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Ripp
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Winchester model 71
#219801 - 19/11/12 08:58 AM

Probably old news to most, but had NO idea they were making these again...think I just found my Christmas gift...

Ripp

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albertan
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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: Ripp]
#220541 - 29/11/12 07:16 PM

Peep sights or would you keep using the buckhorns? A 250 grain Hawk or Barnes bullet and you could chase after swamp donkeys with panache.

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Ripp
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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: albertan]
#220569 - 30/11/12 12:57 AM

Personally, I like the buckhorns...grew up with them..so they seem natural...think it is an awesome gun/caliber..certainly on my to get list..

Ripp

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: Ripp]
#220598 - 30/11/12 04:30 AM

got to have one of those already got 348 brass

greenshoots

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Ripp
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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: greenshoots]
#220648 - 30/11/12 08:05 PM

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got to have one of those already got 348 brass

greenshoots

Agree---would love to have one of these and use it on a moose hunt ..thimk that would be a great time..

Ripp

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: Ripp]
#220652 - 30/11/12 09:53 PM

There are several model 71s listed in the RIA auction.

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: gatsby]
#220662 - 01/12/12 02:55 AM

.348 Winchester Improved - what a ROUND!!! Check out John Kronfeld's article on one in the Wolf Publishing "Big Bore Rifles and Cartridges".

Just for a ballistics taste?
250gr. LBT or Barnes 2,412fps - best of 2,530fps. using H4350
300gr. Hoch - 2,305fps.

Scovil ran the Standard .348 article and Kronfeld wrote the IMP version.

Both comprehensive articles, standard and IMP, ran jacketed and cast from 3/4" to 1 1/2".

It is a GREAT honkin' rifle.

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: DarylS]
#220684 - 01/12/12 09:37 AM

I would rather have the 1892 carbine in .357 Magnum with 20" barrel, but for the moment I will make do with my 1894 Marlin.

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albertan
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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: HistoricBore]
#220732 - 01/12/12 09:39 PM

Lee makes a factory crimp die for the .348 Winchester. Brass can be a problem with this round. Bullets setting back into the case due to insufficient neck tension is a common problem with older factory ammunition. Old, hard brass is usually the culprit. Annealing and crimping are necessary with this round.

If it is too much for you, I will take this trouble maker off your hands.

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Ripp
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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: DarylS]
#220743 - 02/12/12 01:04 AM

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.348 Winchester Improved - what a ROUND!!! Check out John Kronfeld's article on one in the Wolf Publishing "Big Bore Rifles and Cartridges".

Just for a ballistics taste?
250gr. LBT or Barnes 2,412fps - best of 2,530fps. using H4350
300gr. Hoch - 2,305fps.

Scovil ran the Standard .348 article and Kronfeld wrote the IMP version.

Both comprehensive articles, standard and IMP, ran jacketed and cast from 3/4" to 1 1/2".

It is a GREAT honkin' rifle.

Thanks for the info Daryl...you have only confirmed I truly need to have one of these..

Scovil is a stand up guy--have visited with him at a few shows and talked on the phone once several years ago ...

Ripp

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: Ripp]
#223626 - 15/01/13 12:04 AM

I am a fan of the Win 71 also. My choice is the deluxe rifle with the bolt aperture sight. That was a real woods gun.

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: CptCurl]
#223628 - 15/01/13 02:54 AM

Yup - I can see why Harold Johnson of Cooper's Landing Alaska liked them for guiding, in .450 Alaskan and .50 Alaskan.
The .50 was his end-all masterpiece chambering, using a 450gr. cup-pointed steel cored shortened .5 bullet at about 1,850fps. They were cut off just above the cannelure, then reversed so the normal bullet's boat-tailed base cup, became the bullet's nose. The weight was 450gr. Harold noted he could not keep one inside a brown bear, that all exited but due to the 'cup' point, made some wonderful cavitation on the tissue as they penetrated.

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: DarylS]
#223683 - 16/01/13 01:15 AM

If the new 71s are as slick and solid as the Winchester originals, or the Browning/Miroku remakes from the 1980s, they are fine guns. I have a Browning carbine, in .348 WIN of course, which has now been sent off to for conversion to .475 Turnbull with a 26 inch barrel.

Don't get me wrong the .348 is a great cartridge. 270 gr bullets with great S.D. at 2150 FPS are sufficient for anything in North America. It's no wonder the gun has always been a popular carry in Alaska.

I guess like Mr. Johnson long ago I just saw potential in going a bit bigger for even more of a stopper. I look at the 71 as the ultimate development of the J.M. Browning 1886 action. I use a Lyman aperture sight on mine.

All the best.

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: hunter_angler]
#223896 - 19/01/13 07:16 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Any thing that Mr Browning had some input into, I'm a total and complete fan of!
This includes these newly manufactured, Miroku/Browning made firearms as well!!!

I would like to get at least one copy, of everything Mr Browning ever designed!
Slowly getting there!!!
Further to this, there is a Winchester 1895 in .405 Win (in VGC) on www.usedguns.com.au (in the "Whats New" section), for $2850. To late if you needed it, as it looks to be sold!

By the way, I received a few 2013 catalogs from Woodleigh Bullets, thru the week.
I see they are still making a 250grn FN SN bullet (Catalog # 348), for the .348 Winchester cartridge!

Doh!
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Edited by Homer (19/01/13 07:20 AM)

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: Homer]
#225467 - 18/02/13 06:01 AM

I have a Pre War 1939 with a peep site,can't see the irons as well or I would take it for deer more often.Here it is with me in younger days

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Ripp
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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: nhdblfan]
#225472 - 18/02/13 07:20 AM

Great pic/...thanks for sharing...

Ripp

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: Ripp]
#225631 - 20/02/13 06:22 PM

nhdblfan

You must come around more often. Those are great photo's. Thank you for sharing these with us.

When Browning came out with the replica 71 and the 52B, I should have jumped on them. I didn't and have regretted it ever since. The Japanese replicas were beautiful renditions of these magnificent classics.

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Ripp
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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: albertan]
#225641 - 21/02/13 01:41 AM

These are actually available on a pretty regular basis at the gun shows around here..so they can still be had..

Ripp

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Re: Winchester model 71 [Re: Ripp]
#225847 - 23/02/13 11:21 PM

Thank you Ripp and albertan,

I wish my picture taking was better(and I still had that much hair) its a nice gun with that early red tint to the stock.There is one on AA arms now-not mine and fully priced,so they the pre war long tang ones Delux ares still around

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