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Hemihead
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1959 MC .270
      #245068 - 05/04/14 11:51 AM

This one followed me home.A 1959 MC with a 1956 stock.Is it common for an MC to have a 1956 stock?It also has a Pecar scope in Steyr mounts. [image][/image] [image][/image]

Edited by Hemihead (06/04/14 02:00 AM)

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Rule303
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Re: 1959 MC .270 [Re: Hemihead]
      #245116 - 06/04/14 07:48 AM

That is a nice looking rifle. Normaly the full Montecarlo style stocks leave me cold but that one seems to work.

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Re: 1959 MC .270 [Re: Rule303]
      #245117 - 06/04/14 07:51 AM

The cheek piece reminds me of a saddle flap.

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Hemihead
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Re: 1959 MC .270 [Re: gryphon]
      #245123 - 06/04/14 08:37 AM

Don't like the 1956 stock's myself,but the rifle is in excellent condition.

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Re: 1959 MC .270 [Re: Hemihead]
      #245196 - 07/04/14 07:02 PM

I have one identical - also marked 1959. Here's a few things I learned about it from the gunsmith who refinished it, not that yours seems to need any attention in this respect :-)

The un-blued extractor, the straw brown part, has either been expertly refinished or is original. Most of them get refinished in blue, unless they're removed and often they break if they are. The un-blued raceway where the left-hand bolt lug passes also points to it being not being re-blued. They can be "washed out" when they are re-blued to prevent this, if the person doing it thinks about it.

My .270 when it was reloaded produced some quite disappointing velocities, several hundred feet slow in all loads. It might be down to some factor, like throat erosion or it could be due to long throating. What I do know is that it will perform like a new one if I use W760 power and 130 grain bullets with published data, (no over-loads). In fact, I have an American Rifleman test done on a factory new, short-barrel, full-stock carbine Mannlicher in .270Win. I think it was a M72. The 130g factory loads chronographed 2,950 fps. Mine are just a bit behind that - but only with W760.

Not much else to say. It's accurate Looks great and the Monte Carlo works well with iron sights.
Enjoy your nice rifle.

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Re: 1959 MC .270 [Re: Kiwi_bloke]
      #245205 - 08/04/14 12:45 AM

Kiwi bloke - Ed Matunas did quite an extensive article on .270s many years ago. He used 5 or 6 different rifles in his test and found our exactly what you are referring to - very much sub-standard speeds - but usually only with 130gr bullets and only in some rifles.

He found velocities from 2,740fps up to 3,150fps with the factory ammo & all in factory rifles with 22" bls. - and with a variety of 130gr. ammo at that. WW, Fed. or RP (1 of them) told him they hated loading 130gr. due to this wide range of speeds form seemingly normal rifles and Ed noted that might be why some people swear by the .270 and others swear at it. (I like to sear at it, but I've never had one - HA! Elmer taught me to do that - maybe the one he tried produced sub-standard ballistics?- or maybe it was just Jack O?

Ed found loading 150gr. in factory or with handloads eliminated this "slow trend" of some rifles & brought them all up to standard speeds and suggested those shooters with slow .270's use 150gr. bullets instead of the 130's.

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sparks1
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Re: 1959 MC .270 [Re: DarylS]
      #245225 - 08/04/14 10:09 AM

Daryl S....nice to know. I have acquired two boxes of 150gr Winchester Silvertips for my .270. These are the ones I am going to try first. Price was right....$15.00 for 200 bullets.

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Kiwi_bloke
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Re: 1959 MC .270 [Re: sparks1]
      #245229 - 08/04/14 12:45 PM

Thanks Daryl. Good point. This barrel is just 20" long, so exacerbates that further.

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