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Ash
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Mannlicher 9.5x56 Takedown For Sale
      #237464 - 04/11/13 07:22 PM

http://usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=25263

Just figured i'd post this here so someone may not miss it if they're after one and frequent the forum!

"Calibre/Item: 9.5x56 MS
Make: Mannlicher Schoenauer
Model: 1910 Take down
Action: Bolt repeater
Scope: Peep sight on bolt
Serial No: 8684
Condition: Good
Price: $2200
Advertised: 4/11/2013
Licence number: 61068
Phone: 03 6344 4985 or 0419 449855
Comment: Take down version. Bolt face confirms minimal use. I rate the bore as 8 out of 10. These are superb rifles. Light to carry and hard hitting. At least 90 years. old Cases can be formed by using 8x57 brass and 50 new cases are included. Some home loaded rounds for local pick-up. Plus freight"





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NitroXAdministrator
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Re: Mannlicher 9.5x56 Takedown For Sale [Re: Ash]
      #237620 - 09/11/13 05:28 PM

How does the 9.5x56 differ from the 9.5x57 case? Sounds the same.

I wonder if this is the same rifle I looked at and considered buying about twelve years ago?

That rifle also had the same peep sight and was also a 9.5mm. Reported at the time as a 9.5x57.

The seller at the time had a 6.5x54 also and was from Tasmania.

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Kiwi_bloke
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Re: Mannlicher 9.5x56 Takedown For Sale [Re: NitroX]
      #237623 - 09/11/13 05:55 PM

Same rifle, sometimes called 9,5x56.5 hence confusion. This one must have been made around 1925.

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Re: Mannlicher 9.5x56 Takedown For Sale [Re: NitroX]
      #237625 - 09/11/13 05:56 PM



Same cartridge. Aka .375 2 1/4"

I've had a couple of them. The nicest was a little Westley Richards.

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Re: Mannlicher 9.5x56 Takedown For Sale [Re: HuntingSchneider]
      #237648 - 10/11/13 12:53 AM

This very topic was discussed in the most recent Mannlicher Collector's Association newsletter (#114). According to an excerpt from African Dangerous Game Cartridges by Pieure van der Walt:

"This is an Austrian cartridge and the Austrians had the silly habit of measuring case length from ahead of the rim, whereas the Germans measured the entire case length. As a consequence many Austrian cartridges are also known by their German designation which denotes the case as being 1mm longer. There is no dimensional difference."


My question for the more experienced out there: While the .375 H&H magnum is often used for brown bear, would the .375 Rimless Nitro Express be appropriate?

How does the round compare to the .30-06?

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Re: Mannlicher 9.5x56 Takedown For Sale [Re: DonZ]
      #238524 - 02/12/13 04:47 AM

Quote:

This very topic was discussed in the most recent Mannlicher Collector's Association newsletter (#114). According to an excerpt from African Dangerous Game Cartridges by Pieure van der Walt:

"This is an Austrian cartridge and the Austrians had the silly habit of measuring case length from ahead of the rim, whereas the Germans measured the entire case length. As a consequence many Austrian cartridges are also known by their German designation which denotes the case as being 1mm longer. There is no dimensional difference."


My question for the more experienced out there: While the .375 H&H magnum is often used for brown bear, would the .375 Rimless Nitro Express be appropriate?

How does the round compare to the .30-06?




DonZ, No one has answered, I don't have any experience with brown bear, but if hunters use .30-06's a 9.5x56 would be superior in performance at a shorter range than a .30-06. Given the use of proper bullet construction. Due to the heavier projectiles.

Years ago most stories had hunters using .270's, .30-06's, .300's etc for bear and they still died back then but the modern trend has been to use heavier rifles.

Regarding how it compares to a .30-06. You can compare the 9.5x56 to a 9.3x62. The 62 is basically a necked up .30-06. The 9.3x62 outperforms the 9.5x56/57 as a result. The 9.5x57 is similar to a necked up 8x57 so a small amount lesser in performance in case capacity. The 9.5x56/57 will have a more arced trajectory to a .30-06 but uses heavier wider calibre bullets. I think it would be fine for most North American game if loaded with suitable projectiles at closer ranges and proper shot placement.

I have no doubt it will work well on moose, deer, and bear at reasonable ranges.

The .375 H&H Mag might be used more often as it is a commercially available cartridge in rifles and loaded ammo. It also is the standard to judge others by and certainly more powerful than a 9.5x57. The .375 H&H Mag has a similar trajectory to a .30-06 as well with bullets of a similar sectional density.


(PS If anyone here WITH bear experience has different opinions please correct me!)

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