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Deutsche_Vortrekker
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A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)????
      #246329 - 24/04/14 10:26 AM

I was out on my daily 5 mile run today and I passed a garage sale. Normally I just run by these things but today something caught my eye. It was an old #4 Enfield rifle with no wood in a sorry state ,covered in grime no blueing but very little rust .I couldn't even see the bore but under that grime I spotted a Nitro Crown N stamp and decided to take a chance for $25 US dollars. Well I got it home and cleaned the bore and it was mint! Barrel has ben shortened to 22 + inches (with a hack saw) but that is ok. Has a BW stamp on barrel and receiver and my buddy who is a Brit Enfield guru said the rifle came from the Black Watch in Kenya. As I am not an expert I am posting pictures for opinions .I plan to restore (or convert ) this rifle to a classic Lee Speed style sporter with a classic scope . A lot of work to do ....now to find some wood .just rummaged through the box of parts that came with the rifle ..3 magazines and one is a 5 rounder



Edited by Deutsche_Vortrekker (24/04/14 11:04 AM)

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #246339 - 24/04/14 03:34 PM

starting a new project is like spring when flowers and sun makes you happy again...

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: lancaster]
      #246342 - 24/04/14 04:06 PM

Cool!

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: tinker]
      #246346 - 24/04/14 05:19 PM

Looking foward to following the build, sir!

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Ash]
      #246392 - 25/04/14 04:15 AM

I love history and I find it fascinating that this rifle once possible hunted Mau Mau with the soldiers of the Black Watch in Kenya. Hopefully I can do the old warrior justice with a Lee Speed style sporter restoration.

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #246448 - 25/04/14 09:44 PM

Started looking for some Lee Speed type wood out there .Was actually shocked to see the lack of custom wood for the British Lee Enfield rifles. Don't people realize what great rifles they are?

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #246449 - 25/04/14 11:17 PM

Most people would see your find as something to be cobbled together into a beater rifle at best.
If its not the latest wizbang magnum wrapped up in stainless and tupperware most of todays hunters do not see the potential in a project such as yours.
Classic styles of rifles takes a special person to appreciate.
Good luck on this journey and keep us updated with your progress.

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #246453 - 26/04/14 12:09 AM

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Most people would see your find as something to be cobbled together into a beater rifle at best.
If its not the latest wizbang magnum wrapped up in stainless and tupperware most of todays hunters do not see the potential in a project such as yours.
Classic styles of rifles takes a special person to appreciate.
Good luck on this journey and keep us updated with your progress.


Well my Sako Mosin sporter project (worlds greatest mosin thread) is on temporary hold as I am waiting for my custom low bolt handle to be finished. Last night watching NHL Hockey I started to hand polish the action but a long way to go .Also fitted a discreet scope base in rear stripper clip area (see picture) and will add another to front receiver ring to accommodate Talley double lever rings. I want to keep the rear long range sight which is quite excellent but will also add short range express sights to the rifle. I believe NECG makes a British type front sight also.What I really need is Lee Speed type wood and cant really find a supplier of this pattern.

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #246465 - 26/04/14 01:52 AM

DV,
Macon Gunstocks show precarved #4 Enfield sporter stocks on thier website.
Cecil Fredi has very nice 2 piece stock blanks also.

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #246480 - 26/04/14 09:57 AM

While I prefer the MLM, MLE, or even SMLE action over the No4 I found this rifle the other day & while it was roughly done it felt great & light in the hand, in 303/243 !

So yes you could do some thing nice on that action to.

I may do a Mannlicher type my self yet, I even have a 405 short in the works & have two barrels rebored to 375 one on the light No 3 SMLE barrel !

Seemed to look nicer in the flesh









Some of the stocks I'm using, unfortunately the man who made these has passed away & a chap in Tassie may be doing them now !



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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Sarg]
      #246486 - 26/04/14 12:06 PM

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While I prefer the MLM, MLE, or even SMLE action over the No4 I found this rifle the other day & while it was roughly done it felt great & light in the hand, in 303/243 !

So yes you could do some thing nice on that action to.

I may do a Mannlicher type my self yet, I even have a 405 short in the works & have two barrels rebored to 375 one on the light No 3 SMLE barrel !

Seemed to look nicer in the flesh









Some of the stocks I'm using, unfortunately the man who made these has passed away & a chap in Tassie may be doing them now !




Sarg nice rifle and stocks. The design I will be looking for is similar to the bottom stock which is quite similar to my Lee Speed which fits me quite well .Any line on something like this will be appreciated

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #246827 - 02/05/14 01:18 AM

Polishing the action and eliminating all tool marks on raceway is going well ;about 75% completed. When I first acquired this action it was nearly impossible to work the bolt in the action due to minor rust and corrosion. Now the bolt works with slickery speed. Trigger pull is excellent with zero creep : I had nothing to do with this ,I just lucked out. Boyds apparently has extra fancy Claro Walnut stocks for this rifle in a classic design .Took a chance and ordered one and I will have to wait to see how it looks. Good feeling making something out of what some would term a pile of scrap.

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #246829 - 02/05/14 04:52 AM

I like the second and third stocks, myself - no cheek pieces.

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #246835 - 02/05/14 10:52 AM

Please make sure that you publish pictures of the Lee Speed / Classic stock from Boyds as I have seen them advertised but yet to see how they look in the flesh.

Also do they come with checkering? Maybe this is something that you can order as an addition or have done after purchase.

Finally please post any inletting / bedding issues that you may / may not encounter with this stock.

Thanks.

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Michael]
      #246837 - 02/05/14 11:17 AM

I think it is an inletted blank as this is what I want .I do all my stock work and checkering .Read some of the other Nitro Express posts and you can see my work on other projects.

Edited by Deutsche_Vortrekker (02/05/14 11:23 AM)

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #246839 - 02/05/14 11:44 AM

WOW!!!.......If that's your previous work then this project is going to be a good one to follow.

Thanks.

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Re: A Lee Speed ( with a bit of work)???? [Re: Michael]
      #246842 - 02/05/14 11:59 AM

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WOW!!!.......If that's your previous work then this project is going to be a good one to follow.

Thanks.

Thanks Michael ,I try to keep all the Forum members up on my projects as they do with theirs. Information is a much valued thing and all of my knowledge has been learned from others

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