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Re: Classic English Rifle Stock Style - Opinions Needed [Re: Dumprat]
      #249843 - 02/07/14 03:26 PM

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Re: Classic English Rifle Stock Style - Opinions Needed [Re: Dumprat]
      #249844 - 02/07/14 04:22 PM

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Have to wonder why nobody else picked up on the fact the xuasa's rifle has the high comb that slopes away from your face under recoil to avoid the "blackout" from the punch in the face of a more traditional stock shape?



Maybe you donīt think what you read...?

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Negative comb angle is better when shooting with scope and big recoil caliber.




I mostly shoot so that my cheeks lower end rests over the cheek piece so scope could be quite high.

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Re: Classic English Rifle Stock Style - Opinions Needed [Re: Nailcreek]
      #249859 - 02/07/14 10:43 PM

Dont get me wrong ,every shooter is different and therefore need slightly different stock dimensions.I am only relaying information I have read and observed on rifles used at close range against rapidly charging targets.As Cooper said in normal hunting circumstances this would never come into play BUT as Cooper comments on an African or Alaskan stopping rifle it most certainly may .Dont take my word for it ,try different stock styles yourself .A stock that can fit you in any scenario is the one to choose.The first time I tried this at Coopers school I was amazed at how difficult to impossible it was to keep the sights on a rapidly charging target with this type of stock ;the more I lowered my rifle barrel the harder it was to keep my head on the sights with the too high straight stock.

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Re: Classic English Rifle Stock Style - Opinions Needed [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #249861 - 02/07/14 11:43 PM

^i find this a little difficult to swallow, when most shotgun stocks don't have nearly that much drop and only the fit and front bead to align sight. Given the groups some people can achieve with slugs and their use as short range stoppers for dangerous situations one has to question the old wisdom of the English stock shape.



And Igorrock you are from Finland it is no surprise you shot European style.


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Re: Classic English Rifle Stock Style - Opinions Needed [Re: Dumprat]
      #249862 - 03/07/14 12:33 AM

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^i find this a little difficult to swallow, when most shotgun stocks don't have nearly that much drop and only the fit and front bead to align sight. Given the groups some people can achieve with slugs and their use as short range stoppers for dangerous situations one has to question the old wisdom of the English stock shape.



And Igorrock you are from Finland it is no surprise you shot European style.


Field shotguns have a lot of drop in their stocks as do British style Mauser sporters ?? My 275 Rigby has about 2" of drop in the heel from the centerline of the bore ; for me perfect.

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Re: Classic English Rifle Stock Style - Opinions Needed [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #249879 - 03/07/14 08:31 AM

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The first time I tried this at Coopers school I was amazed at how difficult to impossible it was to keep the sights on a rapidly charging target with this type of stock ;the more I lowered my rifle barrel the harder it was to keep my head on the sights with the too high straight stock. /quote]

This is the reason that some authorities advocate going down on one knee when facing a charge. This makes it unnecessary to lower the rifle barrel as the charging animal approaches and gives the animal a smaller target to charge at. It is also a steadier platform to shoot from.

Of course, with a charging elephant the problem is reversed: the point of aim is constantly changing in an upward direction.

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