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Its a stunt, and sure it can be done

Also read an article by a Idaho gunscribe who proved it could be done, he shot his 5 times over about a mile and was satisfied the 45-70 was a Buff rifle...

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It is a stunt , is an understatement! It is not the best choice, even if it were legal! I wouldn't trade one shot from a 375 H&H rifle for twenty from any 45-70 I own,(I have a ruger No1, and Siamese Mauser, and a S/S double rifle chambered for 45-70) on Cape Buffalo. Simply because it can be done, is no justification for doing it, IMO!!

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Someone mentioned a No. 1 in 45/70, it's my understanding that in a suitably strong action such as a No. 1 the 45/70 can be handloaded to match low end .458 levels.

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One common features of these debates is pro-45/70 advocates quote velocity figures with very hot loads and usually using lighter projectiles, such as a 400 gr bullet vs a 500 grain in the heavier cartridges.

I load down my loads for Africa as the hunting is often done in hot temperatures and I'd rather have reliability than ultra-velocities. Same as for the NT.



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My 2 cents worth, I've never been to Africa and with the world the way it is I doubt I will, so all my knowledge is purely theoretical. Someone mentioned a No. 1 in 45/70, it's my understanding that in a suitably strong action such as a No. 1 the 45/70 can be handloaded to match low end .458 levels. Other than the 1 shot handicap why wouldn't that be acceptable for Buff?

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No disrespect meant, but AGAIN, what about "NOT ENOUGH GUN, AND ILLEGAL" do you not understand!

Handloads are not what the laws are based on, the numbers come from the list of cartridges that are legal. That list is based on the numbers they got from factory ammo manufactures, at the time the rules were written! Asside from that, though I absolutely love the old 45-70, and have owned many, and still own a few, the 45-70 is simply not well suited to the hunting of Cape Buffalo! For those who live in North America, and have only hunted North American game, let me tell you, there is nothing in North America that can be compared to cape buffalo. In that train of thought there are animals in North America, that the 45-70 is marginal for. A cape Buffalo, once he gets his adrenalin up, is about the toughest animal on the face of the Earth, and once he charges nothing on Earth will turn him, except to turn his lights out for good! In that sittuation, I certainly do not want to be armed with a 45-70!

Nobody here, or any place I've seen, has said Cape Buffalo cannot be killed with a 45-70! Certainly they can, and have been ! However, with the very well suited choices available to the client hunter, why would he want to use an illegal, and margenal cartridge, to torture, and poor Cape Buffalo?



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