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Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler!
      #238622 - 03/12/13 07:32 PM

G'Day Fella's,

As above, I hear Nosler has come out with a new 6.5mm cartridge, that fits in a .30-06 length action!

Edited by Homer; Apparently, it is the worlds most powerful 6.5mm cartridge!
That makes it more than the .264Win Mag and the 6.5x68 etc......

Doh!
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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: Homer]
      #238626 - 03/12/13 09:41 PM

Parent case?

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: NitroX]
      #238627 - 03/12/13 10:15 PM

G'Day John,

Other than it being a Rimless Case, apparently Nosler are going to hold us all in suspense on that one!
Also, it runs a 129grn Nosler A/Bond at 3400fps, from a 26" barrel!!!

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: Homer]
      #238628 - 03/12/13 10:20 PM

Parent case, probably the 375 Ruger case. For ballistics refer to the 6.5x68 Schuler

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: tophet1]
      #238629 - 03/12/13 10:43 PM


Interesting.

What are people's thoughts ?

Long Range varmint / small deer cartridge ?

Does it fill a void ?

Or is it just another marketing ploy ?


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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: 500Nitro]
      #238632 - 03/12/13 11:18 PM

Can´t see it will do anything the .25-06 will, best

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #238635 - 03/12/13 11:47 PM

Probably a big fat short flat sided case ... I don't need another 6.5 having too many already - 4!

But I do want another one, but not a new big fat short flat sided one.

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #238636 - 03/12/13 11:47 PM


That's what I was thinking.


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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: 500Nitro]
      #238644 - 04/12/13 01:57 AM

Quote:


Interesting.

What are people's thoughts ?




No real interest to me, I have used a few 6.5's (.260. 6.5swede, 6.5x284) to some very

extended ranges and velocity has never been the issue, all start over 3000fps with heavy bullets and all hit at very, very long hunting ranges with more than enough velocity for bullet performance.


Quote:


Long Range varmint / small deer cartridge ?




Quite large deer as well, as most any antelope to the "elk" size.


Quote:


Does it fill a void ?

Or is it just another marketing ploy ?




Surely it fills a void, The great American marketing "my dick is bigger than yours" void............:):):):)

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: Caprivi]
      #238646 - 04/12/13 02:25 AM


Interesting.

"Quite large deer as well, as most any antelope
to the "elk" size."

I must admit I do suffer from Calibre creep - upwards -
and forget a 30.06 is a big calibre for most animals !!!


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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: tophet1]
      #238652 - 04/12/13 05:17 AM

Quote:

Parent case, probably the 375 Ruger case. For ballistics refer to the 6.5x68 Schuler




There are 3 contenders for parent case ...
1. 375Ruger. (Nosler now offers brass). Using QL, the speeds aren't quite there with this case.
2. A shortened 300RUM or extended RSAUM ... Nosler offers all RUM brass. This would allow an entire family of cases unique to Nosler upto 45cal if they wanted and they'd fit all actions. If Nosler goes this way, I'll be buying a reamer post haste as any 7mmRemMag or 338WinMag will rechamber to equivalents of the 7mmSTW and 340Wby with absolute ease.
3. Nosler again goes absolutely unique and uses the 338NormaMagnum as parent case. Both companies work closely together.
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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: 500Nitro]
      #238653 - 04/12/13 05:20 AM

The 6.5's, with good bullets, all work well on moose and elk as well as the smaller species of cloven hoof ungulates.
Doesn't matter if it's a 6.5x54, 6.5 Swede, or one of the larger ones- they all work well.

For one, I do not condone long range shooting at big game animals due to problems with accuracy potential, wind & direction as well as game movement before impact. There are a myriad of unforeseen problems that can arise before or after the discharge of the rifle.

That is a personal belief and one I will not change. Within what I consider normal and long range, say out to 300yards (for those who actually practice out to that range(few and far between), any of the mentioned 6.5's will work just fine on the species noted.

I feel anything over a 60gr. case in .264 calibre to be larger than I'd want. 60gr. capacity would allow an improved short neck 6.5x57 or 6.5x.284. The one I put together for my daughter, with a 26" bl., would make 3,308fps with a 120gr. XLC bullet and shoot into 1/2" with those, at that speed. The ctg. made within 50fps of my 22" factory Winchester .264Mag, which required 20gr. MORE powder just to match my little round's speed with those bullets.

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: DarylS]
      #238661 - 04/12/13 06:47 AM

Quote:

The ctg. made within 50fps of my 22" factory Winchester .264Mag, which required 20gr. MORE powder just to match my little round's speed with those bullets.




The barrel is four inches too short.

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: NitroX]
      #238665 - 04/12/13 07:25 AM

I have built a lot of different 6.5s for various customers over the years. All were just fine, but none worked the miracles that the customers thought they would. 260 Rems. 6.5X55s 6.5X284s, 6.5 Ackey Improved, 6.5-06s and 264 Win mags. (Of them all I still prefer the old 6.5 Swede to the rest.)

In fact I have yet to see a cartridge under 30 caliber that impresses me more than the old standard 270 Winchester when it has a 24-25 inch barrel.

But I will build what my customers like. It's their call.


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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: szihn]
      #238670 - 04/12/13 08:52 AM

I read this article quite a few months ago and was in for a surprise re the performance figure`s for this 6.5.


http://www.shootingtimes.com/2013/05/13/hot-off-the-press-shooting-the-264-winchester-magnum/

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: gryphon]
      #238676 - 04/12/13 12:40 PM

Can't say this one interests me. A "new" 6.5 that does though is the 6.5 SAUM that GA Precision is chambering. George is claiming an accurate barrel life of over 2400 rounds. Lots of info here in including some about a new Bushnell LR hunting scope GA is involved with:

http://forum.snipershide.com/snipers-hid...r-6-5-saum.html

http://forum.snipershide.com/snipers-hid...ting-scope.html

Edited by SharpsNitro (04/12/13 12:41 PM)


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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: SharpsNitro]
      #238680 - 04/12/13 01:03 PM

there isnt anything new in the figures from what I see V the nosler...what we need is for someone to whack a 6.5 pill in a 416 Rigby or something!


140 at 3176
130 at shy 3300

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: gryphon]
      #238682 - 04/12/13 01:18 PM


I know someone who whacked a 6.5 in a 10.75 x 68.


The way things are today, it is just another way
of skinning a cat and not too much can be added
that makes it vastly different from anything else
available previously.

I would say that maybe the WSM and 375 Ruger cases
were the last big innovation ?



Edited by 500Nitro (04/12/13 01:20 PM)


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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: gryphon]
      #238683 - 04/12/13 01:30 PM

Quote:

there isnt anything new in the figures from what I see V the nosler...what we need is for someone to whack a 6.5 pill in a 416 Rigby or something!


140 at 3176
130 at shy 3300




I think this has been done, or close to it, scroll to the bottom:

http://www.lapua.com/en/story-of--338-lapua-magnum.html


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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: SharpsNitro]
      #238685 - 04/12/13 03:06 PM

SharpsNitro you are spot on there. As per below its a beast.




High velocity 6.5 mm

Among the wildcat versions of the .338 Lapua Magnum, the 6.5-338 Lapua remains possible the as the fastest. Originally designed in Finland, it has to be one of the highest velocity cartridges in this bore size.

The 6.5-338 is necked down from the .338 Lapua Magnum case to the 6.5 mm (.264 caliber) bullet. The shoulders are pushed back somewhat, and the body taper is reduced by fireforming. In its finished form, the case body is almost cylindrical. The final case capacity is slightly greater than that of the parent 338 Lapua Magnum.

Ballistic performance is impressive, to say the least! With top loads, a 9 g (139 grs) Scenar HPBT bullet will leave muzzle at an incredible 1150 mps (3780 fps). By comparison, the 6.5-284 will shoot that same bullet with about 930 mps (3050 fps) muzzle velocity.

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: gryphon]
      #238688 - 04/12/13 04:43 PM

I like my Savage LRP in 260, very low muzzle report with full load of 4831, 2850 fps. Pretty heavy for hunting though. Shoot very good at 400 with 140 Amax and 142 SMK. Does well hunting with 140 SSTs or Sierra BTSP.
I know my 6.5 Swede will drive a 140 Speer flat base through a Whitetail end to end at 300+ (doing guide stuff, kill the wounded deer). The 1937 Husky converted military would shoot into 5/8 or so at 100 with the 140 gr Speer.
Friend has shot elk with a 6.5 Mannlicher and a 120 gr with good results. Probably more than one.
Light recoil, low noise signature and good killing power. Whats not to like?


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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: Dphariss]
      #238698 - 05/12/13 03:34 AM

Quote:

I like my Savage LRP in 260, very low muzzle report with full load of 4831, 2850 fps. Pretty heavy for hunting though. Shoot very good at 400 with 140 Amax and 142 SMK. Does well hunting with 140 SSTs or Sierra BTSP.
I know my 6.5 Swede will drive a 140 Speer flat base through a Whitetail end to end at 300+ (doing guide stuff, kill the wounded deer). The 1937 Husky converted military would shoot into 5/8 or so at 100 with the 140 gr Speer.
Friend has shot elk with a 6.5 Mannlicher and a 120 gr with good results. Probably more than one.
Light recoil, low noise signature and good killing power. Whats not to like?




Exactly!

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: NitroX]
      #238704 - 05/12/13 05:05 AM

Quote:

Quote:

The ctg. made within 50fps of my 22" factory Winchester .264Mag, which required 20gr. MORE powder just to match my little round's speed with those bullets.




The barrel is four inches too short.




Exactly--not sure why so many think of the .264 W as the redheaded step child..i have used one off and on now for the past 3 years..it hammers deer and elk with authority..took one bull at 440 plus--down for the count with one 140gr Nosler accubond..

I was amused the other day as well looking through the new Nosler reloading manual --in ALL of their loads they show for the 264 W-they are using a 24" barrel..WTH?? are they that incompetent or just that ignorant??? and yet in some calibers where a 26" tube really isnt needed..they use one..wonder sometimes who is in charge to this stuff??

Personally I look forward to a new 6.5-- it is an amazing caliber..

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: Ripp]
      #238709 - 05/12/13 06:34 AM

I do appreciate the 25" bl. on my daughter's .260Rem. - works a treat, as does the 26" on my .375/06IMP.

I do not mind long barrels - my .45 has a 42" and I have no trouble packing my bro's 48" barreled .50 A.Verner on the bush trail shoots. My "short" barreled 14 bore rifle has but a 31" tube.

Yes - the .264 was a waste of powder & steel on the 22" factory Winchester rifle. The first chambering in my daughter's rifle about matched it with only 60gr. capacity compared to the WW round's 85gr. capacity.

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Re: Noslers new 6.5mm/.264" cartridge, the .26 Nosler! [Re: DarylS]
      #238720 - 05/12/13 10:11 AM

Here you go..

Bend, Ore. – November 22, 2013 – Like many shooting enthusiasts, the Nosler family has always dreamed of introducing a new rifle cartridge to the industry; that time is finally here with the arrival of the 26 Nosler®.

The goal of the new 26 Nosler® cartridge was to introduce something to the shooting sports industry that took full advantage of new technology available to shooters including the advance of optics, reticle systems and of course high Ballistic Coefficient (B.C.) bullets such as the AccuBond® Long Range™ line. The old boundaries are about to be pushed to new limits.

The 26 Nosler® cartridge was designed to take advantage of the inherently accurate and high B.C. 6.5mm (.264) caliber bullets, and is capable of shooting the Nosler® 129 grain, AccuBond® Long Range™ bullet at a blazing 3400 fps out of the muzzle. Zeroed at 350 yards, the 26 Nosler® has a Point Blank Range of 0-415 yards. Loaded with the 129gr ABLR, the 26 Nosler® retains as much velocity at 400 yards as the 260 Remington® produces at the muzzle.

The 26 Nosler® case is non-belted, thus headspaced off of the shoulder to further enhance accuracy. The “26” also utilizes a standard (30-06) length action meaning shorter bolt-throw and lighter weight than magnum length actions.

“I really feel the 26 Nosler® has great value amongst the large family of 6.5mm cartridges. With minimal recoil, tremendous velocity, energy and the ability to point and shoot at the intended target up to a quarter mile away, this is the quintessential deer, antelope and long-range target cartridge available on the market today.” –Bob Nosler, CEO/President Nosler, Inc.

The 26 Nosler® is a new and unique cartridge that was submitted to SAAMI® in June, 2013. The formal launch will take place at the 2014 SHOT Show where more exciting news will be released regarding this cartridge. Additional announcements will include Nosler’s new platform rifle, in addition to exciting new bullet, brass and ammunition offerings.

For the most current information on Nosler product announcements, visit Nosler’s Facebook page at www.facebook.com/NoslerInc


http://www.nosler.com/news-and-articles/2013/11/22/the-26-nosler

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