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Ripp Hello, thank you very much've become those 63 centimeters to inches; and is 24.8 inches. Thank you very much, hopefully soon you can put a photo viewer and a place with some trophy even a doe. What matters is the act of hunting.

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Correct me if I am wrong but the old style long barrel was for early slow burning powder correct?

I remember reading an article where they cut a rifle barrel shorter and shorter and shoot it between cuts to watch muzzle velocity. Just don't remember where I read it....

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I guess the longer the better burnt gunpowder barrel, but my concern was whether to 24.8 inches could expect maximum performance 300 Winchester Magnum cartridge.


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Correct me if I am wrong but the old style long barrel was for early slow burning powder correct?

I remember reading an article where they cut a rifle barrel shorter and shorter and shoot it between cuts to watch muzzle velocity. Just don't remember where I read it....

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Jim Bell did it with a barrel on a 7mm-08 having been a long time user of the 7mm-308, the wildcat before Remington brought out the 7mm-08 as a factory cartridge. I recall Jim starting with a 29" barrel and cutting it back an 1" or so at a time. Even with the 7mm-08 using faster powders, the longer barrel lengths produced more velocity.

I personally feel that there is not much point in using a magnum cartridge unless you are going to wring out the best ballistics you can. Take the 7mm Remington Magnum, many decry the fact that they struggle to better a 7mm-06 or 280 Rem (the same cartridges really) or even better the 7mm-08 by much, and struggle to get to 3000fps with the 160gr bullet. Problem is that as a poster here has said, the Americans pretty well standardise on a 24" for everything. The magnums burn slow powder and a 26" barrel gives the best between handiness and a tube that will burn the slower powders giving top velocity.

I could easily get an honest 3000fps with a 160gr projectile from my 26" barreled Schultz and Larsen 7x61 (belted 7mm magnum)and the factory rounds with the same weight of bullet went close to their advertised 3100fps. I could get 2900fps out of my 24" barreled 7mm-08 but only with a 140gr and I can hit the 3000fps mark with my 6.5-06 in a 24" barrel but again only with a 140gr.
The 7x61 and its 26" tube ruled supreme with any combination.

For long range shooting at game where the magnums can shine, a 26" barrel is definitely an advantage. For those that say only a 24" is needed then why not go 22", 20" 18", there will always be someone who defends a shorter and shorter barrel and maybe for other reasons such as lightness, handiness in vehicles or the bush, but when it comes to velocity in any given barrel with the best powder for that cartridge, longer barrel length does count.

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Remember reading in a mag once when the 7STW first come out..they tested it by also cutting the barrel back 1" at a time starting with I believe a 30" barrel..at that time they stated the ideal length would have been around 28"..but in my opinion, that it too long to be stalking the mtns with..I personally like a 26" as you stated on magnums...and 24 or even shorter on non-mag. stalking rifles..have a 416 Rem with a 22" for closer work in Africa..its a heavier contour and really handles well..

Ripp

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Hi Eagle, I really want the rifle for use in stalking mode, but is rare in Spain shoot higher than 350-400 meters (382-437 yards) so I think that with the distances barrel length has I have this rifle well enough to get the cartridge firing.

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42" that would be one long bolt action!

Perhaps Daryl could you explain to these fellows why you used the short barrels when guiding?

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The 42" was on my flinter. Subtract 8" and that would be about equivalent for a bolt gun - ie: bolt gun with 34" bl. would be same length as my flinter with a 42" bl. Long, yes - too long, for a modern rifle - yes - HA!. Hawkeye didn't have any trouble with a 42" bl. and neither did I, even though I wasn't raised by Mohicans.

At the ranges I needed to shoot while guiding, I did not need the real or perceived advantage of a long barrel.

For hunting, I still prefer the 25" or 26" bls. on bolt guns. They please me.

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