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Africa vintage pic thread
      #222515 - 29/12/12 11:03 PM

think we need a own thread where such vintage pic's can be post



Andrew Holmberg in Kenia, think after WW 2

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222516 - 29/12/12 11:05 PM

and now something completly different
north africa, algeria in the time of the algerian war



wild boars and a vulture




partridge



vulture


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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222518 - 29/12/12 11:17 PM



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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222519 - 29/12/12 11:25 PM







north cameroon between the wars



chad circa 1940
http://www.google.de/imgres?q=chasse+afr...&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:100,i:55&tx=71&ty=86




unknown before ww 2
http://www.google.de/imgres?q=chasse+afr...&ved=1t:429,r:72,s:0,i:310&tx=59&ty=87

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222520 - 30/12/12 12:54 AM

1910 Congo - Elephant Hunter


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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: Grenadier]
      #222522 - 30/12/12 02:35 AM

Good idea for a thread and great photos already.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: NitroX]
      #222530 - 30/12/12 06:11 AM









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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222531 - 30/12/12 06:17 AM

not only for pics also for old graphics

like this:italien east africa





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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222535 - 30/12/12 06:32 AM

ethiopia in the 1930s it seem's the man in the middle is a member of the aristocracy
decent mauser sporter




the old italien veterli rifle was for man with a common income



but better than an old muzzle loader musket



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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222538 - 30/12/12 07:53 AM

Its a laugh the railway ad eh...all that adventure and wild man killers storming the train.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: gryphon]
      #222583 - 30/12/12 08:54 PM

thats how the german colonizes
the english
the french and the belgian





men of the german Dora command 1942 eating on the tropic of cancer in sight distance of the Tibesti mountains
become aware that there is no shadow! the water can mark the line.



more pics of the Dora command





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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222633 - 31/12/12 02:04 PM

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thats how the german colonizes
the english
the french and the belgian







Funny old cartoon, but definitely from the colonial German point of view. Goose stepping giraffe, and muzzling the crocs. The English racking the native, feeding them at one end, and turning out ? at the other end as a product, while preaching God to the native. The French men loving the black girls, hay JB, black panthers??? The Belgium roasting the black man and eating him like a cannibal.

A different point of view, and not all that incorrect in colonial days.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: NitroX]
      #222643 - 31/12/12 03:33 PM

I think the gentleman on the left side is filling cheap alcohol into the native and the soldier is pressing money out of him

must have sketch around 1900 by someone who never leave europe like most people in those days.right or wrong? like allways a fifty fifty chance!


Queen Farida of Egypt
thats also africa, no doubt a best gun



http://www.google.de/imgres?q=hunting+eg...&ved=1t:429,r:74,s:0,i:316

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222645 - 31/12/12 03:58 PM

pic of a barbary lion in algiers 1875







looks like a hunting party in southern france go for birdshooting, realy a driven hunt on a leopard in 1930. its in the Jijel province/ Algeria near the Mediterranean See



leopard shoot around 1930 in the Annaba province/ Algeria also near the Mediterranean See



http://el-milia.over-blog.com/article-li...e-48446703.html

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #222758 - 03/01/13 01:12 AM



John Wayne celebrating New Year's Eve in 1960 during the filming of "Hatari".

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: NitroX]
      #222879 - 04/01/13 05:50 PM

1935 somewhere in africa



looks like a british Bombay Bowler Sun Helmet
http://www.nyc-techwriters.com/militaria/british_helmets2.htm
so its probably a british hunter

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #223181 - 09/01/13 05:18 AM

I had this once in a lifetime opportunity to join a group of hunters/Member of BASA "Hunting the Great hunters".

We met Harry Salby, John Dugmore, Fred Bartlet (not long before he passed), Ian Mcfarlen and some more true hunting legends and was guided by Ken Steward someone i will for always call one of my hero's, we went in their homes, looked at their photo albums and the collections they had on the walls of photos in their young days..
Spent time listening to stories and even looked at legendary rifles, i would most likely never be able to buy..

This was one truly amazing experience, i just wish i had some of their photos and stories i could share here, they where a breed of hunters on their own, taming africa on safari :-)

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: MarvelAfrica]
      #223443 - 12/01/13 05:49 AM

believe in the french congo



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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #225842 - 23/02/13 06:42 PM

hippo in senegal



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an italien postcard found in tobruk 1941


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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #225854 - 24/02/13 02:28 AM

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hippo in senegal




Casamance , south part of Sénégal near border of Guinea Bissau . Unfortunately Sénégal is today only a country for birds and warthogs hunting .

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      #225890 - 24/02/13 08:08 PM

FUZZY-WUZZY



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      #225903 - 24/02/13 11:43 PM

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Casamance , south part of Sénégal near border of Guinea Bissau . Unfortunately Sénégal is today only a country for birds and warthogs hunting .



the hippo looks realy huge.
grandveneur, I was seeing a documentary film about the Djoudj national park and look a little bit whats possible today in senegal also. pigs and birds are not bad in the end the price is good for seeing something different.
http://chasseausenegal.onlc.fr/

is there more than one outfitter today in senegal? whats with plainsgame? I understand that most of the native's follow the islam in a modest way so the pigs are a NO-NO. other game ends as bushmeat where ever they see it?

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      #225910 - 25/02/13 01:34 AM

There are a lot of outfitters for combi-hunts birds and warthog . The problem is that the hunting areas are near of the borders of Mauretania or Mali . Not a very good address today ! The local people are all muslims but that's not a problem in Senegal ( to date ! ) .

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      #226153 - 28/02/13 11:59 PM

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FUZZY-WUZZY





Indeed.

What are carrying? Hockey sticks?

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      #229076 - 20/04/13 01:37 PM

behind frontlines

cairo 43/44


somewhere in northafrica 1941


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      #229139 - 21/04/13 07:38 PM

In Africa there are no gaur's !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaur

A test or a trick question ?

Edited by grandveneur (21/04/13 07:40 PM)

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      #231876 - 30/06/13 04:55 AM



Travel Gabriel Ramecourt, explorer in Africa, member of the Union of French Colonial Big Game Hunters, c. Four albums from 1928 to 1930 about 760 vintage silver prints, handwritten captions on album pages - French West Africa (Dahomey, Upper Gambia, Senegal, Guinea) villages, traditional houses, markets, rivers, forest, dances, fishing, scenery, beaches (approx. 192) - Hunts elephants (butchering boucanage) gorilla skeleton, several species of gazelles, antelopes, bongos, kobs, bush camps, hippos, giraffes, lions, hyenas , elk, waterfowl, etc.. (approx. 192) - villages and landscapes of Africa: Côte d'Ivoire (market, port, lagoons, villages, forest), Niger (the river), Mauritania (villages, Moorish types Senegal River mosque), Sudan (market and mosques of Timbuktu, villages, mosques, Tuareg camps, caravans, strong Menaka, seed reserves, washerwomen, rivers, lakes, canoes) and other (approx. 192) - Types: Types of Sudan, Upper Volta, Mauritania, Senegal, etc.. (Wolof, Foulabés, women Bassaris, Targuis, Fulani, Bambara, Malinke, Saras, Grand Chief Mangbetou and women, twins, Vangambué and other tribes) (ca. 192) is attached to the work of Gabriel Ramecourt "Great hunts and things of Africa ", Firmin-Didot et Cie publishers, 1970, 382 p. - Diary of the exciting journey of the explorer in Africa from 1928 to 1930 and illustrated with photographs from the album
sold for 2800 euros http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http:...wBg&dur=558

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #232124 - 04/07/13 09:39 PM

Great photos.

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      #234497 - 20/08/13 10:15 PM

Thinking of a past life;

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      #234501 - 21/08/13 02:31 AM

dont know what it is but something is wrong with the pic

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #234515 - 21/08/13 08:01 PM

A great series of photos

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"I speak of Africa and golden joys; the joy of wandering through lonely lands; the joy of hunting the mighty and terrible lords of the wilderness, the cunning, the wary and the grim"

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: gwh]
      #234517 - 21/08/13 09:17 PM

Some very interesting photos. Good effort with the pic Adam.

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      #234554 - 23/08/13 01:21 AM



seems even fathers were hunting.

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      #234556 - 23/08/13 02:09 AM

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In Africa there are no gaur's !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaur

A test or a trick question ?



Ah ha, I see the photo you refer to.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: NitroX]
      #234607 - 24/08/13 04:59 AM

I see Teddy Roosevelt in a picture. Is it also Teddy R riding a zebra?

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      #234641 - 24/08/13 06:20 PM

Hi Lancaster
You’re unbeatable to dig out vintage pictures.

I see You have hit the gold mine, Delcampe postcards website, that is the ebay for postcards, stamps, coins.
Funny thing are mentions added to the description of postcards such as “seins nus” which means bare breast.:)

I have also roamed this website. I am more at ease among the French nouns.

I also recommend You

idpao

=Indochine&display_mode=list]culture.fr
for Indo China……………..not very practical (Spanish used on a french culture ministry website?

France Archives





for navigating among names that most frenchmen have forgotten.


Asia

Indochine : Laos+ Cambodia+ Vietnam. Burma and Malaysia were British colonies. Thailand remained independent.

Cochinchine : South Vietnam

Tonkin : North Vietnam

Annam : center of the Vietnam and mountains of Laos
Siam : Thailand



Africa



After WWI France got Cameroon and Togo, GB got Tanzania , all German colonies.

Afrique subsaharienne : African countries South of Sahara desert. South of Algeria, Marocco Tunisia, and English Lybia and Italian Egypt.

AOF : Afrique Orientale Française : East French Africa =
Mauritania, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Ivory coast, Benin, Togo, Mali, Niger, enclaves in Nigeria and Guinea-Conakry (must not be confused with Equatorial Guinea (Spain) and Bissao Guinea (Portugal).

AEF : Afrique Equatoriale Française, French Equatorial Africa : French Congo, CAR, Tchad……and Cameroon.

Soudan français : French Suddan, Mali

Oubangui-Chari : CAR
Cote d’or : Ghana

For the rest, names are similar with English’s.

Animals

Same names : Lion leopard crocodile rhinoceros elephant giraffe eland bongo
Hippopotame, Buffle, Gaur (for Sladang or Seladang), babouin, antelope, gorille, chimpanze, caiman : you can guess
Bushbuck = guib harnache
Mandril = baboon
Cob Defassa : waterbuck
Bubale = Hartebeest
Roan = hippotrague,

A link to an English-French glossary English French mini Glossary

A SERIOUS PITFALL when roaming the internet with French words:

Chasse : means hunt, but also any quest, and more often than wished, FIGHTER AIRCRAFT.

Chasseur
1) Hunter
2) Fighter airplane
3) Special force : mobile autonomous shock troops units for scouting, infiltration, skirmish and violent assault.

Good luck my friend.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #234642 - 24/08/13 06:52 PM

Languid grace, similarity of pose

G A B O O N



T C H A D

(image removed)

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #234647 - 24/08/13 08:50 PM

Like you Larcher, I prefer the bottom picture



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      #234651 - 24/08/13 11:40 PM

One of larcher's "black panthers" again.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #234681 - 25/08/13 07:34 PM

larcher, thanks for the education. I find this very interesting. Your last photo is also educational

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: Rule303]
      #234704 - 26/08/13 06:03 AM

I am your servant, Rule303

John

I doubt forumites know what are black panthers.



In west Africa, the hunting camps provide more than hunt and lip service.
At night, some bipedes have the habit to knock at your door,whispering 'c'est l'amour qui passe", love is coming.
Some, black panthers, are meaner. Should your door not be locked, they enter your room and jump in your bed. If they close their eyes and hide their teeth, as they are nude no way to see them in pitch black. You are OWNED.

That's how I contracted AIDS.....twice. Not trite???

[image]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9051368m/f1.highres[/image]

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #234725 - 26/08/13 01:52 PM

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I doubt forumites know what are black panthers.

In west Africa, the hunting camps provide more than hunt and lip service.
At night, some bipedes have the habit to knock at your door,whispering 'c'est l'amour qui passe", love is coming.
Some, black panthers, are meaner. Should your door not be locked, they enter your room and jump in your bed. If they close their eyes and hide their teeth, as they are nude no way to see them in pitch black. You are OWNED.

That's how I contracted AIDS.....twice. Not trite???



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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: NitroX]
      #234729 - 26/08/13 02:29 PM

Larcher you should come to the NT. You would love it.

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      #234740 - 26/08/13 07:56 PM

Claydog
I have visited the NT but with the wife. The only guy I knew there was John and I have a fond memory of our (short) meeting.
No matter, I'll come again as soon as I can have all my time to scour your exceptionnal continent-country, and again fond (or bitter ) memories.

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      #234749 - 27/08/13 12:36 AM

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No problems? All in good humour.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: NitroX]
      #234751 - 27/08/13 12:51 AM

Wouldn't want to be the guy walking around with the buffalo head.
Much better to be a gun bearer!

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      #235202 - 06/09/13 05:16 AM

I feel unconfortable with this picture, a big white hunter in full regalia and a pathetic dwarf girl.




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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #235206 - 06/09/13 07:24 AM

Larcher
You may feel curious, uncomfortable I doubt.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: Claydog]
      #235235 - 07/09/13 12:43 AM

Claydog
You're not wrong.
I can joke with serious or sad matters. I am in the medical biz and I have seen appalling things and I am not especially moved.
But I am fond of kids and this dwarf looks like a wretched kid.
Definitively, what I can't stand at all are............... lion being gored or worse a lion killing lion cubs when taking control of a pride. That can ruin more than one of my days.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #235246 - 07/09/13 05:13 AM

some things are only strange

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #235659 - 15/09/13 09:23 PM

Congo belge




what looks today as exploitation was maybe a very common and simple job then




ivory trade




Stanley and his servant kaluka 1873




a camel train reach Leopoldsvill in the 1890s, proabably coming from sudan, tschad or cameron


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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235679 - 16/09/13 04:10 AM

I was looking for a long time for a pic showing the use of the portuguese Kropatchek rifle in africa

not hunting but here it is




This picture is obtained from Jaime Regalado's book "Cuamatos 1907". A Kropatchek equipped artillery platoon, fired their Kropatchek rifles against the enemy. The artillery gun is a 70mm mountain gun mod.1882, with Krupp gun breech and Portuguese made barrel. This photo is made during the Angola campaign of 1907.

http://members.upc.nl/a.gelderen7/

our older south african members may recognise the landscape

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235709 - 17/09/13 04:58 AM

Lancaster

Real nice pictures, translation for the first pic : "Do as they do here"

I marvel at your gun culture, I am afraid that I never heard of the Kropatchek? From the sound I suppose that it's a Krupp rifle made in Czechoslovakia?

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      #235734 - 18/09/13 03:33 AM

A Kropatschek is any variant of a rifle designed by Alfred von Kropatschek. Kropatschek's rifles used an tubular magazine (constructed of nickel-plated steel) of his design, of the same type used in the German Mauser Gewehr 1871/84 and the Japanese Type 22 Murata. While designed for black powder, the Kropatschek action proved to be strong enough to handle smokeless powder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kropatschek





you get them very cheap but the craftsman quality of this Steyr made rifle is better than most modern hunting rifles today. this is what we mean when talking about the good old times. this rifle was also made in 11x59r Gras for the french navy.
I never seen a sporter but there can be no doubt it have some history as a hunting rifle in angola and mozambique.

exellent video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhaY3pa1oio

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235925 - 22/09/13 12:40 PM



White Rhinoceros taken in Faradje, Congo Belge by Herbert Lang, 1912



Photo extraite de "Les merveilles du Congo belge" -auteur et éditeur inconnu

http://mac-gratuit.fr/site/dl/44/527807b43e.jpg


great pic with a M 88 sporting rifle


http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/019/624/164_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/143/641/129_001.jpg?v=1



post war but vintage now also





http://www.cegesoma.be/cms/acquisitions_en.php?article=677




http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/189/879/089_001.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/135336092914.jpg

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      #235926 - 22/09/13 01:22 PM



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_001.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128309765/Num-21.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128241425/Num-24.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128324265/Num-40.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/133563923032.jpg




http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131197758997/003aa.jpg



congo francais



http://www.azurs.net/carnet/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/chasseurs-de-buffle.jpg



http://www.africa-onweb.com/assets/components/gallery/files/84/3601.jpg

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      #235927 - 22/09/13 01:42 PM

still in belgian and french congo


























http://www.africa-onweb.com/pays/congo/photos-cartes-postales/cpa-congo-chasse-peche.htm

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      #235928 - 22/09/13 02:03 PM

AFRIQUE OUBANGUI-CHARI "La Croisière Noire" Trophées de chasse




http://photoinventory.fr/photos/EC3373.png



Tschad




http://www.ebay.fr/sch/Art-Antiquites-/353/i.html?cmd=Blend&_nkw=chasse+afrique&cmd=Blend






http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Grande-chasse-au-...=item25816acb17



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Chasse-au-TCHAD-P...=item25683b117d



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Grande-chasse-au-...=item2568491b42






http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Afrique-centrale-...=item256849d4ad



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Grande-chasse-au-...=item2568514bca



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Grande-chasse-au-...=item2568287e9d


somewhere in french africa




http://www.ebay.fr/itm/PHOTO-VINTAGE-193...=item4abdf60e58






http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Chasse-en-Afrique...=item256807b27e




http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Anonyme-56-K155-T...=item3a76d6d611

the boys



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/TCHAD-Porteurs-de...=item25684953a1

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      #235929 - 22/09/13 02:30 PM

another gorilla pic from the belgian congo



http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_002.jpg






http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/165/202/423_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_003.jpg

central arica



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/212/173/779_001.jpg?v=1






http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/143/925/076_001.jpg?v=3


BANGUI,CENTRAFRIQUE,A.E.F


http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/169/735/878_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/045/247/334_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/627_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/284_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/325_001.jpg

belgian congo



http://users.skynet.be/rahier.kilo.moto.congo.belge/congo%20%281%29.jpg

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      #235935 - 22/09/13 06:27 PM

unknown



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/172/009/316_001.jpg




http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/215/289/573_001.jpg

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      #235937 - 22/09/13 07:01 PM

Lancaster thanks for posting. some excellent old photos there.

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      #235947 - 23/09/13 01:53 AM

V. nice vintage photos - thanks much!

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      #235956 - 23/09/13 03:46 AM

thanks and there is much more
this is my favorite with a lot of character



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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #236024 - 25/09/13 05:02 AM

Lancasteer

That's incredible, your pics are so rare and precious that they could be edited in a single book . My respectuous congratulations.
Could I quote your posts and translate the french mentions?
For the last picture, this cocky guy is also figuring in a pic in Chad.
Hard to trace the depicted hunters. Most of them are either officers, or state employees or local bussinesmen. There has been PHs but clients were scarce, apart world class hunters.

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      #236067 - 26/09/13 05:14 AM

larcher, any help is welcome

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      #236108 - 27/09/13 01:19 AM

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PORTERCADE, IVORY FOR SALE

http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



THIS IS WHAT I DID AT NOON.. KINSHASSA STATION(Belgian Congo)

http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_001.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128309765/Num-21.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128241425/Num-24.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128324265/Num-40.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/133563923032.jpg




http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131197758997/003aa.jpg



congo francais


FRENCH CONGO. CATHOLIC MISSION. BUFFALO HUNTING
“ THE TRIUMPH OF THE HUNTERS”

http://www.azurs.net/carnet/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/chasseurs-de-buffle.jpg



A NICE CATCH

http://www.africa-onweb.com/assets/components/gallery/files/84/3601.jpg



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      #236109 - 27/09/13 01:30 AM

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still in belgian and french congo


FRENCH CONGO BRAZZAVILLE . BACK FROM THE HUNT

FRENCH CONGO BACK FROM BUFF HUNTING

FRENCH CONGO . DISH OF THE DAY



HIPPO HUNT

A SMALL LEOPARD



HUNTING TROPHY. AN ANTELOPE

My comment, very rare Kudu , usually North of CAR


FRENCH CONGO KILLED CROC (with 2 spelling errors)

HUNTING CAMP. ANTELOPES

FRENCH CONGO BRAZZAVILLE. CATHOLIC MISSION. A TRAPPED LEOPARD
http://www.africa-onweb.com/pays/congo/photos-cartes-postales/cpa-congo-chasse-peche.htm



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      #236111 - 27/09/13 01:56 AM

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another gorilla pic from the belgian congo



http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_002.jpg





HIGHER SANGA .. GORILLA KILLED IN THE VILLAGE or KILLED GORILLA (displayed) IN THE VILLAGE ?
http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/165/202/423_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_003.jpg

central aFrica


ELE HUNT, BAMINGUI RIVER (central North CAR)
http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/212/173/779_001.jpg?v=1



BACK FROM THE LION HUNT. SECOND CITROEN BLACK CRUISE


http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/143/925/076_001.jpg?v=3


BANGUI,CENTRAFRIQUE,A.E.F


http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/169/735/878_001.jpg?v=1


SECOND CITROEN BLACK CRUISE CAR. LION HUNT IN THE CAR

http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/045/247/334_001.jpg?v=1


PAOUA (CAR) ANTELOPES SHOT FOR FEEDING THE PORTERS IN THE “GREAT” BUSH
http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/627_001.jpg?v=1


ANTELOPE SHOT IN PAOUA REGION

http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/284_001.jpg


PRIMITIVE ARM VS MODERN ARM
http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/325_001.jpg

belgian congo



http://users.skynet.be/rahier.kilo.moto.congo.belge/congo%20%281%29.jpg



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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #236118 - 27/09/13 03:04 AM

Thanks Lancaster and JB. Very interesting.

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      #238399 - 29/11/13 03:08 PM



John Kingsley-Heath with a stock-killing lioness he shot in Ethiopia

John Kingsley-Heath, who has died aged 84, ran African safaris for more than half a century, and as a big-game hunter survived many hair-raising encounters with the fiercest beasts of the bush.

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One such occurred in August 1961, when Kingsley-Heath was leading a private safari along the Kisigo river in Tanganyika. From inside a blind (a shelter for hunters), he turned to see a huge, maned lion crouching behind him not 15ft away. As it gathered itself to spring, Kingsley-Heath shot it, and the lion fled. He and his gunbearers gave chase and found the wounded creature lying on its side, breathing heavily.
Recovering in 1961
It was down, but not out. When Kingsley-Heath's client opened fire, the lion made a single bound of 22ft towards the two men. Kingsley-Heath dropped to the ground and smashed the barrel of his .470 rifle over the animal's head, breaking the stock at the pistol grip; the lion staggered. As his gunbearers and client ran for cover Kingsley-Heath struggled on to his elbows to get clear.
"Too late," he recalled, "the lion was upon me, I smelt his foul breath as, doubling my legs up to protect my stomach, I hit him in the mouth with my right fist as hard as I could. His mouth must have been partly open as my fist went straight in."
With a single jerk of its head, the lion broke Kingsley-Heath's right arm; as he punched it with his left fist, the lion bit clean through his left wrist, breaking the left arm and leaving the hand hanging by its sinews. Next it clamped his foot in its jaws, crushing the bones in it by twisting his ankle.
One of the gunbearers arrived, threw himself on the animal's back and stabbed it repeatedly with a hunting knife. With Kingsley-Heath's foot still locked in its mouth, the lion was finally shot dead. The client reappeared, and with his rifle blew the creature's jaws apart so that Kingsley-Heath's foot could be removed.


Recovering in 1961



"I was bleeding heavily ... shaking uncontrollably, felt cold, and was likely to lose consciousness," he wrote later. "I knew that if I did so, I might die." Instead, after an agonising and protracted medical evacuation, followed by surgery and a bout of malaria, he eventually recovered.
Peter John Kingsley-Heath was born in Jerusalem on December 4 1926, the son of Col AJ Kingsley-Heath OBE, formerly Commissioner of Police and sometime Attorney General of Kenya.
After attending Monkton Combe School, Bath, he joined the Welsh Guards and was commissioned at 18. Towards the end of the Second World War, when he was a serving captain, he was injured by bullet in France; he was later wounded by a landmine in Palestine.
After the war he returned to study History and Law at Trinity College, Cambridge, and Economics at London University. A hockey blue at Cambridge, he was subsequently capped for England and regularly played rugby for Blackheath.
Kingsley-Heath was appointed a Colonial Service district officer in Tanganyika, and then, in 1949, to the East Africa High Commission in Kenya. In this capacity he travelled extensively in Kenya, Tanganyika, Uganda, Somaliland, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan and Arabia, as both an administrator specialising in desert locust control, and as an honorary game warden. The most lethal animal that he encountered at this, or any time, was the hippopotamus; indeed a fellow district officer was lucky to survive being bitten in the buttocks after straying between a mother and her calf. "He made a full recovery," noted Kingsley-Heath, "but I am told he walked like a sailor thereafter."
Throughout his hunting career Kingsley-Heath saw no contradiction between legal big-game hunting and conservation. "For much of the period, game animals were plentiful everywhere," he noted, adding that his conscience never bothered him. "My hunting was done in accordance with the laws of the land and permissions were based on facts that supported wildlife policies." When, in 1978, it became clear that growing human populations were endangering game stocks, he stopped. "It was time to make a change, and I did so."
Until then, however, Kingsley-Heath's life had seemed composed of a series of Boy's Own Paper adventures.
In 1956, before Kenyan independence, he was befriended by Syd Downey, who invited him to join Ker & Downey Safaris, the luxury tour operators. Kingsley-Heath became a director, responsible for opening the company's offices in Tanganyika and for making a survey of wildlife potential in Bechuanaland (Botswana) and Mozambique.
As his reputation grew he was hired to accompany many famous people on safari, and to manage wildlife on the films Hatari (1962), starring John Wayne, and Sammy Going South (1963) with Edward G Robinson. Kingsley-Heath's task on the latter was "to arrange for a charging, snarling leopard full into the camera at point-blank range and for all thereafter to be safe and happy, including the leopard." The cameramen, understandably, were "petrified", but after three "takes" (including one in which a wild leopard smashed the lens off the camera) the footage was secured.
In 1964 Kingsley-Heath joined another company, Safari South, in Bechuanaland, playing a major part in the development of tourism there. The work required an him to make an annual overland migration with men and equipment south from Nairobi along 2,158 miles of dirt tracks to Francistown. The voyage included many tricky moments, including the ferrying of a 10-ton supply truck across the Zambezi on a rickety barge. The crossing was, Kingsley-Heath noted, "a time for prayer".
Over the next 14 years he survived perilous near-misses with every member of Africa's so-called "Big Five" – lion, leopard, elephant, buffalo and rhino. Perhaps his most bizarre adventure occurred in Kenya, near the Galana river between Nairobi and Mombasa. It was there, in 1967, that Kingsley-Heath and a client were tracking a bull-elephant "carrying good ivory". Once the elephant had been killed, the client and a gunbearer leant back against the trophy only to feel it shift behind them. Wordlessly, they looked around to find a rhino nudging up against the body.
With nowhere to run or hide, the two men were forced to take refuge on top of the dead elephant where, to their horror, they were repeatedly charged by the rhino, a protected species that they were unable to shoot. Finally, as the elephant rocked back and forth under this assault, the client "could stand it no longer" and shot the rhino, forcing Kingsley-Heath to make a embarrassed call to the chief game warden. "Strange things happen, stranger than fiction," came the reply, but with photographic evidence of the multiple gore wounds in the dead elephant, their tale was believed.
Kingsley-Heath, with his wife Sue, decided to leave Africa in 1978. Having run 2,000 acres on the slopes of Kilimanjaro when not hunting (growing wheat and driving beef cattle through hundreds of miles of bush), they decided to try farming in England. Here they played a major part in introducing Texel sheep from the island of that name in Holland into the British national flock.
With the support of the Prince of Wales, Kingsley-Heath also developed a Cornish Lamb Consortium for Cornish farmers fighting against abattoir and supermarket price domination.
In 1990 he was asked to return to Africa, where he was appointed chief park warden of the Queen Elizabeth National Park in Uganda; he later became assistant director of national parks, staying for six years. He continued to lead safaris into his 80s, accompanied by his wife and in later years by his son Nigel, but their quarry on these occasions were photographs not trophies. Meanwhile, at home in Cornwall he planted his farm with thousands of trees to promote the natural wildlife around him.
In 1957 Kingsley-Heath won the Shaw and Hunter Trophy, awarded to the professional hunter who produces the finest trophy for a client. His book, Hunting the Dangerous Game of Africa, was published in 1998.
John Kingsley-Heath, who died on May 12, was the first to admit that he craved excitement from boyhood to the end of his life. "When my friends tell me that I have led a remarkable life," he reflected, "I have to admit having done my best to make it so."

His wife and three sons survive him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/8583041/John-Kingsley-Heath.html

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Tony Charlton &
John Kingsley Heath

http://www.cmsafaris.com/professional-hunters-ph/buzz.htm


interesting old family pics:




Mother and John Kingsley-Heath with exceptional southern oryx from Angola.



Dad and PH John Kingley-Heath with lion.


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      #238403 - 29/11/13 07:12 PM

Thank you for sharing these remarkable old pictures!

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      #238406 - 29/11/13 09:25 PM

my pleasure

thats a highly interesting collection of pics
http://colnagorider.smugmug.com/Other/Af...6&k=LbPtkRs

one of the most interesting I have seen for a long time is this showing an addax
ultra rare

Elgin Gates, left, with addax from French Equatorial Africa, 1958.


also this



Dad and Elgin Gates with a Dama Gazelle.
http://colnagorider.smugmug.com/Other/Af...4&k=qSd4B7d



http://colnagorider.smugmug.com/Other/Af...2&k=Jj38fGp

anyone knows who this gentleman is? wonderful historical documents now



http://colnagorider.smugmug.com/Other/Af...7&k=RQqk2JG

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      #238420 - 30/11/13 05:58 AM

Well done and many thanks for posting the pictures, Mr O'Connor!

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Thanks for posting all these "new" photos.

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      #238590 - 03/12/13 07:51 AM

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White Rhinoceros taken in Faradje, Congo Belge by Herbert Lang, 1912
log-images/835221/gd/135336092914.jpg[/url]




Does anyone else think this is a black rhino? Isn't the head kind of disproportionately small for a white rhino?



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      #238908 - 07/12/13 03:56 AM

portuguese soldier's in angola 1974 http://zala.fotosblogue.com/r1503/A-CACA/













and this is also africa

italien soldiers with hares in Adigrat, Etiopia, 02/10/1935 - 31/12/1935


http://www.lombardiabeniculturali.it/fotografie/schede/IMM-3g010-0011987/




http://www.lombardiabeniculturali.it/fotografie/schede/IMM-3g010-0011986/




http://www.lombardiabeniculturali.it/fotografie/schede/IMM-3g010-0011984/

advertising poster for Henkel trocken, a german champagne



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      #241581 - 02/02/14 06:13 AM



http://news.fr.msn.com/m6-actualite/diaporama.aspx?cp-documentid=153808023&page=12





looks like east africa in the 1920s




Deutsch Ostafrika- the man behind the camera




http://www.jrank.org/history/pages/8365/Looking-At-KENYA.html



http://www.gadling.com/2012/01/02/ivory-poaching-on-the-rise-thanks-to-asian-demand-and-a-legal-lo/



http://connecticuthistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/IvorytonZanzibarNatives1-e1358561219906.jpg




Elephant Tusks in the Ivory Store at London Docks ...




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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/13...by-Charles-Todd

British soldier with gazelles, 1916 Egypt

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      #243248 - 04/03/14 07:26 PM

hippo in Italian Somaliland



I wonder if elephants survive in somalia today



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from the book VITTORIO TEDESCO ZAMMARANO "IMPRESSIONI DI CACCIA IN SOMALIA" 1920











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now thats interesting a hunting guide for italian somalia printed 1957 by the italian colonial goverment








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      #243252 - 04/03/14 08:35 PM

Chipanga, Mozambique




french africa?


central africa




on the longone river, cameroun, tschad or central africa





brazzaville/congo








all pics found on delcampe.net








http://www.photos-vintage.fr/blog/index....age-post-mortem

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south africa before 1900

http://www.kettererkunst.de/kunst/kd/details.php?obnr=411002549&anummer=373



http://www.ronthomsonshuntingbooks.co.za/
"In my opinion, Ron Thomson is one of the greatest wildlife, conservation and hunting writers of our time".
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Ron Thomson has, on occasions, been described as a “Living Legend”. Others consider him to be a “Hunting Icon”. He commands the respect of hunters when they talk about him and when he talks to them. See his awards.
He has the kind of African “Big Five” hunting experience that modern hunters can only dream about. Furthermore it was conducted during a colonial period in Africa that is now long gone. Nobody now has any chance of replicating what Ron has achieved. All this hunting was conducted under totally fair-chase and free-range conditions, and in wild habitats where the animals could escape beyond the horizon.
Throughout his professional life Ron Thomson was a game warden in one or another of Africa’s national park organizations – mostly in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe). In Rhodesia, his big game hunting experience grew out of government’s need to employ him, and others like him, to carry out problem animal control work – on leopards, lions, hippo, buffalo and elephant – wherever these animals were in conflict with man. Ron and his supporting capture team also captured on foot, using conventional hunting techniques - but with only a dart gun in his hands - 140 black rhinos.
After twenty-four years of service in Rhodesia’s National Parks there was no other game ranger in the country who had expended more years hunting big game animals, who could better Ron’s hunting scores or who could challenge his supremacy.
He is a university trained ecologist and, for twenty years, was a Chartered Biologist for the European Union. He still writes books and articles explaining to the general public the principles and practices of sustainable nature conservation. In this regard he has been called ‘a visionary’.
Those who listen to him talk about wildlife management understand immediately that he has a great and avant-garde understanding of his subject. When he tells his big game hunting stories nobody is left in any doubt that this man has, indeed, an almost impossible-to-understand breadth and depth of experience. And, if one listens carefully you come to understand, too, that during the years when he was active, he developed a very special and unique hunting skill that few hunters ever achieve.
Altogether Ron Thomson has more than 50 years of hands-on experience in wildlife management, national park administration and African big game hunting. He is also one of those unique people who has both extensive hands-on field experience and a thorough understanding of the science of his profession.
Join us now and share with us his big game hunting adventures.

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      #248561 - 06/06/14 08:57 PM

leopard inn gabun






soldiers 1st Marine Infantry Parachute Regiment hunting with FR 1 sniper rifles


1980 central africa









1981 gabun






http://www.amicale8rpima.com/pages/photos-souvenir-amicalistes/1-compagnie.html

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      #248562 - 06/06/14 08:58 PM

I think I am going to be kept busy having a look at a lot of these. Thanks.

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A hunting party with a buffalo. (L to R) Oom Joos, Michael and Boet Odendaal, Tom Hughes






John and Harry Selby after an end-of-season elephant hunt, November 1975





Harry Selby's safari in East Africa with Robert Ruark








John after an elephant hunt, 1975


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      #250169 - 08/07/14 05:28 AM

thanks a lot Lancaster

Incredible pictures,

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This was taken in Rwanda, Central Africa in 1920. Prince Wilhelm of Sweden—little brother of the Crown Prince—set out on a zoological expedition to the jungles in the center of the Dark Continent to collect specimens of wildlife for scientific purposes. Rwanda was a part of Belgian Congo and the entire colony was the personal property of King Leopold of Belgium, making him one of the biggest landowners of all time. Despite the blue blood in his veins, it took a while for the Prince to get through all of the red tape and special permission from the Belgian colonial authorities to kill 14 gorillas. “One on each volcano,” as the license stated.

A huge entourage of field biologists, hunting friends, local bearers, and even a movie photographer followed the Prince on this hunting adventure (aka scientific expedition), and they managed to collect hundreds of samples of the wildlife that crossed their path. Wilhelm did most of the collecting with the magnificent Rigby Mauser leaning against the silverback in the photo.

http://www.petersenshunting.com/2013/09/...ily+Newsletters





Shotgun – pith helmet and gummy boots




Posing with the hunting trophy
Congo
Photographer unknown
Jacques Coppens standing right
Found in Oostakker

https://marcdeclercqcollection.wordpress.com/tag/congo/


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Osa Johnson on a zebra in Kenya in 1930.



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      #251104 - 27/07/14 08:53 AM

John - Aren't you describing Beryl Markham?

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Quote:

John - Aren't you describing Beryl Markham?



Oops! Yes. A brain freeze I think. The magic of the net allows me to fix it!

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      #251433 - 02/08/14 04:54 AM

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,263709132,var,album-chasse-Mozambique-GUSTAV-GUEX-1955-Marromeu-Afrique-23-photographies-quot;sepiaquot;-photos-fotos-tous-les-scans,language,E.html
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Quote:

Quote:

John - Aren't you describing Beryl Markham?



Oops! Yes. A brain freeze I think. The magic of the net allows me to fix it!




Never mind John.

For sure I know which game I'd prey upon

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      #252712 - 26/08/14 01:03 PM

french Congo http://soleilducongo.blogzoom.fr/809087/Page-21-Photos-serie-20/



































belgian Congo 1952

http://www.congo-1960.be/enfantfr.htm







1950 rainforest buffalo
http://voyage-congo.over-blog.com/photo-2013661-chasse-buffle-congo-chasseurs_jpg.html
















1951 french Congo
http://voyage-congo.over-blog.com/photo-1793207-baobab-brazza-jandon_jpg.html#start



















1950
http://voyage-congo.over-blog.com/photo-1958701-djeno-1-plage-bretonne_JPG.html#start















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      #252903 - 29/08/14 02:34 PM

Captain Duquesne, of the Boer Army, shoots a Black Rhino, circa 1900



Roosevelt's 1909 hunting trip


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hunter


french congo





http://voyage-congo.over-blog.com/article-congo-animaux-chasse-117770852.html


deutsch südwest schutztruppe on camels




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      #252912 - 30/08/14 12:59 AM

Thanks a lot Lars, always captivating pictures.

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      #252945 - 30/08/14 01:51 PM

LEPLAE Edm."LES GRANDS ANIMAUX DE CHASSE DU CONGO BELGE" ( big game hunting in the belgian congo)
Brussels 1925 http://www.2ememain.be/livres-bd/livres-anciens/histoire/les-grands-animaux-chasse-du-188113082.html








belgian congo 1950s
belgian para survival training





http://marcparacommandobelge.e-monsite.com/pages/operation-survie-congo.html


Dar Es Salaam 1900



french congo


http://www.africa-onweb.com/pays/congo/photos-cartes-postales/cpa-congo-chasse-peche.htm




=12543&language=F&sortByForm[sort]=price_present_DESC&page=1&useAsDefault=N]http://www.delcampe.fr/items?catLists[0]...;useAsDefault=N


belgian congo



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/059/534/685_001.jpg



http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%...CIcBEK0DMCs4rAI

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      #256755 - 15/11/14 03:27 AM

trophy showroom for the convention of the german colonial society 1903



http://www.memoiresperdues.de/colonial-programm/

deutsch ostafrika






http://www.app-in-die-geschichte.de/documents/2785

deutsch ostafrika

http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%...ved=0CCAQrQMwAA




british east africa


http://footage.framepool.com/shotimg/414...rika-zielen.jpg

deutsch ostafrika

http://www.haeckel-foto.de/sites/default...g?itok=kUsA9s72

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I think its Zanzibar



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http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/281/481/571_001.jpg

north africa


http://images.delcampe.com/img_large/auction/000/211/657/588_001.jpg

somewhere on the longone river


http://images.delcampe.com/img_large/auction/000/205/705/886_001.jpg

Tschad


http://images.delcampe.com/img_large/auction/000/186/532/162_001.jpg

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bird hunting on the logone river chad or cameroon
http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/205/705/721_001.jpg



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http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI4MFg5NjA=/z/ytYAAOxyOMdS9mO0/$_57.JPG

algeria http://fse.castanet.free.fr/85-hallalichasse.html






















algeria 1909



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had it before but here in abetter quality



http://suzanne.granger.free.fr/panthere.html

algeria 1930


http://algerie-avant-62.over-blog.com/20...nnees-1930.html


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Such great photos, get lost in daydreaming in this thread..

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Cameroonians now badly miss the French. At that time every gunbearer had a mobile phone for free.

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...oui Ahmadou my patron the infallible monsieur Fusil got 54 so heating up the grill ...oui we will be there in a hour...




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Funny Guys both !

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somalia 1960
http://www.etudes-augias.com/photobook/008/008.htm
























drinking buffalo blood


somalia 1937


http://www.fotofamilia.it/xSearch-fl/?query=IL0000004708&f=id


somalia pre war
http://www.ebay.it/itm/271359390300?clk_rvr_id=804821766270&rmvSB=true



somalia 1939





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The hunting and subsequent skinning of a Hippo, Mali 27 years ago. Mali means “hippopotamus” in the African Bambara language. Now different News are coming from Mali

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Is that a head of a dog on that plaque?
The other dog is thinking "WTF!!"

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Is that a head of a dog on that plaque?
The other dog is thinking "WTF!!"



It struck me too. These colonial frenchies were a funny lot but to this point?
I suspect that a hunter was so in love with his deceased dog that it seems normal for him to display it for a group picture with its former pals???????? The whole pack is reunited.

loonies.

I don't want to slander, but for sure most of the colonisers in Australia, US, Canada, India Africa were characters in every senses of the term.

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The other dog is thinking "WTF!!"



Even though I want to remember my doggie friends for ever, taxiderming them and seeing them like that would be too sad for me. I want to remember them full of life.

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The other dog is thinking "WTF!!"



Hmmmmm, there is a story behind that. The mind boggles at the possibilities.

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Carl Johann Rehfus-Oberländer (1855 bis 1926)
author of " Eine Jagdfahrt nach Ostafrika" hunting trip to east africa
illustrations by Wilhem Kunnert
https://archive.org/details/einejagdfahrtna00obergoog



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Quote:

Quote:



Is that a head of a dog on that plaque?
The other dog is thinking "WTF!!"



Even though I want to remember my doggie friends for ever, taxiderming them and seeing them like that would be too sad for me. I want to remember them full of life.




They were characters. The moulds are definitely broken as we say back here.

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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:



Is that a head of a dog on that plaque?
The other dog is thinking "WTF!!"



Even though I want to remember my doggie friends for ever, taxiderming them and seeing them like that would be too sad for me. I want to remember them full of life.




They were characters. The moulds are definitely broken as we say back here.



It is a term used here as well... I don't think that it is a country saying... more based on the 'Old Age' of the person remembering the saying that's why we both know it

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http://www.wildlife-baldus.com/




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italian east africa AOI







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some screenshoots made from a doco made in 1956 about italien somaliland showing dozens of leopard skins for export










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Leopard skins belong to the past. Then there was no CITES and it was the wild dream of any lady to get a leopard coat. Now impossible and politically taboo.
Formerly tom was a vermin, now he's valueless. Thanks to its cunning, tom is still very present and keeping an ultra-low profile under any radars.


Last leopard's antics in Kruger Park

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http://cdn0.rubylane.com/shops/curioshop/col6668.1L.jpg

south africa




http://huntinginafricasafaris.com/wp-con...ica-safaris.jpg

south africa springbok hunt





http://www.theexplora.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/SA-Springbok-Hunt.jpg


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      #271809 - 17/10/15 04:10 PM

I hope your are not shocked to much!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cecil-lion-shocking-pictures-reveal-6158818

"Cecil the Lion: Shocking pictures reveal a history of big game hunting

15:00, 29 Jul 2015
Updated 15:30, 29 Jul 2015
By Kirstie McCrum

There's been outrage over a hunter's slaying of Cecil the lion but the tradition of hunting has been around for as long as man
Getty 1961, Royal Tour to Nepal, A general scene during a Tiger hunt which Queen Elizabeth II attended




Queen's role: In a 1961 Royal Tour to Nepal Queen Elizabeth II attended a tiger hunt

The killing of much-loved lion Cecil has brought international condemnation of the American dentist who fired the fatal arrow.

But there is a history of big game hunting which spreads further than American tourists to Africa.

King Edward VIII of England and Queen Elizabeth II are two British royals who have been involved in big game hunt expeditions on their travels.

Pictures have been released showing some of the 43 registered animal kills by Cecil's shooter, father-of-two Walter Palmer from Minnesota.

Getty Man with hunting 'trophies', a photograph of a man surrounded by hunting 'trophies', taken by Roper for the Daily Herald newspaper on 6 January, 1938. The 'trophies' include a red-fronted




gazelle and an African buffalo, both shot on safari by King George VI (1895-1952), an avid hunstsman
Royal touch: Man with hunting 'trophies' taken by Roper for the Daily Herald newspaper on January 6, 1938 - they include a red-fronted gazelle and an African buffalo, both shot on safari by King George VI, an avid hunstsman




Collector's burden: American big game hunter Henry A Snow holds a Winchester M1895 rifle and squats by the mouthparts of an African savannah elephant. Snow collected over 150 mammals and 1,500 birds




Big game hunter Alejandro Siemel of Brazil pictured beside his hut in the jungle diplaying a collection of skins of jaguars that he had killed with gun and bayonet during a ten week holiday
Hunting break: Alejandro Siemel of Brazil pictured beside his hut in the jungle displaying a collection of skins of jaguars that he had killed with gun and bayonet during a ten-week holiday

But these images which capture Queen Ratna Rajya Lakshmi Devi of Nepal, King Edward VIII of England and even remind us of Queen Elizabeth II's 1961 Nepal trip which included a tiger hunt show that the rich and powerful have long been part of the hunting world.

Although cave dwellers were know to go on hunts, they were generally thought to be seeking food rather than trophies.

From the 19th century, Europeans began to look on big game hunting as something to bring back a souvenir from, with antlers, pelts, horns and more being displayed as a sign of their prowess.




Big killers: Coloman Jonas in The Denver Post-Glenwood Springs Lion Hunt, which starts March 18, 1932, shown in his office with the heads and pelts of "killers of three continents" slain by him




The Prince of Wales tiger shooting in Nepal, the Indian Tour, 1921. The future King Edward VIII and his entourage pose with a dead tiger. Illustration from George V and Edward VIII, A Royal Souvenir, by FGH Salusbury, a souvenir book published as Edward VIII was crowned following the death of his father, George V
King of the hunt: The Prince of Wales - future King Edward VIII - tiger shooting in Nepal, the Indian Tour, 1921



1969; Big-game hunter W. W. Robinson, surrounded by trophies of his African safaris, is the new chairman of the acquistions committee for the City Park Zoo
Big game: WW Robinson, surrounded by trophies of his African safaris, is the new chairman of the acquistions committee for the City Park Zoo in 1969

North American people undertook hunting for food and sustenance around the same period, but now wealthy residents are more often involved as Walter Palmer in a sort of 'sport'.

Safaris are run in African countries which allow access to the animals for hunters who pay the highest prices.

Palmer is believed to have paid £35,000 to shoot and kill Cecil with a bow and arrow.



1940-1949, Wife of the sportsman and herself a big game hunter; Mrs. Helen Lerner; who went along in the search for specimens; poses with a lion she shot in the African jungle. The trip through the African wilds was arduous.
Spousal trip: Wife of the sportsman and herself a big game hunter Mrs. Helen Lerner poses with a lion she shot in the African jungle sometime between 1940-1949



Big-game hunting in Africa: dead elephant. In the background: African hunting assistant. Photograph. Around 1935
African elephant: This 1935 picture shows hunter and assistant



1960: Queen Ratna Rajya Lakshmi Devi, wife of King Mahendra of Nepal, with a tiger she shot during a big game hunt in the jungle
A woman's power: Queen Ratna Rajya Lakshmi Devi, wife of King Mahendra of Nepal, with a tiger she shot in 1960

He has claimed he relied on professional guides to find a lion and obtain the necessary permits.

And professional hunter Theo Bronkhorst and farm owner Honest Ndlovu have been charged with poaching offences over the death.

Here's a handy guide explaining the legalities of big game hunting.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/legal-shoot-lions-rules-allowed-6158303
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      #273175 - 13/11/15 11:20 PM

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Grande-chasse-au-...%3D161201466710


tschad , maybe 1950s





























think this pics belong to the other
http://www.photos-vintage.fr/photos-anciennes-photos-de-collection/index.php?Afrique




















french congo
http://images.delcampe.com/img_large/auction/000/206/072/344_001.jpg





unknown
http://www.photos-vintage.fr/blog/index....age-post-mortem




http://images.delcampe.com/img_large/auction/000/205/705/947_001.jpg




http://catalogue.drouot.com/ref-drouot/lot-ventes-aux-encheres-drouot.jsp?id=1025697




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Whining is useless, he has lost his loincloth, Mama is going to spank him

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east africa

Blixen




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east africa

Blixen






Great photos and Blixen in the wide hat is always rememorable.

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http://avax.news/disgusting/Hunting_Fishing_2.html

http://avax.news/sad/Hunting_Fishing.html

http://avax.news/disgusting/Hunting_Fishing_3.html


David Farrar and Dana Andrews (1909–1992) stand over the slain carcass of a lion in a scene from “Duel in the Jungle”. The film was shot in Rhodesia and followed the investigation of a complex insurance fraud. Title: Duel In The Jungle Studio: ABP Director: George Marshall (Photo by Hulton Archive/Getty Images). 1954






Martin E Johnson (1884–1937) with a rhinoceros which he shot while filming “Trailing African Wild Animals”, a documentary made by Johnson and his wife Osa released by Metro Pictures Corporation. (Photo by Hulton Archive/Getty Images). Circa 1925





The Prince of Wales (1894–1972), later King Edward VIII, with the wildebeest which he shot at the Central Estates in Bulawayo, during a hunting trip to southern Rhodesia, 1925. (Photo by Central Press/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)




The Prince of Wales (1894–1972), later King Edward VIII, on a hunting trip to Africa, April 1930. (Photo by Fox Photos/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)



A hunter standing over a dead rhinoceros. (Photo by A Bayley-Worthington/Getty Images). 1895




A hunter with a rhinoceros he has killed. (Photo by A. Bayley-Worthington/Todd/Getty Images). Circa 1890





Hunters with a dead lion they have killed. (Photo by A. Bayley-Worthington/Todd/Getty Images). Circa 1890





A hunter has his foot on a dead rhino in a big game hunt in East Africa. (Photo by A. Bayley-Worthington/Hulton Archive/Getty Images). Circa 1895

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Ha ha, Do you get these photos from some anti sight that labels them as "sad" and "disgusting"?

We rave about these old pics in a positive manner, while obviously the bitter negative depressed leftie wallowing in self pity sees them as negtive and something to moan and feel bad about ....

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that makes the difference: I can go whereever they're but they cant go where I am

its the reason I am superior

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      #279236 - 13/03/16 03:41 PM

The captions are silly.
Throw in the words "dead" and "slain" as if they pass for creative literary embellishment.
I would like to see a PC bleeding heart lefty pose for a photo with his foot on a LIVE rhino!!

Amazing that this dead rhino sat around for 5yrs as a photo prop! They must have been running out of gruesome photos and figuring each rhino looks pretty much like another...

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A hunter standing over a dead rhinoceros. (Photo by A Bayley-Worthington/Getty Images). 1895




A hunter with a rhinoceros he has killed. (Photo by A. Bayley-Worthington/Todd/Getty Images). Circa 1890




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      #279240 - 13/03/16 04:26 PM

must be another rhino, the negro is not on his side anymore
but a good rifleman, allways hit the same point

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      #281759 - 30/04/16 03:46 PM

Carl Akeley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Akeley with the leopard he killed with his hands ethiopia 1896



in kenia




George Eastman (right) und Phil Percival on a expidition for the American Museum of Natural History



c.akeley after a elephant attack 1909




William R. Leigh und Arthur A. Jannson painting in the Lukenya Hills in Kenia 1926


c. akeley near the Tana river



James L. Clark working 1929 in the Serengeti on a diorama for the American Museum of Natural History




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      #284938 - 07/07/16 09:16 PM

the swedisch hunter allan lunderquist with a now extinct scimitar oryx shoot with a Schultz&Larsen in 7x61


rare trophy pic showing a scimitar oryx



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scimitar_oryx
"The scimitar oryx was hunted almost to extinction for its horns.[when?] Its population decline began as a result of major climatic changes that caused the Sahara to become dry. The northern population was already almost lost before the 20th century. The decline of the southern population accelerated as Europeans began to settle the area and hunt them for meat, hides and horn trophies. World War II and the Civil War in Chad that started in the 1960s are thought to have caused heavy decreases of the species through an increase in hunting for food.[5][25] Roadkill, nomadic settlements near waterholes (their dry-season feeding places) and firearms for easy hunting have also reduced numbers.[26"

you can believe it or not "The decline of the southern population accelerated as Europeans began to settle the area and hunt them for meat"
this animal was hunted for centurys this way




the firearm in the hand of locals is the main problem, political correct or not allmost ever its the native who exterminate like here rebels in libya "hunting" gazelles


http://observers.france24.com/en/20130201-libyan-militias-hobby-hunting-gazelles-poaching




sudan in the 1920-1930s
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/GTY_africa_trophy_hunting_1_jt_150731_4x3_992.jpg







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      #284944 - 07/07/16 10:42 PM

Good post as always. I thought the scimitar oryx still exists in Texas and possibly even Australia? (could be a similar species ?)

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      #284957 - 08/07/16 01:04 PM

What is the animal Hemingway is posing with in the first photo? The stripes at various places don't belong to anything I can think of. I used the twin of Hemingway's Griffin & Howe Springfield to kill two deer with last season. (Ignore the non original recoil pad!)

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      #284961 - 08/07/16 04:57 PM

yes, the scimitar oryx is not in danger because thousends living in texas and other places but its hard to find old pics from africa

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      #292352 - 20/12/16 08:42 PM

lion problems? buy yourself a walther pistol





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IT will be the LAST pistol you EVER buy..

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IT will be the LAST pistol you EVER buy..

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Well the last pistol you will ever use.

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Georges Riga &Co in Liege sell bimbo guns




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      #301663 - 12/06/17 01:38 AM

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Osa and Martin Johnson with their Model 95 Winchester(s), presumably in .405 Winchester.

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      #301665 - 12/06/17 03:38 AM

iirc you are right, wonder what the Win 95 in .405 makes for a Lady's rifle

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      #301669 - 12/06/17 04:39 AM

Considering the fact that Model 95's were made in other calibers: 7.62×54mmR, .303 British, .30-03, .30 Army, .30-06, .35 Winchester, .38-72 Winchester, and .40-72 Winchester, Osa may have used a caliber with milder recoil.

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      #301698 - 13/06/17 12:30 AM

The Johnson's armoury is listed on a thread here on the NE forums. Almost certainly a .405 Winchester but will see if I can look it up.

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      #301700 - 13/06/17 12:43 AM

Osa & Martin Johnson's Lake Paradise arsenal
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=57680&an=&page=0&vc=1

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Martin and Osa Johnson spent four years at "Lake Paradise" in Northern Kenya on the Eithiopian (then Absynnia) border. This was their second sojourn to the Lake to take photos and film of the wildlife.

They armed themselves with the following 'arsenal':

3 English Blands - .470 NE - double barrel
1 English Bland - .275 - Mannlicher action
1 American Springfield - .303 - Mauser action
1 English Rigby - .505 - Mauser action
3 American Winchesters - .405 - lever action
1 American Winchester - .32 - lever action
2 English Jeffrey's - .404 - Mauser action
1 American Winchester shotgun - 12g - repeating
1 American Parker - 12g - double barrel
1 American Ithaca - 20g - double barrel
1 American Ithaca - 20g - sawed off shotgun, called riot gun
1 .38 Colt revolver
1 .45 Colt revolver


Reference: "I Married Adventure" by Osa Johnson, 1940


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Interesting, no .30-06s?

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      #301711 - 13/06/17 09:34 AM

My guess is that American Springfield in "303" was really in 30/03 which was the forerunner of the 30/06 . I may be wrong but it would be unusual to find a springfield in a "303" (and they also have it listed as a "Mauser", I know they made some Mausers in 303?)
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My guess is that American Springfield in "303" was really in 30/03 which was the forerunner of the 30/06 . I may be wrong but it would be unusual to find a springfield in a "303" (and they also have it listed as a "Mauser", I know they made some Mausers in 303?)
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Yes, my thoughts exactly !

So Winchester .405 was a 95 & the .32 may have been a 92 in 32/20, for small game ?

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Yes it could be a .32 as well as that is listed.

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      #301732 - 14/06/17 01:46 AM

I would think the .32 Winchester Special in the Model 94 would be more useful in Africa.

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Quote:

Good post as always. I thought the scimitar oryx still exists in Texas and possibly even Australia? (could be a similar species ?)



Just finished up mounting my 2 types of Oryx.

Here is my Scimitar !

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James L. Clark working 1929 in the Serengeti on a diorama for the American Museum of Natural History







Those are very small lions!

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ernst zwilling

[image]





Herr Zwilling was a Doctor wasn't he? If so, I have a German language movie about his time in Africa.

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the swedisch hunter allan lunderquist with a now extinct scimitar oryx shoot with a Schultz&Larsen in 7x61


rare trophy pic showing a scimitar oryx



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scimitar_oryx
"The scimitar oryx was hunted almost to extinction for its horns.[when?] Its population decline began as a result of major climatic changes that caused the Sahara to become dry. The northern population was already almost lost before the 20th century. The decline of the southern population accelerated as Europeans began to settle the area and hunt them for meat, hides and horn trophies. World War II and the Civil War in Chad that started in the 1960s are thought to have caused heavy decreases of the species through an increase in hunting for food.[5][25] Roadkill, nomadic settlements near waterholes (their dry-season feeding places) and firearms for easy hunting have also reduced numbers.[26"

you can believe it or not "The decline of the southern population accelerated as Europeans began to settle the area and hunt them for meat"
this animal was hunted for centurys this way





I love the artwork over this door arch. I wonder where and what building this i?



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sudan in the 1920-1930s
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/GTY_africa_trophy_hunting_1_jt_150731_4x3_992.jpg







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IT will be the LAST pistol you EVER buy..

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Well the last pistol you will ever use.



Very funny advert and comments. One can see the advertising BS was weell and truy alive before the invention of the internet.

Maybe a Walther was good for keeping unruly and unco-operative 'natives' in order?!

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      #301778 - 15/06/17 04:15 PM

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Georges Riga &Co in Liege sell bimbo guns




1910




Other than guns for bimbos what is a "fire-stone"?

Bad translation perhaps for cartridges or perhaps the age of the advert was still in the transition between cartridge and muzzle loading firearms?

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Quote:

Good post as always. I thought the scimitar oryx still exists in Texas and possibly even Australia? (could be a similar species ?)



Just finished up mounting my 2 types of Oryx.

Here is my Scimitar !





Well done Sarg, Did you take this one in Texas? I would love to know what a hunt there costs? Perhaps PM me? Thanks.

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Other than guns for bimbos what is a "fire-stone"?

Bad translation perhaps for cartridges or perhaps the age of the advert was still in the transition between cartridge and muzzle loading firearms?



Judging from the other language versions "fire-stone" (German "Feuerstein" or "flint") meant "flintlock". However the French version says "percussion", which would indicate "cap-lock". In any event, "muzzle loading".

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      #301810 - 16/06/17 03:55 AM

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Georges Riga &Co in Liege sell bimbo guns





yes, I think bad translation

believe they meaning cheap shotguns made by reboring the old BP single shot rifle like the french Gras or the Mauser 71 and real flintlocks, old or new made for the african trade







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ernst zwilling

[image]





Herr Zwilling was a Doctor wasn't he? If so, I have a German language movie about his time in Africa.



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      #301812 - 16/06/17 04:25 AM

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I love the artwork over this door arch. I wonder where and what building this i?






Giraffe house Zoological Garden in Berlin, probably restored or new made after old pics if destroyed in WW 2 by Villeroy & Boch in 1986. could be the firm also that had made the original before the great war.
notice three are scimitar oryx but one is a addax antelope!







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      #301826 - 16/06/17 07:15 AM

Thank you, yes came out good, I just did some of the grunt work on it !

No this is Australian model, there was a herd or two in Aussie, dont know what happen to them now as Kevin who I did some work for passed away last year just before Matt, terrible year last year !

This was the biggest Bull I could find & have ever seen myself, he goes over 45in, there are some offered in South Africa at good prices some times, dont know the quality of the hunting experience how ever !

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      #302305 - 24/06/17 03:54 AM



africa orientale italiana

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rhodesia



south west



belgian congo

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cameroon and central africa
https://www.delcampe.net/fr/cartes-postales/afrique/republique-centrafricaine?f=sports:chasse





















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belgian congo

https://www.delcampe.net/fr/cartes-postales/afrique/congo-kinshasa?f=sports:chasse
























french congo

https://www.delcampe.net/fr/cartes-postales/afrique/congo-brazzaville?f=sports:chasse

































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      #319638 - 06/09/18 07:48 PM

Excellent Landcaster.

Thanks very much for posting these vintage snapshots and old photos. From an age long gone and being forgotten and being purposefully written out of history.

Looking at these photos and thoughts of the places and times, I again think I was born a hundred years too late. Making a big assumption of course, that if born a hundred years earlier I would have been in a position to partake!

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lion problems? buy yourself a walther pistol







IT will be the LAST pistol you EVER buy..

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Well the last pistol you will ever use.



Very funny advert and comments. One can see the advertising BS was weell and truy alive before the invention of the internet.

Maybe a Walther was good for keeping unruly and unco-operative 'natives' in order?!



this old advertisement for a 7,65 Browning/32 Auto Walther pistol got a lot of laughter

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      #322228 - 06/12/18 07:52 AM

just stumple about this fine old postcard


https://oldthing.de/AK-Chasse-a-la-Panth...pard-0032678739


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1937 AFRICA ORIENTALE ITALIANA

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/CARTOLINA-1937-A...0-/131695164605











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thanks very much lanc!!

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      #324352 - 07/02/19 04:52 AM

Schutztruppen soldier with carbine 88 in camerun 1906



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Cool photo.

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      #324548 - 11/02/19 08:53 PM

just see it now that this two pics make an interesting pair





french and german service carbine
it seems they had some value with the short length

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just see it now that this two pics make an interesting pair

french and german service carbine
it seems they had some value with the short length



Experience in thick equatorial jungles. Or in thorn bush jesse pretty much anywhere in Africa.

Also perhaps those very long rifle barrels on military rifles were perhaps becoming a thing of the past in the start of the Twentieth Century colonial era. IMO a left over from the long BP rifles and muzzle loaders of the past.

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      #336729 - 18/01/20 03:11 AM

"lion" kuhnert



















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      #336948 - 24/01/20 09:09 AM

Thanks Lancaster for bringing kuhnert pictures to our attention. I have a copy of his book , the animal art of William kuhnert.he was a great artist. I will re-acquaint myself with tonight

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looks like a nil croc and a winchester self loading rifle


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      #339984 - 11/04/20 12:10 AM

Very nice photographs and artwork. I like the pen & ink and the charcoal drawings - that is very nice artwork.

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not what it seems to be: Robert Koch(rigth) and Friedrich Karl Kleine dissect a croc 1906 on the Ssese islands in lake victoria looking for the patogen of the sleeping sickness

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      #340511 - 28/04/20 07:27 PM

Yes a very different photo. A medical scientific colonial era photo. Looking for sleeping sickness inside a crocodile. Would never have thought of looking for sleeping sickness in a croc.

What is the cause of sleeping sickness? Isn't it Tsetse flies? I assume they bite infected creatures and pass on the disease to humans?


A good photo for these times.

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Two German scientists on the shores of Lake Victoria in 1906; somewhat unusual?
Not really because Tanganyka (now Tanzania), Burundi and Rwanda were part of the German East Africa colony, from 1885 until 1919. Following WW1's outcome, Tanganyka was administrated by the British and Rwanda & Burundi by the Belgian.
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      #340525 - 29/04/20 02:17 PM

remember the cause of the sleeping sickness was completly unknown. they had diffferent suspects than and looking for everyone.

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remember the cause of the sleeping sickness was completly unknown. they had diffferent suspects than and looking for everyone.



Yes of course. The lands around Lake Victoria were known as a fever country, malaria and sleeping sickness.

The Tsetse fly has had some benefits. It has benefited wildlife in some regions, and meant cattle could not overpopulate such regions replacing wildlife. Botswana was one such country. Widespread aerial spraying was used to try to remove the tsetse flies. To allow increased cattle ranching.

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      #340569 - 30/04/20 05:41 AM

"Friedrich Karl Kleine joined the Prussian Army as a medical officer and came to the Institute for Infectious Diseases in Berlin, headed by Robert Koch, on January 15, 1900. As a medical officer, he took over the management of the infection department at the Institute for Infectious Diseases in 1901. He accompanied Koch from 1906 to 1907 on his research trip on sleeping sickness in German East Africa. He later traveled to the Belgian Congo. In Rhodesia he married his assistant Hanna Okelmann, who had worked as a laboratory assistant at the Koch Institute for years. From 1908 to 1914, Kleine directed the fight against African trypanosomiasis in German East Africa. Initially he worked in the eastern and north-eastern outskirts of Lake Victoria (Mwanza and Musoma). He also repeatedly examined the northwestern area around Bukoba. Finally, Kleine moved his main area of ​​work to the region around Lake Tanganyika because there were clearer signs of the existence of sleeping sickness. In 1911/12 he suggested the establishment of a microbiological institute in the Imperial Hospital (later Ocean Road Hospital and from 1996 "Ocean Road Cancer Institute") in Dar es Salaam, which was also established there in 1912. In April 1914 he took over sleeping sickness research in Cameroon. He was drafted into the protection force and temporarily served as chief physician there. At the same time, he acted as medical advisor to the governorate when the regular job holder Heinrich Werner was taken prisoner by the British. Kleine transferred to the neutral Spanish territory (Rio Muni) together with the command of the protection force in February 1916 and was interned in Madrid until the end of the war. The sleeping sickness researcher Karl Rösener, who was also interned in Spain, also worked with him in Cameroon.
Mostly Friedrich Karl Kleine, like his teacher Robert Koch, worked in the area of Lake Victoria and then in the region around Lake Tanganyika. His closest confidant in matters of sleeping sickness was the former military doctor Max Taute (later professor), who played a major role in researching sleeping sickness in East Africa. Under the guidance of Kleine, the first bacteriological institute was set up at the German hospital in Dar es Salaam in 1912, which, however, lost its importance for tropical medicine during the British colonial period. This old laboratory still exists at today's Ocean Road Cancer Institute as part of German-Tanzanian cancer research and control in Tanzania."

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      #345365 - 27/09/20 02:50 AM

belgian congo









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      #345382 - 27/09/20 10:41 AM

Top photo is of course one of the many studio portraits of Henry Morton Stanley "in Africa", with his 'boy' Kalulu I believe.

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this was a photo album from 1934-36 in tanzania















































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tstse fly camouflage




a rare hybrid between a horse and a zebra, arusha



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      #352848 - 29/04/21 05:10 PM

Thank you Lancaster; I thought that zebra could not be tamed and mounted, but this is obviously not the case! I love the photo of "coffee in style" on the train's last coach's platform.
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      #352854 - 29/04/21 08:04 PM

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Thank you Lancaster; I thought that zebra could not be tamed and mounted, but this is obviously not the case! I love the photo of "coffee in style" on the train's last coach's platform.
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Louis old boy, in the Empire we drink tea.



Now that is style.

I remember reading about taming and riding zebras. Yes it was done, but didn't work particularly well. Also I don't think they took the weight well at all. And were very skittish and flighty. More of a gimmick I think and not serious.

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Louis old boy, in the Empire we drink tea.




Assuming they are Brits! But they do look British.

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      #352867 - 30/04/21 12:02 AM

Nitrox, point well noted about tea but the photo about "tea/coffee in style" posted by Lancaster comes from a site called Feldgrau.info; I therefore suspect that if this photo refers to any Empire, then it should be the German one in Africa. And I am not sure that before WW1 German settlers or troops in Africa were avid tea-drinkers. But that's my thought only and only Lancaster may shed light on this tricky issue.
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Thank you Lancaster; I thought that zebra could not be tamed and mounted, but this is obviously not the case! I love the photo of "coffee in style" on the train's last coach's platform.
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Those fellows chose the wrong breed of zebra to tame. They should have gone for the Grevy's zebra, the largest of all wild equines:

[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/ee504/xausa/Africa/.highres/pix029_zpsaa42e058.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds[/IMG]

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      #352874 - 30/04/21 01:31 AM

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Nitrox, point well noted about tea but the photo about "tea/coffee in style" posted by Lancaster comes from a site called Feldgrau.info; I therefore suspect that if this photo refers to any Empire, then it should be the German one in Africa. And I am not sure that before WW1 German settlers or troops in Africa were avid tea-drinkers. But that's my thought only and only Lancaster may shed light on this tricky issue.
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      #352883 - 30/04/21 04:26 AM

they try it for some years to interbreed horse with zebra to get a pack animal for africa but get only some initial success. it stoped before the great war broke out.

the pics with the train looking like british east africa in the 1930s. you see which pics form a set.

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      #352910 - 30/04/21 04:54 PM

Thank you for the confirmation, Lancaster.
My apology, Nitrox, it's really Empire Tea, as you mentioned it; I should not have forgotten rule n°.1: "The Forum's Boss is always right"!
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Thank you for the confirmation, Lancaster.
My apology, Nitrox, it's really Empire Tea, as you mentioned it; I should not have forgotten rule n°.1: "The Forum's Boss is always right"!
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While tea would be more pukka, I would enjoy a good coffee in such a setting.

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      #352945 - 01/05/21 05:57 AM

would drink port

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      #353456 - 16/05/21 04:10 PM

not sure about it - the negros in clothes and the dog don't look african, maybe south america?
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      #353458 - 16/05/21 06:09 PM

Not sure, but may be Papua new Guinea ?

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      #353462 - 16/05/21 09:00 PM

it looks like sugar cane so a lot of south sea islands are possible.

question is what did they hunt?

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May be Rusa or Chital deer's; they were introduced at the end of the 19° at the beginning of the 20° century on New Guinea.

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Not sure, but may be Papua new Guinea ?



The boys look to be African Negro, not NG/South Pacific Melanesian.

The hat on the boy looks like Southern States of America and the dog looks like a doggo or similar breed, so maybe Cewntral or Southern America.

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      #353480 - 17/05/21 01:24 AM

There are old pictures from the german colonies of New Guinea. The black people from the german auxiliary troops don't look very typical melanesian.

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      #353500 - 17/05/21 10:58 AM

New Guinea Polizeitruppe, Friedrich-Wilhelmshafen 1899
They have Kar71 carbines stacked and an obsolete muzzle loading canon in the foreground.
Photo © Frankfurt University Koloniales Bildarchiv++



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      #353564 - 19/05/21 01:11 PM

On a previous page, not too far above the 'tea on the train' shot is a photo of three gentlemen standing around some rocks. The one on the right looks to be holding a nearly new Mauser Type B with a magnum action and a solid recoil pad. If this is correct, it must be in 8x75 mm caliber as that was the only Type B made on the magnum action and the only one with a recoil cross bolt as far as I am aware.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about the 8x75 rifles and the special range rifle.

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      #353565 - 19/05/21 01:57 PM


think you mean this pic?



notice the man in the middle before with the browning auto five(?)
I never see a 8x75 rifle for sale before, only know it from old cataloges. maybe kuduae have seen one.

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      #353570 - 19/05/21 06:24 PM

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There are old pictures from the german colonies of New Guinea. The black people from the german auxiliary troops don't look very typical melanesian.



having lived in the coastal and mountainous areas of PNG I can say they are not from PNG. Not aware of the Germans bringing Africans or similar to PNG. Being not aware of it does not mean they didn't.

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      #353575 - 19/05/21 09:29 PM

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it looks like sugar cane so a lot of south sea islands are possible.

question is what did they hunt?



Bamboo or riverine / jungle high reeds / "cane" grass.



question is what did they hunt?

My guess is hunting pigs with the dog.

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      #353579 - 19/05/21 10:17 PM

Hi Lancaster, that's the photo.

I hadn't noticed the A-5 earlier. I don't know why two men would be carrying rifles and the other a shotgun - maybe just a staged photo?

As to the location of the shot, those rocks are likely still there wherever it is.

As to the Mauser, I guess the question is whether it's a magnum action. Seems so to me but it's very hard to tell from photos (for me). If it's not a magnum action, it could be a 9.3x62 or 10.75x68. The cartridge belt appears in the photo but is of no help unfortunately.

Speed notes that there are records of 6 Mauser B's in 8x75 being delivered to 'customers' in southwest Africa in the 1930's, seeming to imply that those are the only records of original Mauser sporting rifles in that caliber. Not sure what he means by southwest Africa and why he didn't name the country. Modern day Angola, Namibia? Botswana or the western part of South Africa?

It seems there were no cheap rifles built in 8x75 - only original Mausers or other very high quality German arms.

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      #353581 - 19/05/21 11:06 PM

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There are old pictures from the german colonies of New Guinea. The black people from the german auxiliary troops don't look very typical melanesian.



having lived in the coastal and mountainous areas of PNG I can say they are not from PNG. Not aware of the Germans bringing Africans or similar to PNG. Being not aware of it does not mean they didn't.



What do you think? Amy chance of the Moluccan Rusa deer hunting on the Bensbach Plains and similar places every re-opening again?

Did you ever do any hunting in PNG?

Maybe start up a new thread, if you wish to answer in detail.

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      #353582 - 19/05/21 11:13 PM

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Hi Lancaster, that's the photo.

I hadn't noticed the A-5 earlier. I don't know why two men would be carrying rifles and the other a shotgun - maybe just a staged photo?

As to the location of the shot, those rocks are likely still there wherever it is.

As to the Mauser, I guess the question is whether it's a magnum action. Seems so to me but it's very hard to tell from photos (for me). If it's not a magnum action, it could be a 9.3x62 or 10.75x68. The cartridge belt appears in the photo but is of no help unfortunately.

Speed notes that there are records of 6 Mauser B's in 8x75 being delivered to 'customers' in southwest Africa in the 1930's, seeming to imply that those are the only records of original Mauser sporting rifles in that caliber. Not sure what he means by southwest Africa and why he didn't name the country. Modern day Angola, Namibia? Botswana or the western part of South Africa?

It seems there were no cheap rifles built in 8x75 - only original Mausers or other very high quality German arms.



I would like to hear more about the 8x75, perhaps in a Mauser forums new thread? So it is based on the .404 Jeffery, or the German version the 10.75x73. How doe sit compare ballistically to the 8x68S? Which came first? etc.

Edited: Or is it based on the 9.3x74R as is the 8x75R? Which would be lesser ballistically than a case based on the .404.


Interesting the 8x68S can use the same bolt head as the .404 Jeffery. I have never looked at case dimensions to see how different or similar they are.

As for South West Africa and why a country was not named, Speed does! German South West Africa was the name of the German colony, then South African SW Africa before it became Namibia.

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      #353584 - 19/05/21 11:24 PM

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As to the Mauser, I guess the question is whether it's a magnum action. Seems so to me but it's very hard to tell from photos (for me).



That is a standard length action.
You see the cross bolt is roughly in the middle of the receiver ring. That means that the recoil lug under the ring is forward of that.
Cross bolts on magnum length actions are pretty much even with the rear of the receiver ring as the lug is also back farther under the ring.

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      #353585 - 19/05/21 11:45 PM

Thanks Huvius. I see it now looking at photos of .404 and 8x75 rifles in the Speed book as compared to 9.3x62 etc. Bummer though because it means the rifle in the photo is not one of the six!

Is there any way to tell a magnum action from a photo like this where the rifle does not have a cross bolt?

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      #353586 - 19/05/21 11:47 PM

Thanks Nitro for the SW Africa info. I was not aware.

Wonder who those 1930's Mauser 'customers' were? German expats, dealers?

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      #353590 - 20/05/21 12:28 AM

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Is there any way to tell a magnum action from a photo like this where the rifle does not have a cross bolt?



Not very easily unless you can see the placement of the front action screw - where it screws up into the underside of the front ring. Of course knowing it’s a commercial action and not a military variant helps as well because some military actions have a long front ring that can trick you in old photos. Then the style of bottom metal helps if you can clearly see that.

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      #353592 - 20/05/21 02:14 AM

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Wonder who those 1930's Mauser 'customers' were? German expats, dealers?


There is still a minority of ethnical Germans, about 22 000 or 1% of the population, living in Namibia. Most of them are farmers (ranchers in American parlance), but many commercial operations are still owned by Germans too. The cultural and economical influence of the Namibia Germans far exceeds their numbers. Most of the families settled there way before WW1 when the country was still Deutsch Südwest. Those Mausers were probably imported by Rosenthal’s in Windhoek, still the largest gunshop in the country.

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      #353596 - 20/05/21 03:33 AM

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I would like to hear more about the 8x75, perhaps in a Mauser forums new thread? So it is based on the .404 Jeffery, or the German version the 10.75x73. How doe sit compare ballistically to the 8x68S? Which came first? etc.
Edited: Or is it based on the 9.3x74R as is the 8x75R? Which would be lesser ballistically than a case based on the .404.
Interesting the 8x68S can use the same bolt head as the .404 Jeffery. I have never looked at case dimensions to see how different or similar they are.


Apparently there is some confusion about two now obsolete cartridges shown in the 1934 DWM catalog. One is the 9.3x70, maybe developed by W.Brenneke, predecessor of the 9.3x64. This one was based on a shortened .404 case indeed. The catalog shows these ballistics: 231 gr at 2970 fps, 262 gr at 2890 fps, 285 gr at 2890 fps. So it was about 3% faster than the 9.3x64, but required a Magnum length action.
Then there was the 8x75, developed about 1910 by the Suhl gunmaker Burkhard Behr. This was the rimless version of the 8x75R, a necked down and “improved” 9.3x74R with the rim removed and an extractor groove added. Both the rimmed and rimless versions were offered in I = .318” and S = .323” bullet sizes. Maximum 1934 S ballistics: 164 gr at 2979 fps, 185 gr at 2959 fps, 227 gr at 2724 fps. So it was about 10% slower than the later 1940 RWS 8x68S.
Both cartridges had a common disadvantage: both needed true Mauser magnum length actions, much more expensive pre-WW2 and unobtainable after. This is why production was not resumed postwar.
BTW, the base of the .404 is markedly larger, 13.8 mm or .543”, than that of the 8x68S, 13.3 mm or .524”.

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      #353619 - 20/05/21 03:17 PM

Thanks Kuduae.

Is the 9.3x64 also based on the .404?

There seems to be a lot of German descended persons in Namibia. Most of those with white faces that I met there were German descended. Though the Afrikaans people probably blend in well.

In any case with only 2 million or so people in Namibia there aren't a lot of people resident. It being mainly desert. It is IMO one of the nicer African countries and so far seems to be relatively politically stable and no looney blackshit crazy. Not yet anyway.

KarlS, Karl Stumpfe a member here who I hunted with in Namibia is German descended.

Jofie Lamprecht is another German descended PH there, the Lamprecht family being well established land owners and outfitters.

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      #353623 - 20/05/21 08:39 PM

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There are old pictures from the german colonies of New Guinea. The black people from the german auxiliary troops don't look very typical melanesian.



having lived in the coastal and mountainous areas of PNG I can say they are not from PNG. Not aware of the Germans bringing Africans or similar to PNG. Being not aware of it does not mean they didn't.



What do you think? Amy chance of the Moluccan Rusa deer hunting on the Bensbach Plains and similar places every re-opening again?

Did you ever do any hunting in PNG?

Maybe start up a new thread, if you wish to answer in detail.

I would also love to hear of your experiences in PNG as well.



I was only a kid while up there so not too much to tell. What I did observe of the world while up there certainly influenced my knowledge of people, customs, beliefs and general view on life to some extent. This was back in the mid 60's.

Yes there was racism up there but there was also a lot of people who weren't but called a spade a spade and not a Fulcrum principled, manually operated piece of earth moving equipment.

Come to think of it I will start a thread on my days off next week. There are some funny tales and interesting observations.

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      #353672 - 22/05/21 02:54 AM

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Is the 9.3x64 also based on the .404?


No, all the cartridges discussed here have different base sizes:
8x75 is the “standard 8x57, .30-06” base, 11.94 mm = .470”
10.75x68 has the base of the Swiss 7.5x55 Schmidt-Rubin, 12.55 mm = 494”
9.3x64 Brenneke is 12.88 mm = .507”
8x68S and 6.5x68 are 13.2 mm = .520”
.404 and 9.3x70 are 13.82 mm = .544”

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Are these drinking chocolate or bean advertisements? ie cacao? In a tin or box?

if so, wow, imagine such advert illeustrations being used today.

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      #354338 - 14/06/21 02:53 PM

The two black fellows doing one leg ballet stands and wearing pink and blue tutus, Ha ha. I think they are meant to look like they are throwing a spear.

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      #354345 - 15/06/21 02:22 AM

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The two black fellows doing one leg ballet stands and wearing pink and blue tutus, Ha ha. I think they are meant to look like they are throwing a spear.



John, That is funny. I had to go back and look for those two fellows. They are both in sync but one has a spear and the other is empty handed. The bright colored tutus are hilarious. Thanks for pointing this out.

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      #354347 - 15/06/21 04:47 AM

thinking it was drinking chokolade, remember this are pics made before 1914
the artist hardly ever see with his own eye's what he painting

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      #354354 - 15/06/21 05:08 PM

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thinking it was drinking chokolade, remember this are pics made before 1914
the artist hardly ever see with his own eye's what he painting



The artist does a good job with the lions, elephant and horse.

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      #355160 - 15/07/21 05:21 AM

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      #355165 - 15/07/21 06:42 AM

Those are some great pics..thx for posting

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      #355191 - 16/07/21 05:15 AM





the mauser rifle here looks very big, maybe the askari having it on the shoulder was only a boy then

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      #355193 - 16/07/21 07:18 AM

I also noticed the size of the rifle. I've already thought about which caliber it is. The photo doesn't seem to me to come from the german colonial times, rather later. Therefore some cartridges could be considered.

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      #355196 - 16/07/21 07:44 AM

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The two black fellows doing one leg ballet stands and wearing pink and blue tutus, Ha ha. I think they are meant to look like they are throwing a spear.



I took them to be running to get within spear range. No idea what they thought the unarmed bloke was doing.

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      #357743 - 31/10/21 04:58 AM

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      #359870 - 31/12/21 06:19 PM

what would you say, nice vintage safari room?






was a room in the one-two-two
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Osa & Martin Johnson's Lake Paradise arsenal
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Martin and Osa Johnson spent four years at "Lake Paradise" in Northern Kenya on the Eithiopian (then Absynnia) border. This was their second sojourn to the Lake to take photos and film of the wildlife.

They armed themselves with the following 'arsenal':

3 English Blands - .470 NE - double barrel
1 English Bland - .275 - Mannlicher action
1 American Springfield - .303 - Mauser action
1 English Rigby - .505 - Mauser action
3 American Winchesters - .405 - lever action
1 American Winchester - .32 - lever action
2 English Jeffrey's - .404 - Mauser action
1 American Winchester shotgun - 12g - repeating
1 American Parker - 12g - double barrel
1 American Ithaca - 20g - double barrel
1 American Ithaca - 20g - sawed off shotgun, called riot gun
1 .38 Colt revolver
1 .45 Colt revolver


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My little grandson Barkly was busy making a mess pulling books off some "storage" shelves when I caught him, so after the usual scolding followed by giggles etc I began replacing the tired and dusty Wilbur Smiths, Tom Clancys, Alister Macleans and the like, and out pops a first edition of "Four Years in Paradise" by Osa Johnson!
Hard-bound with giraffe-hide pattern boards, and full of these marvelous B&W photos we love so much!

Not sure of the publication date, doesn't appear in the usual places, but the 'front matter' contains a delightful "Book Production War Economy" standard (lion reclining on a book) followed by the words "The typography and binding of this book conform to the authorized economy standard".
So some time between 1941, the date of an included correspondence, and the end of the war I guess.

No idea when or where I bought this book, or why I didn't read it at the time!

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      #361069 - 26/01/22 12:39 AM

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what would you say, nice vintage safari room?






was a room in the one-two-two
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-Two



Would be perfect. With a mademoiselle to help pull off my long leather safari boots.

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Good find.

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what would you say, nice vintage safari room?






was a room in the one-two-two
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-Two



Would be perfect. With a mademoiselle to help pull off my long leather safari boots.



For anyone not looking up the link, this is a theme room in a Paris brothel.

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      #361206 - 28/01/22 04:54 AM

so you can have a safari room that looks like a brothel now

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I have a safari house that looks like a brothel ...

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Has anyone been to the Osa and Martin Johnson museum in Kansas ? I have thought about driving up there just never have.
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Has anyone been to the Osa and Martin Johnson museum in Kansas ? I have thought about driving up there just never have.
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Long term member BFaucett is a Johnson "groupie". Do a search on member DFaucett and the key word Johnson.

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Old advertisement.

The original and first outfitter for Safar clients. Created in 1904 by Newland and Tarlton, in British East Africa now Kenya. Two Aussie ex-soldiers of the Boer War.

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Old advertisement.

The Norfolk Hotel of Nairobi. And the Victoria Hotel of Entebbe. THE places to stay in British East Africa - Kenya and Uganda.

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The place to get your sword, gun, tents, clothes and maybe razor for you safari!

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Philip Hope Percival. PH to Hemingway and others.

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Old advertisement.

The Norfolk Hotel of Nairobi. And the Victoria Hotel of Entebbe. THE places to stay in British East Africa - Kenya and Uganda.



Wow! Thanks for the attempt at non political discussion! Well done!

I haven't stayed at the "New Stanley Hotel" but have had lunch and dinner there. It is a popular or was? meeting place. Also had a message board to leave messages for other travellers on.

The New Stanley Hotel is a tall multistory hotel, had an outside cafe. In the middle of the urban city Central business district, no longer countryside by many decades.

Back in 1988. What is it now?

I wanted to go to Uganda back in 1988. Not long after Idi Amin. But was not able to. A couple of Kiwis I met on the Mombasa train were heading there soon after.

So never stayed at the Entebbe Victoria Hotel.

Another place in Nairobi to visit and stay is the Muthaiga Club. Both the Norfolk Hotel and the Muthaiga Club were THE places of Colonial Nairobi.

My club, the Naval and Military Club, currently a non person unvaxed member , used to have associate or reciprocal membership benefits with the Muthaiga Club. Able to stay there, the pool , tennis courts, golf?, restaurant etc etc. Alas I think it is no longer on the list.

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      #364229 - 02/04/22 11:24 PM

Sign me up for a full bag two month walking safari, 1904, please.


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The original and first outfitter for Safar clients. Created in 1904 by Newland and Tarlton, in British East Africa now Kenya. Two Aussie ex-soldiers of the Boer War.



The great Aussie outfitter firm in British East Africa. All the famous names were White Hunters for N & T in the early years.



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      #364238 - 03/04/22 04:50 AM

I think on day number two you have allready enough from walking and only wish a safari car

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      #364242 - 03/04/22 09:58 AM

Sign me up as well (if we get tired we’ll hire someone to carry us) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No walking like that for me. Now, horseback I can handle.

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      #364246 - 03/04/22 02:46 PM

I would have loved a walking safari not that long ago. Used to walk from 10 to 30 or 40 KMs a day once during hunts.

Nowadays two blackamatics and a sedan chair might be pleasant from time to time.

On some of these walking safaris they wore through at least one pair of boots.

In non sleeping sickness country horses were also used. Mules and donkeys pre conditioned for tetse might also be used.

Harder hunting on foot physically, game was probably less wary and certainly more numerous. Injured or sick, one might get buried out there. Though explorers such as Stanley and Livingstone often spent much time in a bearer borne litter.

The days of high adventure in Darkest Deepest Africa.

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A forgotten hunter

In the early 19th century there were two German naturalists, Robert, 1804 – 1865, and Richard Schomburgk, 1811 -1891. In British service, both explored Guyana from 1835 to 1844. Robert stayed in British service and was knighted “Sir Robert” by queen Victoria. Later he served as British consul in Siam. Several plants and animals are named for him, among them the now extinct Schomburgk’s Deer. Richard returned to Germany first, but emigrated to South Australia in 1849. In 1850 he planted the first vineyard in Down Under near Gawler and founded the Gawler Museum. Later he became director of the Adelaide Botanic Gardens.
Their great nephew Hans Schomburgk, 1880 – 1967, born in Hamburg, wanted to go to the African wilderness. In1898 his family sent him to South Africa to learn farming at a distant relative. Aged 17, he did not care much about farming. Pennieless, he joined the British Natal Mounted Police instead. In Natal he made his first small hunting trips and shot his first buffalo there, besides various plains game. He fought during the 2nd Boer War on the British side.
After the end of hostilities he had himself transferred to the Barotse Police in Rhodesia, right into the then wild Africa. As an officer he took part in some expeditions into the unknown to put the Zambezi – Congo watershed on the map as a possible border between Portuguese Angola and British Rhodesia. His hunting rifle from Natal to Rhodesia was a .303 Martini action single shot by W.W.Greener. Apparently he lost the foreend somewhere in the bush.

(All Photos are from his even dozen books, published in German only afaik)
The European outposts in that part of Africa were connected by oxen drawn express mail:

After their contracts expired by 1906 Hans and his friend McNeil decided to wander through uncharted parts of Africa and live as hunters on their own. First they ventured into Angola, still unoccupied by the Portuguese. His battery then consisted of his Greener .303 and a Westley Richards single shot in .450-400. (photo taken May 30, 1906, near Kafue river)

A photo shows one of his camps there with two buffalo and a giant sable skull:

A closeup of a 44” sable:

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A forgotten hunter

In the early 19th century there were two German naturalists, Robert, 1804 – 1865, and Richard Schomburgk, 1811 -1891. In British service, both explored Guyana from 1835 to 1844. Robert stayed in British service and was knighted “Sir Robert” by queen Victoria. Later he served as British consul in Siam. Several plants and animals are named for him, among them the now extinct Schomburgk’s Deer. Richard returned to Germany first, but emigrated to South Australia in 1849. In 1850 he planted the first vineyard in Down Under near Gawler and founded the Gawler Museum. Later he became director of the Adelaide Botanic Gardens.




Interesting. South Australia was only settled first in 1836. My ancestors arrived 1838 to 1839. 1849 was pretty early. Many of Adelaide's streets were named after pro intent German residents, Grenfell, Rundle, Grote, among others. Now anglicised pronunciation.

Schomburgk, the name I've heard of, either Australia or Africa, or both?

Gawler is between Adelaide and the Barossa.

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A forgotten hunter 2

In Angola Schomburgk met the then famous Danish elephant hunter Carl Larsen (one of the three .600 NE users mentioned by Truesdell). They became friends and Larsen taught him how to hunt the mighty elephant. In September 1906 Schomburg traded his .450-500 Westley Richards ss “and some cash” for Larsen’s .600 NE Jeffery.
A bit later photo of Schomburgk and .600 NE in central Africa when he had all his trousers destroyed by thorns:

Some game he shot with his .600 on his 1906 - 1909 way through Africa:



That was close!

He travelled through Africa, mostly on foot, constantly hunting for food, specimens and ivory. His trophies on the way to then German East Africa:


On his way, he got a .450 NE by i.Meffert, Suhl too. He also mentions a 9mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer. Finally he acquired an 8x57 Mauser, firing the then standard load of a 227 gr jacketed bullet at 2040 fps. From then on he shot all game, including buffalo, with the 8mm Mauser and used his .600 for elephant and rhino only. A map of Africa with Schomburg’s travels 1898 to 1909:

Two tusks at 180 pounds each:

In EastAfrica he caught several younf elephants and other animals for the Hagenbeck zoo, Hamburg.
In 1910 he returned to Germany for the first time and published his first book “Wild und Wilde = Game and Savages”
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Dedication and perseverance. Wearing out all your trousers.



Kuduae, please continue .

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A forgotten hunter 2

On his way, he got a .450 NE by i.Meffert, Suhl too. He also mentions a 9mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer. Finally he acquired an 8x57 Mauser, firing the then standard load of a 227 gr jacketed bullet at 2040 fps. From then on he shot all game, including buffalo, with the 8mm Mauser and used his .600 for elephant and rhino only. A map of Africa with Schomburg’s travels 1898 to 1909:

Two tusks at 180 pounds each:

In EastAfrica he caught several younf elephants and other animals for the Hagenbeck zoo, Hamburg.
In 1910 he returned to Germany for the first time and published his first book “Wild und Wilde = Game and Savages”
(To be continued)



Magnificent tusks, 180 lbs.

Looking at that map, what a safari.

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Prince Willhelm of Sweden (1884-1965), smoking a cigar after a succesful bull Gorilla hunt in the Congo, a. 1920.



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Karl III. von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg in Kenia



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Funny.

King Chuck to many of us.

Quite a German moniker he would have.

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looks like camel corps, maybe patrol the somali border then? don't know they had it still in this time.
was thinking patrol leader with a double rifle would fit here.

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looks like camel corps, maybe patrol the somali border then? don't know they had it still in this time.
was thinking patrol leader with a double rifle would fit here.



And it does.

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Bttt, just relooking at these images again on one huge page.

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Karl III. von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg in Kenia





Quote:

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looks like camel corps, maybe patrol the somali border then? don't know they had it still in this time.
was thinking patrol leader with a double rifle would fit here.



And it does.

I'm going to share it with your comment to FB. See what the reaction is.



Reaction was rather boring. Some Germans disagreed with that title and provided an alternative. All Deutsch to me!

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