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Does Being a Guided Hunter Make You Less of a Hunter?
      #241235 - 27/01/14 01:25 AM



Does Being a Guided Hunter Make You Less of a Hunter?
Huntress Livy Jan 21, 2014, 1:15 AM EST

There has been criticism amongst hunters who consider themselves better because they don’t have to rely upon a guide to hunt.

Being self-sufficient says a lot about a hunter. He obviously knows where to go, what to look for, how to anticipate, how to kill, track, clean an animal and pack him out. This takes a tremendous amount of skill of which is likely learned from a father figure who dedicated time sharing his abilities with his child(ren). Additionally, hunting skills become sharpened through trial and error, success and failure. Especially if a self-guided hunter spends each season in the same area it’ll allow him to anticipate animal movement, the best way to approach and close the distance and ultimately understand the dynamics of his favorite hunting region.

But there are those who didn’t grow up with mentors teaching them how to hunt; consequently, they’ve relied upon a guide to educate them. Where there may have been an innate desire to hunt, maybe they lacked territory to master the art of pursuit and had to hire an outfitting service to put them where the animals were.

Like a child with a grandfather who’d spend his free moments teaching little Billy everything he knew about hunting, the guided hunter (who’s likely much older in life that he can afford a guide) learns from his guide so that he too can become a better hunter. If the guided hunter really has the desire to learn and understand the outdoors, he’ll watch every move, ask a million questions, and mimic everything he’s learned until he can apply his newfound skills on his own hunts.

So shall we belittle the person who didn’t have a mom to take her into the great outdoors and teach her how to be the best huntress, or embrace, support and encourage her instead?

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Re: Does Being a Guided Hunter Make You Less of a Hunter? [Re: NitroX]
      #241242 - 27/01/14 03:00 AM

From personal experience, I can say without reservation, that being a guided hunter made me a better hunter and, a better person. The knowledge that a professional guide can impart is incalculable. I've learned so much, not just about hunting techniques, but also about the flora, fauna, geography, game identification, tracking, trophy judgment, traditions, tactics, rifles, bullets, shot placement, skinning, ethics, history, survival, first aid, engine repair, politics, and the list goes on and on.

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Re: Does Being a Guided Hunter Make You Less of a Hunter? [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #241252 - 27/01/14 05:36 AM

We've always encouraged our hunters to "be involved" when we're hunting, from teaching them to shot placement, some shooting training/shot placement talk in camp if necessary, to calling game, to the processing that happens after the animal is down.

Bottom left chap, is the hunter who shot this moose.



Same chap, top left.




The acquisition of knowledge is an ongoing fact when hunting. Many of the guides I know take a lot of delight in a hunter who desires to learn and thus the guide goes out of his way to teach.

Some hunters merely want to be led around by the hand - there are good and bad in all sports.

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Re: Does Being a Guided Hunter Make You Less of a Hunter? [Re: DarylS]
      #241254 - 27/01/14 06:14 AM

The point is well taken. I believe that one can learn much from a more experience hunter and/or guide, especially with regards to hunting methods for particular species and in particular environs. I also believe that while on a guided hunt the hunter is playing more the role of trigger puller than of actual hunter. After all, the guide gets you there, finds the game, and will even point out the best or proper animal to shoot. There have been times I used a guide and times I hunted on my own. But I have always done better on my own if I was hunting for something for which I had previously been guided.

It is also important to note that sometimes being guided is the only reasonable option because of time constraints, logistics, licenses, or regulations. For example, brown bear in Alaska requires a guide. And, setting up an overseas hunt without an outfitter or guide may require more coordination, paperwork, scouting, and follow-up than you have the time or stomach for.

Nevertheless, will always choose to do the hunt on my own if I can. No guided hunt can substitute for bringing the hard work of one's own scouting, tracking, stalking, and shooting to a successful conclusion. The best trophies are always the ones I earned myself.

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Re: Does Being a Guided Hunter Make You Less of a Hunter? [Re: Grenadier]
      #241303 - 27/01/14 11:32 PM

Not all of us are lucky enough to have a parent/grandparent or any other family member for that matter, that are keen hunters. My father although a successful cattleman and one of the best bushmen, was not the slightest bit interested in hunting and my grandfather passed away when I was seven and again was not interested in hunting. Although both were reasonable shots and were more than capable of disposing of any dingo or wild pig that was silly enough to cross their paths, I would not regard either of them as Hunters as such. I regard myself as a good hunter for the species and country I am familiar with. But I freely admit that I prefer to hunt with a guide as I am time poor. Especially when it comes to hunting overseas or for a game animal or an area that I am unfamiliar with. I feel by hunting with a guide I have more than a better chance of having a successful hunt than if I was to attempt the same venture on my own. A friend of mine responded to me informing him of an upcoming deer hunt in horror as to what I was being charged for a five day hunt at Charters Towers North Queensland in pursuit of a Chital stag. He claimed that I was being ripped off. My response was anybody could travel to Charters Towers but not everybody had access to a property to hunt on, knew the location of the best stags and could provide accommodation, good company and good food and at least guarantee me that I wouldn't come home empty handed and as it turned out it is an adventure that my son and I will never forget and we have made a new friendship in the process and remember these times fondly and with more than the occasional smile. I have also hunted Buffalo in the Northern Territory with a great guide that put me on to a bull that I could of only dreamt of, so my vote goes well and truly for guided hunts. And yes I would be proud and honoured to hunt with both of these guides again, anytime, anywhere and more than happy to pay them for their time.
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