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Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm
      #224090 - 22/01/13 08:06 AM

FedEx just delivered.
Have only taken time to de-greased the bolt enough to get it to close, for the pictures.
It will get a full strip and dip to de-grease. Metal looks very good, wood is of a bit better quality Walnut than the normal Arctic Beech.


Quick response is that I like it.








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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Caprivi]
      #224110 - 22/01/13 04:08 PM

You won't regret buying your 46. I love mine...one of my favorite rifles. It feels so good in the hand. I find that waisted Prince-of-Wales grip really comfy.

Some of them have quite nice figure, unlike a lot of later Husqvarnas.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Even]
      #224127 - 23/01/13 01:19 AM

yes, everybody should have such a Husqvarna
its a real classic

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: lancaster]
      #224132 - 23/01/13 02:09 AM

Nice and clean, Caprivi - bloody good show!

Mine is 1927 - they are nice shooting rifles. The walnut is quite nice on some of them. Mine's rather plain, but in great shape.

It loves Varget, H4895 and BLC2 - with all bullet weights from 225gr. to 300gr. & putting all of them into sub 1" groups at 100 meters - sometimes all touching. The different weights are not all in the same single group, BUT - 270, 286, 293 and 300's all shoot into a 2" to 2 1/2" group, while the 225's and 232's print 2" higher, perfect.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: DarylS]
      #224136 - 23/01/13 02:23 AM

definetly a poor mans rigby ,,i first seen one about 20 years ago at a high end gun shop sitting on the lowend rack ...i looked like a early transition 7mm rigby ,,i think i paid 3-400usd and thought it was a steal .....paul

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: pjaln]
      #224173 - 23/01/13 02:55 PM

Agreed Paul, my attraction is indeed that they are a small pre-98 mauser, as well as trim , if not of the pedigree, of those wonderful Rigbys. Thou I will say they have not escalated in value as a Rigby has, you paid 3-400us 20yrs ago, very nice ones (of which I think mine is) sell for 325.00
All the better for us.

Daryl is a huge help, mentor, on all things Husky 9.3x57. If you have questions he is the one to ask.

Agreed Even, I am fond already.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Caprivi]
      #224176 - 23/01/13 03:37 PM

if you dont know it you can date the rifle by the serial number
http://www.skydevaaben.com/hvasno/info.xml

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: lancaster]
      #224183 - 23/01/13 05:24 PM

I am looking for one of these, I have just picked up a 9.5x57 built on a VZ24 it is very nice but I so want one of these classics.
Great photo's I am sure it will become a favorite, they feel lovely in the hand.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Viking338]
      #224193 - 24/01/13 12:23 AM


I have the same thing, a beautiful plain Jane stalking rifle in a great caliber.
These are easy to load for using 8x57 brass and Speer 270 gr and Prizi 286 gr bullets.

And they are a joy to shoot.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Dresden]
      #224197 - 24/01/13 02:34 AM

I'd like at least 1 more - maybe two. One I'd convert to 9.3x57IMP, just for kicks.

That VZ 9.5x57 would be a treat.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: DarylS]
      #224277 - 25/01/13 02:30 PM

Hey Viking, lets see that, a 9.5...very cool...easier to feed as well.

Thanks Lancaster, mine is 5804, so indeed 1931. Thanks very much for this link, it has been saved.

I have fired it about 40 times now. Thoroughly enjoying it. I have reversed the rear sight, for a bit better view with my eyes and our Sunshine. If I ever find my sight file, it will get a shallow Vee as well, instead of the tight square notch.
I have a supply of 270gr Speer bullets, as well as a few swage tools to built and possibly a mold or 3.

The big hang up has been readily available reloading dies. CH4D has them, spendy and up to 6weeks to process orders. Hornady is taking orders for a possible May production run. RCBS and Redding are 150.00us-ish plus 3 months minimum leade time. Right now I am using a shortened 9.3x63 neck die to size and seating in a 30/378 die (happen to be handy and makes nice straight loaded ammo, so ????

Hey Daryl, you indeed need another, TradeexCanada is TOO cheap not to........:):):)
Have you thought of using a 284 reamer to sweep the chamber ??? for your 9.3x57IMP.......

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: DarylS]
      #224278 - 25/01/13 03:03 PM

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That VZ 9.5x57 would be a treat.



Yes I can't wait test it out. Sadly work is keeping me away from the "happy hunting" grounds out at Neale's. I will try to get some photo's soon, has a lovely stock.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Caprivi]
      #224322 - 26/01/13 09:48 AM

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Hey Daryl, you indeed need another, TradeexCanada is TOO cheap not to........:):):)
Have you thought of using a 284 reamer to sweep the chamber ??? for your 9.3x57IMP.......



A .284 as in a .280 AckImp would be perfect for cutting the body and moving the shoulder just a bit further forward. The Winchester case is too short and large diameter .475 shoudler .500" base) seem to me.

A .376 Styer reamer would fresh up and Improve 9.5x57 using that chamber length of 2.235", but that would merely be a .376 Styer shortened 1/10" or so.

A 9.3x57IMP in a M98 would easily give slightly better than 2,340fps with a 286gr., but in a M96, virtually duplicate our slightly downloaded 9.3x62 ammo and do it in a slimmer, more easily handled rifle. Those 46 husky's are NICE slim, quick handling and pointing rifles. Cock on opening devices can be attached if required as side swing safeties, I'd expect, I think, as well as speed locks, etc. But then, I really like the rifle the say it comes. Mine was built in 1929.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: DarylS]
      #224665 - 03/02/13 07:55 AM

Update of the 46 saga,

I have settled on the shortened 9.3x62mm Neck die. The chamber in my rifle is very tight, right at spec minumum for body and neck (more on the later) and am seating bullets with a 35whelen seater.

I have been going through some used brass I traded for. It was loaded in the 80's with 3031 and 286norma. The bullets where near impossible to pull, ended up using fence pliers and the press. Seems that the loaded rounds where run back thru the sizer die. The bullet that was in the neck of the case where "squeezed" to .360" with the base and nose still being .365". I just figured the loader was a fool.............

In fireforming (while the chamber diameter is minimum, the headspace is LOoooong, about .020") anyway, after setting a false shoulder, shooting all these "squeezed" bullets with a 14gr Unique fireform load, I some cases to play with.My plan is to learn the techinque to load this rifle with this old brass, then work into the NEW brass.
So they are trimmed, cleaned, checked, etc....... load a dummy to start figuring a O.A.L.......With the 270 speer I cannot get the bolt to close and any seating length. Sized empty case is a bit stiff. After a bit of aggravation (been laid up with some old guy aliments, so plenty of shop time) it dawned on me the necks of the loaded cases might be too big. The chamber/neck measures .391" with the load cartridge measuring .396" to .400" ..........what the Heck......... Not having a currently working neck turning tool, I went thru the tool chest and found a less than sharp "3/8th" (it is really .380") ream. Some polishing and re-learning how to sharpen the ream was in order. I installed a LEE .375 expander ball in a LEE universal decapping die, opened the neck (again) on a few test cases, ran the ream thru, ran the case back thru the neck die, load bullet, chamber easily, load with 50grs CFE223 and a 270gr Speer, BOoommmm. Measure the fired case. Fired case neck is .391", .010" neck thickness, .386" sized loaded case neck diameter.

All of this helped me wallow away a week of anti-biotics for Prostatitis http://www.prostatitis.org/?gclid=CJ6Kt_-_mLUCFWaCQgodRCQAGA but has raised a few questions.
Is .010"neck thickness enough ??? Is .003" enough clearence ??? There is a tempting to ream the chamber neck to .420" or so and make/swage bullets to correspond with the .370" groove diameter. Being relatively lazy, I will probably just load as I am, if new brass has the similar thick necks I will ream/turn them and keep on going.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Caprivi]
      #224715 - 04/02/13 04:34 AM

Sounds like a duplicate to my rifle, Joe - .370" groove diameter with minimum chamber diameter and neck.

With necked down '06 cases, I can only use .365" Privi bullets, but with 8x57 RP brass formed, I can use up to .367" bullets.

Seems to me, the chamber in my rifle was .392" (.391" fired case), which was standard for most 9.3's (I think).

I also think .010" is fine for neck walls, but it is thin.

As long as the case neck can expand to allow an unfired bullet to be pushed into the fired neck, it's fine. They will all be the same, for your own loading development.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: DarylS]
      #224735 - 04/02/13 11:44 AM

The minimum chamber is fine for sure, quite nice actually as all I do is neck size. The tight neck is okay as well. It is just these 35 cases, the rest are in top nic, so i can re-learn a few brass handling skills and then use them for practice/plinking.

I have formed a few R-P 8x57 cases and they are too thick as well, by .001" with a .366" Speer.

thanks for all your help/info so far Daryl,
Ed

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Caprivi]
      #224763 - 05/02/13 02:46 AM

Pleasure, Ed. Almost 'fixed' the small neck on mine with a chucking reamer - from Pacific. They used to be quire reasonably priced and are available in .001" increments, I think. One of the guys on Saubier's Small Bore Forum used one on a job he was doing where he only had to enlarge the neck to an appropriate size.
Since mine shot so well with normal 9.3 bullets, I left it as-is. However, if wanting to shoot cast bullets accurately, it would need to be enlarged to hold a .370"(minimum) to .372" (best) bullet.

Incidently, a lee lead bullet sizer die will reduce jacketed or cast .375's to .370" or .372" in one pass. They now have this technology and are making dies for guys for doing just this, sizing down over-sized bullets to fit their rifles. They do suggest .003" increments, I think. This move with Lee, thanks to Rod Halversen of Idaho.
Cast bullets can be sized down easily and perfectly, as long as they are properly lubed first. I have sized .376" down to .366" with excellent results - no distortion and great shooting (in my 9.3x62).

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: DarylS]
      #224997 - 09/02/13 06:34 AM

I have cases that will work. Loaded some ammo that has all the recoil my old neck bones can handle. With file and hammer, they land on the bead at 100, in a cluster that shows some fondness for each other. Pairs and 2 pairs will stay in a inch with boredom.

Some I am at a crossroads. It is behaving, thou I do not like the +.015" or so headspace, I don't like the .391" neck with a .370 bore............


I am debating selling it off.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Caprivi]
      #225008 - 09/02/13 10:12 AM

Mine won't get shot now enough to hurt the rifling with the oversized groove diameter. My brother will use it as a guide rifle (he's 64 now), or late season panic moose rifle if he can't round one up during the calling time with ML or bow.

Mine has .019" headspace on necked up 8x57 brass. The shoulder start is supposed to be the same for both 9.3 and 8mm rounds, so shows my rifle's headspace is .004" worse than your rifle's. I don't see it as a big problem as my rifles all use handloads regardless.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Caprivi]
      #226172 - 01/03/13 06:11 AM

Beautiful rifle. I bought a pair of Model 146 rifles (98 action) in similar condition and promptly reamed them out to x62 as they should have been built in the first place (given the action). I think I am into the PAIR less than $1000 including rechambering, bedding, etc. They will be buried with me.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: JohnTheGreek]
      #226186 - 01/03/13 08:38 AM

Does your fired brass have a 'step' at the base of the neck, JohnTheGreek?

Given the M98 action, a standard 9.3x57 with handloads, can match today's weak-kneed 286gr. standard 9.3x62 ammo for speed, ie: 2,340fps.
Of course if in an area where you have to shoot factory ammo, the 9.3x62 is a much better choice - of course.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: DarylS]
      #226234 - 02/03/13 04:59 AM

Itīs a pity that they are not especially appreciated in Sweden. You can buy them from $100. 46, 146, 640. Of course when you only are allowed to have 6 rifles, you must choose. /Staffan

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Sville]
      #226250 - 02/03/13 11:10 AM

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Itīs a pity that they are not especially appreciated in Sweden. You can buy them from $100. 46, 146, 640. Of course when you only are allowed to have 6 rifles, you must choose. /Staffan



That is why Simpson LTD. http://www.simpsonltd.com/ has so many of them. When our government closes down Importation, where we they all go ??? Ground up for scrap with no reimbursment I would suspect...........similar to what will happen with all the AR's here in a year or so....;)

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: Caprivi]
      #226285 - 03/03/13 03:08 AM

tradeexcanada has sold hundreds and hundreds of them here.

For firearms that are declared prohibited here - we also have a reimbursement law.

When the previous Canadian Governments (Liberal) used the" bring in your 'deactivated M14' for disposal- you have 7 days to comply- law, they declared they didn't have to reimburse the owners for a 'fair marker value', as the now prohibited firearm no longer had any market value as it could no longer be legally purchased.

Here, the M46's run about $200.00 to $300.00. The M246's are just over $300.00 to about $375.00 and the 640's are mid to high $300.00's. I'm referring to 9.3x57's and 9.3x62's. The odd 9x57 Mauser sneaks in as well as M46's or M96's in .30/06,and 8x57.

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Re: Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57mm [Re: DarylS]
      #226286 - 03/03/13 03:57 AM

I sold all my 9.3x57's, but tho I paid about $300-$350 for them, I got about a hundred bucks more on each.

Now they seem to be selling for a fair sight more than that.

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