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ant458
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a good working rifle
#229096 - 21/04/13 04:35 AM

Been thinking of putting a good working type rifle together nothing fancy. Just. A nice reliable strong rifle I'm looking at useing a zastava lk m70 as the base for it I'm going for either the 375 or 416 ruger in a bell & Carlson stock with a 23 inch barrel and. A leapold 1.75 x 6 scope wat do u all think 458 win do u think it would be a good rig

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Iowa_303s
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: ant458]
#229105 - 21/04/13 08:52 AM

ant458'
What do you anticipate is your primary use for this rifle?

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ant458
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: Iowa_303s]
#229108 - 21/04/13 10:13 AM

Cape buffalo And hippo mainly maybe water buffalo I was thinking. It would. Be a good. Heavy. Game. Rifle

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Iowa_303s
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: ant458]
#229110 - 21/04/13 10:29 AM

Ant,
For those uses i understand the caliber choices.
Hopefully those with much experience pursuing those critters will chime in.
The only thing about your options that i would change is the stock. I just do not care for a plastic stock. But that's just me.
Good luck and have fun in this quest.

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ant458
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: ant458]
#229112 - 21/04/13 10:51 AM

Was also thinking of ading a good set of open sights have desided wat type yet any suggestions

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Iowa_303s
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: ant458]
#229114 - 21/04/13 11:26 AM

To me a rifle is not complete without irons.
Even if the primary sight setup is a scope, the irons are an essential back up in case of optic sight failure.

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Caprivi
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: Iowa_303s]
#229116 - 21/04/13 11:31 AM

For the money and for the performance I would be looking at a factory Ruger African in either caliber. There was a few Alaskans as well with 23" barrels.

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ant458
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: Iowa_303s]
#229117 - 21/04/13 11:34 AM

I'm new to building rifles so it will be my first. Try with the help
Of my local gun Smith

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ant458
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: Caprivi]
#229120 - 21/04/13 11:39 AM

I've handled the rugers. Their good solid rifles just wanting
To build my first custom rifle

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blacks
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: ant458]
#229137 - 21/04/13 06:39 PM

Ant,

Sounds like you want to build something similar to what I have as my 'working' big game rifle. Mine is a Mk. X Mauser .458 WM, in a B&C Medallist stock, 24" barrel, with a Leupy VX3 1.5-5x20 heavy duplex in Warne QD's and irons as backup. I like it a lot, might not be a big-dollar rifle but it's rugged and it works.

Cheers

blacks

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ant458
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: blacks]
#229150 - 22/04/13 01:30 AM

That's a great. Looking rifle that's wat I'm going for
I recently got a zastava lk m 70 in 270 win and the more
I use it the more I love it could u tell me wat all went in
To the build I've. Been looking at a zastava action with
a magnum bolt face to use for it

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ozhunter
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: ant458]
#229184 - 22/04/13 11:15 AM

Those new Winchesters in say 416Rem come at an affordable price and it would be hard to fault as a "good working rifle".

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458Win
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: ozhunter]
#229392 - 29/04/13 03:29 AM

Here is a photo of my Zastava M-98 .458 Win that I have been packing for thirty years and one of the new stainless 416 Ruger rifles with a slimmed down Hogue stock. Both are lightweight solid, accurate and dependable rifles.

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Nitro
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: ozhunter]
#229405 - 29/04/13 08:50 AM

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Those new Winchesters in say 416Rem come at an affordable price and it would be hard to fault as a "good working rifle".

I would much prefer the new win over a Zastava, especially with American prices for the Win M70. It is a shame the Extreme weather is not available in the larger cals.

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Re: a good working rifle [Re: Nitro]
#229407 - 29/04/13 10:02 AM

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I would much prefer the new win over a Zastava, especially with American prices for the Win M70. It is a shame the Extreme weather is not available in the larger cals.

One look at Phil's .458 proves that even 30 years of Alaska won't wear out a gun made with blued steel and wood as long as you take care of it.

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Nitro
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: Grenadier]
#229422 - 29/04/13 10:32 PM

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I would much prefer the new win over a Zastava, especially with American prices for the Win M70. It is a shame the Extreme weather is not available in the larger cals.

One look at Phil's .458 proves that even 30 years of Alaska won't wear out a gun made with blued steel and wood as long as you take care of it.

Not really sure what you mean, one look at Phils rifle makes me glad I dont own it. Other than the barrel what would you expect to wear out?

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DarylS
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: Nitro]
#229431 - 30/04/13 12:37 AM

I'm sure Grenadier meant destroy or ruin, not wear out. The Mauser's are tough, no doubt about that. A modicum of care is all that's needed & they come through. Pretty pampered petting rifles need not apply for real work.

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dok
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: DarylS]
#232545 - 15/07/13 11:47 PM

save yourself time and money and get a nice BRNO ZKK (not the newer CZ) in either 458 or 375. They are a real working rifle and if you must make additions or changes it wont cost a fortune... I've shot many buffalo and dragged it though some rather horrible places and i've always been able to depend on it. i am not too worried if the stock gets scratched or rifle gets dropped. just pick it up and it still functions great...

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albertan
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: dok]
#234540 - 22/08/13 01:31 PM

I really like the Model 70 African models. They have a recoil lug on the barrel, are glass bedded properly, and have a Pachmyer recoil pad already installed. The sights are nice and scoping it will be a breeze. I played with one in .416 Remington and another in .375 H&H and they both fed unsized empties. They are properly proportioned and handsome. A winner by my count.

If you are a south paw you are out of luck.

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Ash
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Re: a good working rifle [Re: blacks]
#234543 - 22/08/13 05:04 PM

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Ant,

Sounds like you want to build something similar to what I have as my 'working' big game rifle. Mine is a Mk. X Mauser .458 WM, in a B&C Medallist stock, 24" barrel, with a Leupy VX3 1.5-5x20 heavy duplex in Warne QD's and irons as backup. I like it a lot, might not be a big-dollar rifle but it's rugged and it works.

Cheers

blacks

Blacks - I think i know how i want my Zastava M70 in .458 to look! Thanks for posting that inspiration!

*Pic removed to not clutter up thread*

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