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BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's
#248874 - 12/06/14 07:09 PM

Have just bought this with the intention of making a sporting rifle in the Lee Speed style.

Have bought this blank to stock it with

The intention is to have it look like this one

I will get the picture blown up till I get 13 3/8 L O P so I will have the correct pattern to work from but wonder what are you using for the steel butt plate.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#248875 - 12/06/14 07:25 PM

Hi Von Gruff,

That will look great when finished... Thank God for scaling printers...

Good luck with the project.

Cheers Mate,

Jeff Gray

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
#248957 - 14/06/14 08:39 AM

The blank arrived this morning, so the first thing was to plane and sand out the pattern marked on it.

I ordered this from track of the wolf so it should be here in a couple of weeks.http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partdetail.aspx/671/1/BP-SHOT-C-2-I

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249262 - 20/06/14 05:37 PM

There had been a lobbing sight that was missing and I found that I wasn't able to see the open sights clearly enough to contemplate using them and not wanting to (spend money) use an off the shelf aperture, I decided to make one. If I came across a bolt mounted unit I may change but for now this will work handily.
First I needed a fitted backing washer to bring the lobbing sight recess out level with the wrist

An alloy pattern and a length of steel came next

The top of an old jack supplied something to hold the aperture and an un-used ruger ring knurled knob would become the aperture itself.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249263 - 20/06/14 05:41 PM

I drew my pattern onto the stock blank

And cut the blank into the two halves.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249346 - 23/06/14 03:22 PM

Butt socket fitted and almost into the forestock. I have used a piece of jarah for the forend tip and the gripcap. A friend gave me a couple of posts of it so there is a little personal in it for me.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249347 - 23/06/14 04:32 PM

A bit of Aussie wood in there VG.. Shows you are a dedicated fella doing that job something this mere mortal wouldnt even attempt.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: gryphon]
#249360 - 24/06/14 12:22 AM

That is looking really good!
Lee Speeds have some interesting consistencies as far as stock layout.
For example, if you draw a straight line from the heel along the comb, it crosses right through the bolt knob, crosses the bottom of the forend at the forend tip seam and terminates right at the muzzle. I don't know if this is by design, but it sure makes a sleek looking rifle and to my eye dictates a good choice for barrel length.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Huvius]
#249469 - 25/06/14 03:36 PM

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Lee Speeds have some interesting consistencies as far as stock layout.
For example, if you draw a straight line from the heel along the comb, it crosses right through the bolt knob, crosses the bottom of the forend at the forend tip seam and terminates right at the muzzle. "end quote"

Now that is interesting and of course you know I will check that out when I get it to a stage that all the relevant bits are in place.

Finished the gross inletting of the b/a and will refine when shaping is underway. Fitted the butt plate with a 3/16 cast.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249558 - 26/06/14 04:59 PM

Trigger guard and mag well attended to today. Tomorrow the shaping will start.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249609 - 27/06/14 01:04 PM

Have got the gross shaping of the butstock done and will leave it for the day. Will come back with a fresh pair of eyes and hands.

First thing today was to reinforce the rear of the forestock which is often done with a brass pin through the stock but I wanted the strength without the visible rod end so made a series of holes with a undersize drill bit, cleaned it out and with sawdust to stain the epoxy a bit tapped the threaded stem into the cut out so that the threads actually bit into the wood.

Put that away into a warm place to mature for a day or two (our winter so the shed is to cold for glues/epoxies)

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249610 - 27/06/14 01:07 PM

The butt stock was planed on one side to even up the excess mandated by the cast in the stock

Then the carefull start and stop on the bench planer to taper in for the wrist to the grip cap and down to the butt cap outline

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249611 - 27/06/14 01:10 PM

Then it was patience with rasps then files to bring some shape to it

And the "tools"

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249689 - 29/06/14 01:46 PM

Today play has seen it all shaped up down to sanding stage

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249693 - 29/06/14 07:12 PM

Nice work well done, my hat is off to you, I have had a Hell of a job just fitting preshaped stocks to my Buggers, I fitted Buffalo forend tips to mine & wish I had power tools, I did just get a checking file to do my cut file rib & sights, works a treat !!

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Sarg]
#249694 - 29/06/14 07:38 PM

Thanks Sarg, I have noted a number of yours in this section and took your barrel sling eye pics as pattern for doing one for myself and another for a friends Lee Speed.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249737 - 30/06/14 01:40 PM

Got everything sanded down through 150 and 240grit after a little re-shaping of forend tip and gripcap area. Slimmed the wrist and the forend fo a really nice slim fast handling feel.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249747 - 30/06/14 06:46 PM

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Thanks Sarg, I have noted a number of yours in this section and took your barrel sling eye pics as pattern for doing one for myself and another for a friends Lee Speed.

That's funny I'm the one who is normally flogging pics & ideas off the forum, so it is good that some one got some thing back, Cheers !

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Sarg]
#249792 - 01/07/14 03:00 PM

Today was a slow day with another 'go over' with the 240grit and a wetting down to whisker it the first time. Will go to 360 grit tomorrow, whisker again then go to 600 grit before the first 50/50 tung oil/ vegetable turps soaking.
Not the best light but a little colour starting to show itself.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249795 - 01/07/14 08:23 PM

It seems you are keeping the lines of the rifle very true to the original Lee Speed stock design. Good on you !

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
#249796 - 01/07/14 08:49 PM

Nice!!

Will you checker?

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
#249797 - 01/07/14 08:51 PM

Von Gruff,
looks bloody amazing mate - keep up the posts, we want to see how this old girls shoots too!
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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: tinker]
#249823 - 02/07/14 07:22 AM

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Nice!!

Will you checker?

Would like to but checkering is one of the (many) things I haven't tried yet, but I might have a crack at it at some stage as it would put the finishing touches to it. I really like the traditional style and pattern but have taken a liking to flat top and may need time to decide on this one

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
#249867 - 03/07/14 02:19 AM

Keep up. Looks perfect.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: rigbymauser]
#249886 - 03/07/14 11:36 AM

Today saw the sanding off of the 360 grit whiskering, re-wetting it and sanding again with 360, then wetting and sanding with 600 grit. I left it for an hour after each wetting before sanding but there was progressively less whisker standing until there was almost none at the final wetting.
Next step has been to start the flooding process where I kept as much 50/50 (tung/veg turps) flooded onto the surface for about an hour till it showed it was slowing on the uptake into the wood. Then I rubbed it down hard with a cloth so there was nothing on the surface. Will do more flooding tomorrow, then sand back to the surface before filling the grain.

You can see where there is dry wood on a couple of places.

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