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8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it?
      #243244 - 04/03/14 03:48 PM



A Johan Fanzoj, Ferlach, "Kipplauf" chambered in 8,5x68.

A new cartridge to me, the 8.5x68 mm.

What do people know about it?

Is it based on the 8x68S case as I suspect, or the 10.75x68 case? Or something completely different?

Ballistics?

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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: NitroX]
      #243245 - 04/03/14 05:53 PM

must be made with the 8x68 case, new to me also
BTW, its 8x68 not 8x68S because there was never a 8x68 I version but its true that it have the S caliber so not realy wrong

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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: lancaster]
      #243250 - 04/03/14 08:07 PM

Here is C.I.P -table of 8,5x68 Fanzoj:

http://www.cip-bobp.org/homologation/uploads/tdcc/tab-i/8-5-x-68-fanzoj-en.pdf

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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: Igorrock]
      #243264 - 05/03/14 04:14 AM

Hi Lancaster

your reasoning is correct however I see everybody writes the "S",
including the old 1940 RWS handbook, the DN / RWS "blue reloading handbook" and CIP tables.


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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: fuhrmann]
      #243296 - 05/03/14 04:39 PM

Fair enough re the S in 8x68S and it perhaps not really being correct. But you will have to excuse me continuing to use it as the cartridges name as 99% of people that write and read about the cartridge seem to use it and so it avoids confusion.

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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: NitroX]
      #330720 - 31/07/19 04:03 AM

Reviving this thread to see if there have been any more comments.

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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: NitroX]
      #330722 - 31/07/19 04:33 AM

sorry to say it but in the end it will be forgotten like all the other semi wildcats and only be interesting for cartridge collectors. for maybe 50 years now people necking up and necking down factory brass and believe anyone need it.
no, nobody realy need this and especially in europe the .338/8,5 mm caliber will never make it.

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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: lancaster]
      #331063 - 12/08/19 01:25 PM

Just a way for a company to put its name on a cartridge I guess..? Most are, like wildcats.

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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: Ash]
      #331077 - 13/08/19 01:25 AM

There are two ctgs. with the "S" behind them. (maybe more)
In this discussion, I've read the "S" behind 8x58 stands for the groove diameter of .323".
In the 6.5x68S, the "S" stands for Schuler.

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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: DarylS]
      #331084 - 13/08/19 04:58 AM

just a correction, I believe you mean the 8x57IS?
there are two 8x58 and either rimmed
8x58R S&S - double S means Sauer&Sohn, .318 or I Kaliber

8x58RD - D means Denmark, .324 but like .323 S caliber bullets

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Re: 8.5x68 Fanzoj - what do you know about it? [Re: DarylS]
      #331111 - 13/08/19 04:15 PM

Daryl

here in Europe there never was an "S" behind the 6,5x68.
The "S" nowadays is practically reserved to denote the .323 caliber, and that is complicated enough.
8x68S and 6,5x68 are described to have been developed by RWS in the late 1930s. The Schüler company was not involved.

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