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John303
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #255025 - 12/10/14 01:07 AM

Huvius; I am not absolutely certain but I don't think any actions were made specifically for shotgun usage, that "shield" is most likely "soldered" on. This was only done on the Remo all the others were screwed on with two screws. That thingy under the ejector is part of the shell retaining / release system again this method is only on the Remo. The "mushroom" on the front of the bolt is pinned vs held by the extractor on the others.

The stock on the one in your pic. is not original but a modified military - well done though. The Remo had a nice rifle type stock side panels, cheek piece and all. All the rest had cut down military stocks no embellishments.

A write-up on these is in "Bolt Action Rifles by F. de Haas" another on the Gunboards site. In Franks book he alludes to the fact the 98 Remos (not to be confused with the Remo-popular which is based on the Mauser 71) are rather scarce likely due to cost. The Remo all in all is more refined and complex when compared to say a Geha etc.

I have pics. of mine and can Email to you / anyone willing to post. FWIW --- John


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #255074 - 13/10/14 06:50 AM

Tentman, I saw that one too, I think it might be a 9x57.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: stug]
      #255847 - 28/10/14 05:12 AM

Model 45A in 22 lr








http://www.galeriedemars.fr/allfolks/CFA2007_frameset_UK.html

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256000 - 30/10/14 06:23 AM

charming Eduard Kettner/Cöln und Suhl pre war mauser in 8x57I
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5141389
will end probably cheap











original Oberndorf Mauser Stutzen in 8x57 IS, 50 cm long barrel
number 126317, one of the last made in 1944/45
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5162466











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256017 - 30/10/14 08:26 AM

Not in auction but for sale in Sweden. IMO very nice rifle in good caliber:

http://www.blocket.se/varmland/G_L_Rasch_56950474.htm?ca=3&w=3







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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #256024 - 30/10/14 10:21 AM

The Eduard Kettner rifle is obviously built pre-WW1 on a Mauser, Oberndorf commercial action.
The Mauser S Stutzen/carbine was completed by Walter Röll post-1945, as shown by the Serial number.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #256085 - 31/10/14 03:42 AM

The S type has a military action bolt :-(

I am so desperately looking for an S type and a kurz :-(


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Gen_Hicks]
      #256087 - 31/10/14 04:12 AM

Quote:

The S type has a military action bolt(



So have many Mauser sporters from late WW2 production, see Jon Speed: Mauser - OOSR, page 293. But this rifle was built by the former Mauser master gunsmith Walter Roell post-WW2, evidenced by the Serial number and the lack of eagle/N + staghorn proofmarks on the Receiver ring. Roell was given the left-over Mauser commercial parts by the French to make "Mauser" sporters for allied officers.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #256093 - 31/10/14 05:53 AM

@ kunduae
I think you are not right.
take a look at page 457 of the Jon Speed Mauser book.
The S- Stutzen is made at the end at 1944 and is not an "occupation" Mauser by Walter Röll.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Abel1]
      #256095 - 31/10/14 06:57 AM

Welcome aboard,

But it is a safe bet , that The Type S is a Röll Mauser. As Kuduae stated above it lacks the staghorn proof mark on the receiver.

The number -if you follow J.Speeds book - also will identify it as an "occupation" Mauser.

An added sign ( at least to my personal experience) is the reddish extractor you will find on nearly all Röll Mauser´s.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256145 - 01/11/14 12:01 AM

"charming Eduard Kettner/Cöln und Suhl pre war mauser in 8x57I
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5141389
will end probably cheap"

I see one of our own is the current highest bidder

"Highest bidder: rigbymauser"

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Ash]
      #256149 - 01/11/14 12:52 AM

Quote:

"charming Eduard Kettner/Cöln und Suhl pre war mauser in 8x57I
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5141389
will end probably cheap"

I see one of our own is the current highest bidder

"Highest bidder: rigbymauser"




Oh man....Gee Thanks...I didn´t see that one.

Thanks for sharing


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: rigbymauser]
      #256464 - 09/11/14 05:30 PM

Holland&Holland Take-Down .240 Apex,

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5181172#img













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256469 - 09/11/14 08:42 PM

Ooh thats nice.... A factory scoped one would probably be more preferable..but will be keeping an eye on the above and possibly throwing a bid

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Ash]
      #256471 - 09/11/14 08:48 PM

Messrs Holland & Holland will be glad to make you a factory scope

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256476 - 09/11/14 10:46 PM

Oh it's already drilled and tapped, how did i not notice! Ignore previous comment of mine.

Lancaster, you sure do find a lot of amazing stuff.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Ash]
      #256652 - 13/11/14 06:57 AM

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5173257

A nearby numbered item as to be seen here

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post227747

Someone may help to post the pictures.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: justcurious]
      #256718 - 14/11/14 01:40 PM

Geniune 505 Gibbs at Rock Island

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/63/lid/1377





And a Westley 425 takedown at the same auction.

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/63/lid/1378






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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: justcurious]
      #256720 - 14/11/14 02:23 PM

Quote:

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5173257

A nearby numbered item as to be seen here

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post227747

Someone may help to post the pictures.













1906 Mauser/Oberndorf, proof U + B /crown Kal. 8 x 57
new barrel by K.Barthelmes eagle/ N proof + 741, heart + fir tree
stamp on the stock showing the rifle was registered in Ossidinge/Kamerun as no. 941.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #256730 - 14/11/14 03:16 PM

Quote:

Geniune 505 Gibbs at Rock Island

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/63/lid/1377





And a Westley 425 takedown at the same auction.

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/63/lid/1378









The scope on the 505 kind of ruins it for me.
That said, I don't know how useful the prismatic scope on the 425 would be. Super nice rifle otherwise though and I have a fondness of the 425WR.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #256811 - 16/11/14 04:16 AM

Westley Richards Takedown hunting rifle, calibre 318 Accelerated Express, serial no. LT40116, barrel length 64 cm, total length 120 cm, Mauser 98 lock with 3 position safety, interior magazine with base plate for four cartridges. In good mechanical condition with age-related traces of wear, marks, front and rear sight. Original case included.
http://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/westle...celer/i3625810/





























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256836 - 16/11/14 05:03 PM

Wonderful rifle, but to me It doesn't look like that .318 Westley takedown is assembled correctly in the photos. The tang needs to go down farther, and be underneath the portion that is attached to the rear guard screw.

That would put it down where it needs to be, and also lower the trigger down farther into the guard.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: redoak]
      #256859 - 17/11/14 02:12 AM

You are correct.
They did not hook the rear of the action under the keeper in the stock.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #256910 - 17/11/14 04:33 PM

I hate it when they sand the stock down soo much that they round the edges.... This one 's bolt stop sticks out by nearly 2 mm!and the srew nearly sticks out.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Gen_Hicks]
      #257072 - 23/11/14 12:23 AM

Emil Kerner 8x57IS with Zeiss Zielvier on claw mount















http://www.lauritz.com/de/auktion/emil-kerner-sohn-kaliber-8x57js-jagtriffel/i3620423/#

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