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TomN
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T Wild Paradox 12 bore
#221906 - 19/12/12 05:57 AM

What can you all tell me about this maker and how much are they worth? I have been looking at one and its only about a 4 hour drive from me so I could go look at in person they want $6ooo for it would that be a fair price its a hammer gun and doim't now what it is loaded for other then 12 bore. Thanks Tom N

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500Nitro
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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: TomN]
#221907 - 19/12/12 06:05 AM

Worth the drive.

Thomas Wild, can't tell you where from.

Would be interesting to know if it is underlever or toplever.

I'd check BP or Nitro, although being hammer gun
more likely BP.

Check that the Rifling is still actually in the barrel !!!

Good luck.

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TomN
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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: 500Nitro]
#221911 - 19/12/12 06:46 AM

Looked at the barrell flats and it looks like 12-70 850 bar Nirto proof 11/8 shot has crown over NP on right barrell and crown over BV on the left both say 12-70 850 bar and nirto proof flats are also marked R choke on both sides. Tom N

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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: TomN]
#221912 - 19/12/12 07:08 AM

Thomas Wild was/is a maker from Birmingham, over in the West Midlands. I feel they where a best maker. I believe they statred in business as a barrel supplier during the Crimean, if not they where a old company, died with the War to end all wars and revived under a umbrella company I believe. I do not know who the current holder (I think it is A.A. Brown, but ???) is, but if memory serves they are housed with Webley&Scott, Midland, Bonehill, Morrow, Ketland, Bland and so forth.

I rather like there small bore hammer guns. I have owned one and brokered a few.
They trade for 2-4000us, so a Paradox in high condition should make the 6Kus mark.

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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: Caprivi]
#221916 - 19/12/12 07:30 AM

A s Caprivi said, Birmingham maker.

Subject to all being good, condition, tight etc etc,
6k for a Nitro proofed paradox is OK.

TOM

Is it Toplever or Underlever ?

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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: 500Nitro]
#221917 - 19/12/12 07:31 AM

All I have seen where Hammer back action with a A&D top latch.

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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: Caprivi]
#221941 - 19/12/12 01:38 PM

Tom-

Bring a camera and/or your smartphone and be ready to post photos for us while you're viewing it.
Chances are someone here may be able to comment while you're 'in the moment', likely the service may have value to you as you're considering the purchase.

Definitely worth the drive too...

Cheers
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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: tinker]
#221944 - 19/12/12 01:45 PM

It appears that its a top lever with a grenner cross bolt. told the wife and she hit the cealing so I doin't think that I will ge getting to go and look at it. I found it on gunbroker.com page 14 of 15 I sure would love to get it but like I said the wife will not even begen to part with the money to bad as it would proubly just go up in time. TomN

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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: TomN]
#221948 - 19/12/12 02:11 PM

Tom

Nice gun

2 things.

1. The T WILD inscribed on the barrels looks
to be fresh or freshly cut IMHO. The edges look
sharp.

2. The gun has been re proofed because it has BAR proof marks which are modern.

I can't see all the old proof marks.

Anyway, good find. Hope you can persuade your wife to change her mind !!!

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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: 500Nitro]
#221949 - 19/12/12 02:40 PM

500 nitro is right reprooved on 12-70. 18.6 bores = .733. Probably a nice gun. If bores are still .733 (and rifled chokes are good) it will be a good shooting gun. With the .733 bores the Holland paradox ammo may not be your best bet.

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Edited by gatsby (19/12/12 02:41 PM)

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Re: T Wild Paradox 12 bore [Re: gatsby]
#222498 - 29/12/12 01:18 PM

The current Holland & Holland ammo is .735" diameter and should not be fired in a .733" bore.

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