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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #235246 - 07/09/13 05:13 AM

some things are only strange

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #235659 - 15/09/13 09:23 PM

Congo belge




what looks today as exploitation was maybe a very common and simple job then




ivory trade




Stanley and his servant kaluka 1873




a camel train reach Leopoldsvill in the 1890s, proabably coming from sudan, tschad or cameron


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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235679 - 16/09/13 04:10 AM

I was looking for a long time for a pic showing the use of the portuguese Kropatchek rifle in africa

not hunting but here it is




This picture is obtained from Jaime Regalado's book "Cuamatos 1907". A Kropatchek equipped artillery platoon, fired their Kropatchek rifles against the enemy. The artillery gun is a 70mm mountain gun mod.1882, with Krupp gun breech and Portuguese made barrel. This photo is made during the Angola campaign of 1907.

http://members.upc.nl/a.gelderen7/

our older south african members may recognise the landscape

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235709 - 17/09/13 04:58 AM

Lancaster

Real nice pictures, translation for the first pic : "Do as they do here"

I marvel at your gun culture, I am afraid that I never heard of the Kropatchek? From the sound I suppose that it's a Krupp rifle made in Czechoslovakia?

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #235734 - 18/09/13 03:33 AM

A Kropatschek is any variant of a rifle designed by Alfred von Kropatschek. Kropatschek's rifles used an tubular magazine (constructed of nickel-plated steel) of his design, of the same type used in the German Mauser Gewehr 1871/84 and the Japanese Type 22 Murata. While designed for black powder, the Kropatschek action proved to be strong enough to handle smokeless powder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kropatschek





you get them very cheap but the craftsman quality of this Steyr made rifle is better than most modern hunting rifles today. this is what we mean when talking about the good old times. this rifle was also made in 11x59r Gras for the french navy.
I never seen a sporter but there can be no doubt it have some history as a hunting rifle in angola and mozambique.

exellent video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhaY3pa1oio

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235925 - 22/09/13 12:40 PM



White Rhinoceros taken in Faradje, Congo Belge by Herbert Lang, 1912



Photo extraite de "Les merveilles du Congo belge" -auteur et éditeur inconnu

http://mac-gratuit.fr/site/dl/44/527807b43e.jpg


great pic with a M 88 sporting rifle


http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/019/624/164_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/143/641/129_001.jpg?v=1



post war but vintage now also





http://www.cegesoma.be/cms/acquisitions_en.php?article=677




http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/189/879/089_001.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/135336092914.jpg

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235926 - 22/09/13 01:22 PM



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_001.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128309765/Num-21.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128241425/Num-24.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128324265/Num-40.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/133563923032.jpg




http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131197758997/003aa.jpg



congo francais



http://www.azurs.net/carnet/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/chasseurs-de-buffle.jpg



http://www.africa-onweb.com/assets/components/gallery/files/84/3601.jpg

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235927 - 22/09/13 01:42 PM

still in belgian and french congo


























http://www.africa-onweb.com/pays/congo/photos-cartes-postales/cpa-congo-chasse-peche.htm

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235928 - 22/09/13 02:03 PM

AFRIQUE OUBANGUI-CHARI "La Croisière Noire" Trophées de chasse




http://photoinventory.fr/photos/EC3373.png



Tschad




http://www.ebay.fr/sch/Art-Antiquites-/353/i.html?cmd=Blend&_nkw=chasse+afrique&cmd=Blend






http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Grande-chasse-au-...=item25816acb17



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Chasse-au-TCHAD-P...=item25683b117d



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Grande-chasse-au-...=item2568491b42






http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Afrique-centrale-...=item256849d4ad



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Grande-chasse-au-...=item2568514bca



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Grande-chasse-au-...=item2568287e9d


somewhere in french africa




http://www.ebay.fr/itm/PHOTO-VINTAGE-193...=item4abdf60e58






http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Chasse-en-Afrique...=item256807b27e




http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Anonyme-56-K155-T...=item3a76d6d611

the boys



http://www.ebay.fr/itm/TCHAD-Porteurs-de...=item25684953a1

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235929 - 22/09/13 02:30 PM

another gorilla pic from the belgian congo



http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_002.jpg






http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/165/202/423_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_003.jpg

central arica



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/212/173/779_001.jpg?v=1






http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/143/925/076_001.jpg?v=3


BANGUI,CENTRAFRIQUE,A.E.F


http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/169/735/878_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/045/247/334_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/627_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/284_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/325_001.jpg

belgian congo



http://users.skynet.be/rahier.kilo.moto.congo.belge/congo%20%281%29.jpg

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235935 - 22/09/13 06:27 PM

unknown



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/172/009/316_001.jpg




http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/215/289/573_001.jpg

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #235937 - 22/09/13 07:01 PM

Lancaster thanks for posting. some excellent old photos there.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: Rule303]
      #235947 - 23/09/13 01:53 AM

V. nice vintage photos - thanks much!

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: poprivit]
      #235956 - 23/09/13 03:46 AM

thanks and there is much more
this is my favorite with a lot of character



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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #236024 - 25/09/13 05:02 AM

Lancasteer

That's incredible, your pics are so rare and precious that they could be edited in a single book . My respectuous congratulations.
Could I quote your posts and translate the french mentions?
For the last picture, this cocky guy is also figuring in a pic in Chad.
Hard to trace the depicted hunters. Most of them are either officers, or state employees or local bussinesmen. There has been PHs but clients were scarce, apart world class hunters.

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #236067 - 26/09/13 05:14 AM

larcher, any help is welcome

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #236108 - 27/09/13 01:19 AM

Quote:



PORTERCADE, IVORY FOR SALE

http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



THIS IS WHAT I DID AT NOON.. KINSHASSA STATION(Belgian Congo)

http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_thumb/auction/000/059/661/078_001.jpg



http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_001.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128309765/Num-21.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128241425/Num-24.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131128324265/Num-40.jpg



http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/133563923032.jpg




http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/835221/gd/131197758997/003aa.jpg



congo francais


FRENCH CONGO. CATHOLIC MISSION. BUFFALO HUNTING
“ THE TRIUMPH OF THE HUNTERS”

http://www.azurs.net/carnet/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/chasseurs-de-buffle.jpg



A NICE CATCH

http://www.africa-onweb.com/assets/components/gallery/files/84/3601.jpg




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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #236109 - 27/09/13 01:30 AM

Quote:

still in belgian and french congo


FRENCH CONGO BRAZZAVILLE . BACK FROM THE HUNT

FRENCH CONGO BACK FROM BUFF HUNTING

FRENCH CONGO . DISH OF THE DAY



HIPPO HUNT

A SMALL LEOPARD



HUNTING TROPHY. AN ANTELOPE

My comment, very rare Kudu , usually North of CAR


FRENCH CONGO KILLED CROC (with 2 spelling errors)

HUNTING CAMP. ANTELOPES

FRENCH CONGO BRAZZAVILLE. CATHOLIC MISSION. A TRAPPED LEOPARD
http://www.africa-onweb.com/pays/congo/photos-cartes-postales/cpa-congo-chasse-peche.htm




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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #236111 - 27/09/13 01:56 AM

Quote:

another gorilla pic from the belgian congo



http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_002.jpg





HIGHER SANGA .. GORILLA KILLED IN THE VILLAGE or KILLED GORILLA (displayed) IN THE VILLAGE ?
http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/165/202/423_001.jpg?v=1



http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/152/649/534_003.jpg

central aFrica


ELE HUNT, BAMINGUI RIVER (central North CAR)
http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/212/173/779_001.jpg?v=1



BACK FROM THE LION HUNT. SECOND CITROEN BLACK CRUISE


http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/143/925/076_001.jpg?v=3


BANGUI,CENTRAFRIQUE,A.E.F


http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/169/735/878_001.jpg?v=1


SECOND CITROEN BLACK CRUISE CAR. LION HUNT IN THE CAR

http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/045/247/334_001.jpg?v=1


PAOUA (CAR) ANTELOPES SHOT FOR FEEDING THE PORTERS IN THE “GREAT” BUSH
http://images-00.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/627_001.jpg?v=1


ANTELOPE SHOT IN PAOUA REGION

http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/284_001.jpg


PRIMITIVE ARM VS MODERN ARM
http://images-01.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/062/093/325_001.jpg

belgian congo



http://users.skynet.be/rahier.kilo.moto.congo.belge/congo%20%281%29.jpg




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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: larcher]
      #236118 - 27/09/13 03:04 AM

Thanks Lancaster and JB. Very interesting.

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      #238399 - 29/11/13 03:08 PM



John Kingsley-Heath with a stock-killing lioness he shot in Ethiopia

John Kingsley-Heath, who has died aged 84, ran African safaris for more than half a century, and as a big-game hunter survived many hair-raising encounters with the fiercest beasts of the bush.

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One such occurred in August 1961, when Kingsley-Heath was leading a private safari along the Kisigo river in Tanganyika. From inside a blind (a shelter for hunters), he turned to see a huge, maned lion crouching behind him not 15ft away. As it gathered itself to spring, Kingsley-Heath shot it, and the lion fled. He and his gunbearers gave chase and found the wounded creature lying on its side, breathing heavily.
Recovering in 1961
It was down, but not out. When Kingsley-Heath's client opened fire, the lion made a single bound of 22ft towards the two men. Kingsley-Heath dropped to the ground and smashed the barrel of his .470 rifle over the animal's head, breaking the stock at the pistol grip; the lion staggered. As his gunbearers and client ran for cover Kingsley-Heath struggled on to his elbows to get clear.
"Too late," he recalled, "the lion was upon me, I smelt his foul breath as, doubling my legs up to protect my stomach, I hit him in the mouth with my right fist as hard as I could. His mouth must have been partly open as my fist went straight in."
With a single jerk of its head, the lion broke Kingsley-Heath's right arm; as he punched it with his left fist, the lion bit clean through his left wrist, breaking the left arm and leaving the hand hanging by its sinews. Next it clamped his foot in its jaws, crushing the bones in it by twisting his ankle.
One of the gunbearers arrived, threw himself on the animal's back and stabbed it repeatedly with a hunting knife. With Kingsley-Heath's foot still locked in its mouth, the lion was finally shot dead. The client reappeared, and with his rifle blew the creature's jaws apart so that Kingsley-Heath's foot could be removed.


Recovering in 1961



"I was bleeding heavily ... shaking uncontrollably, felt cold, and was likely to lose consciousness," he wrote later. "I knew that if I did so, I might die." Instead, after an agonising and protracted medical evacuation, followed by surgery and a bout of malaria, he eventually recovered.
Peter John Kingsley-Heath was born in Jerusalem on December 4 1926, the son of Col AJ Kingsley-Heath OBE, formerly Commissioner of Police and sometime Attorney General of Kenya.
After attending Monkton Combe School, Bath, he joined the Welsh Guards and was commissioned at 18. Towards the end of the Second World War, when he was a serving captain, he was injured by bullet in France; he was later wounded by a landmine in Palestine.
After the war he returned to study History and Law at Trinity College, Cambridge, and Economics at London University. A hockey blue at Cambridge, he was subsequently capped for England and regularly played rugby for Blackheath.
Kingsley-Heath was appointed a Colonial Service district officer in Tanganyika, and then, in 1949, to the East Africa High Commission in Kenya. In this capacity he travelled extensively in Kenya, Tanganyika, Uganda, Somaliland, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan and Arabia, as both an administrator specialising in desert locust control, and as an honorary game warden. The most lethal animal that he encountered at this, or any time, was the hippopotamus; indeed a fellow district officer was lucky to survive being bitten in the buttocks after straying between a mother and her calf. "He made a full recovery," noted Kingsley-Heath, "but I am told he walked like a sailor thereafter."
Throughout his hunting career Kingsley-Heath saw no contradiction between legal big-game hunting and conservation. "For much of the period, game animals were plentiful everywhere," he noted, adding that his conscience never bothered him. "My hunting was done in accordance with the laws of the land and permissions were based on facts that supported wildlife policies." When, in 1978, it became clear that growing human populations were endangering game stocks, he stopped. "It was time to make a change, and I did so."
Until then, however, Kingsley-Heath's life had seemed composed of a series of Boy's Own Paper adventures.
In 1956, before Kenyan independence, he was befriended by Syd Downey, who invited him to join Ker & Downey Safaris, the luxury tour operators. Kingsley-Heath became a director, responsible for opening the company's offices in Tanganyika and for making a survey of wildlife potential in Bechuanaland (Botswana) and Mozambique.
As his reputation grew he was hired to accompany many famous people on safari, and to manage wildlife on the films Hatari (1962), starring John Wayne, and Sammy Going South (1963) with Edward G Robinson. Kingsley-Heath's task on the latter was "to arrange for a charging, snarling leopard full into the camera at point-blank range and for all thereafter to be safe and happy, including the leopard." The cameramen, understandably, were "petrified", but after three "takes" (including one in which a wild leopard smashed the lens off the camera) the footage was secured.
In 1964 Kingsley-Heath joined another company, Safari South, in Bechuanaland, playing a major part in the development of tourism there. The work required an him to make an annual overland migration with men and equipment south from Nairobi along 2,158 miles of dirt tracks to Francistown. The voyage included many tricky moments, including the ferrying of a 10-ton supply truck across the Zambezi on a rickety barge. The crossing was, Kingsley-Heath noted, "a time for prayer".
Over the next 14 years he survived perilous near-misses with every member of Africa's so-called "Big Five" – lion, leopard, elephant, buffalo and rhino. Perhaps his most bizarre adventure occurred in Kenya, near the Galana river between Nairobi and Mombasa. It was there, in 1967, that Kingsley-Heath and a client were tracking a bull-elephant "carrying good ivory". Once the elephant had been killed, the client and a gunbearer leant back against the trophy only to feel it shift behind them. Wordlessly, they looked around to find a rhino nudging up against the body.
With nowhere to run or hide, the two men were forced to take refuge on top of the dead elephant where, to their horror, they were repeatedly charged by the rhino, a protected species that they were unable to shoot. Finally, as the elephant rocked back and forth under this assault, the client "could stand it no longer" and shot the rhino, forcing Kingsley-Heath to make a embarrassed call to the chief game warden. "Strange things happen, stranger than fiction," came the reply, but with photographic evidence of the multiple gore wounds in the dead elephant, their tale was believed.
Kingsley-Heath, with his wife Sue, decided to leave Africa in 1978. Having run 2,000 acres on the slopes of Kilimanjaro when not hunting (growing wheat and driving beef cattle through hundreds of miles of bush), they decided to try farming in England. Here they played a major part in introducing Texel sheep from the island of that name in Holland into the British national flock.
With the support of the Prince of Wales, Kingsley-Heath also developed a Cornish Lamb Consortium for Cornish farmers fighting against abattoir and supermarket price domination.
In 1990 he was asked to return to Africa, where he was appointed chief park warden of the Queen Elizabeth National Park in Uganda; he later became assistant director of national parks, staying for six years. He continued to lead safaris into his 80s, accompanied by his wife and in later years by his son Nigel, but their quarry on these occasions were photographs not trophies. Meanwhile, at home in Cornwall he planted his farm with thousands of trees to promote the natural wildlife around him.
In 1957 Kingsley-Heath won the Shaw and Hunter Trophy, awarded to the professional hunter who produces the finest trophy for a client. His book, Hunting the Dangerous Game of Africa, was published in 1998.
John Kingsley-Heath, who died on May 12, was the first to admit that he craved excitement from boyhood to the end of his life. "When my friends tell me that I have led a remarkable life," he reflected, "I have to admit having done my best to make it so."

His wife and three sons survive him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/8583041/John-Kingsley-Heath.html

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      #238400 - 29/11/13 03:44 PM


Tony Charlton &
John Kingsley Heath

http://www.cmsafaris.com/professional-hunters-ph/buzz.htm


interesting old family pics:




Mother and John Kingsley-Heath with exceptional southern oryx from Angola.



Dad and PH John Kingley-Heath with lion.


http://colnagorider.smugmug.com/Other/Af...6&k=3mNnNjL




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      #238403 - 29/11/13 07:12 PM

Thank you for sharing these remarkable old pictures!

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      #238406 - 29/11/13 09:25 PM

my pleasure

thats a highly interesting collection of pics
http://colnagorider.smugmug.com/Other/Af...6&k=LbPtkRs

one of the most interesting I have seen for a long time is this showing an addax
ultra rare

Elgin Gates, left, with addax from French Equatorial Africa, 1958.


also this



Dad and Elgin Gates with a Dama Gazelle.
http://colnagorider.smugmug.com/Other/Af...4&k=qSd4B7d



http://colnagorider.smugmug.com/Other/Af...2&k=Jj38fGp

anyone knows who this gentleman is? wonderful historical documents now



http://colnagorider.smugmug.com/Other/Af...7&k=RQqk2JG

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      #238420 - 30/11/13 05:58 AM

Well done and many thanks for posting the pictures, Mr O'Connor!

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