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Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR?
      #218974 - 04/11/12 02:59 AM

Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - the successor to the BAR in Australia?



I handled one of these in France at St Etienne and was impressed with its handling. Might be called a pump action, but V-C calls it "in-line". Because the forend doesn't operate as the pump, instead it is fixed and the metal slide slides forwards to load the rifle.

As Aussies know, we don't have access to semi-auto firearms, but "pump actions" rifles are permitted. Sambar hunters used to love their BAR's and this could be the replacement rifle.

Calibres currently include the 9.3x62 which would be excellent for sambar, as well as pigs, other deer, and larger species, even buffalo. I could see it would be great for driven game in Europe too.

Other calibres currently include: 7x64; 270 WMS; 7mm Rem Mag; and 300 Mag. But I was told the .308 and .30-06 will be available in the future so excellent new options in the future for Australian medium game.

The trigger felt fine too.

The extended magazine of 5 shots would be handy too.

Trophy Arms of Essendon imports them and I see they are advertised on usedguns for about $1900.






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Edited by NitroX (04/11/12 03:11 AM)

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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: NitroX]
      #218980 - 04/11/12 03:37 AM

Video links added here:

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=218975&an=&page=0&vc=1

The second video has Pierre Verney-Carron shooting three shots in 2.38 seconds.

The first video shows Pierre shooting three shots quickly and also shows a remarkable group on the chest of the running boar target.

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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: NitroX]
      #219034 - 05/11/12 03:07 AM

Interesting rifle. The second video, it was like a veritable war zone.Wonder how many thousands of rounds were let off.

I wonder about the use of the battue rib.Having never shot one, would like to know if they are of advantage for driven shooting.Thank you.


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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: vikram]
      #219050 - 05/11/12 07:07 AM

Could not understand a word they were saying, however the first guy can shoot that's for sure. That was a remarkable group on a moving target.
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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: aromakr]
      #219076 - 05/11/12 03:48 PM

Every now and again I feel a hankering to have a good semi-auto rifle. For all sorts of reasons, now and for possibilities in the future.

When I saw photos of this rifle, I thought interesting, but ... maybe not for me. But was interested to see one in the flesh. After handling one, I immediately became more interested, as it doesn't feel like a clunky cumbersome pump action. The slide is nice and solid, but quick to use. The forend is fixed. And calibres of .30-06 and 9.3x62 makes two good choices for deer, or deer plus larger game. I thought immediately of sambar deer, and it seems the importer probably did as well. In Europe and especially France, driven boar would be the biggest use of it.

The importer of Trophy Arms in Aust imported a reasonable number of them, and I believe I was told they were going quickly or had already all been sold. So there is interest in them. One of them is advertised on usedguns by Trophy Arms probably to get the news of them out there.



Vikram,

I don't know about that sort of rib, but they are often seen on battue or driven game hunting rifles. Maybe someone having used a rifle like this or a design with a rib like that can comment?

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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: NitroX]
      #219080 - 05/11/12 05:33 PM

It's interesting that they mounted the holo-sight up front.
I've never seen that before.

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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: AkMike]
      #219090 - 05/11/12 09:52 PM

Hello AkMike,

That system is called Optimum Infaillible and was invented and patented by a French gunsmith/retailer who licensed it to us (Verney-Carron SA).

It is based on the fact that when you point at something, you extend your arm to have your index finger as far as possible from your eyes.
Following that reasoning, when you aim quickly at something as it is done in "battue hunting" it is easier and more natural to have the red dot as far as possible to just have to put it on your targeted game.
It was however necessary to have a light red dot sight such as the Docter (40g) or the Bed40 (55g) in order to prevent imbalance.
And the red dot sight is interchangeable with the classic metallic sight which can be useful if you encounter a problem with the red dot sight while on the hunt...

More info (unfortunately in French) at => Optimum Infaillible

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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: VerneyCarron]
      #219095 - 05/11/12 11:16 PM

I don't think one of those was on the rifle I looked at. Got to find those photos among several hundred.

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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: NitroX]
      #219118 - 06/11/12 06:28 AM

Thanks VC. I did see the reasoning as soo as I saw it.

It's unique and a good idea!

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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: AkMike]
      #220446 - 28/11/12 07:14 PM

An online friend, the famous huntress from Romania, Anca Bradu, using one of the Verney-Carron Impact LA (Inline - pump action) rifles on a driven game hunt, in Luxembourg.


One of the press articles about Anca



The rifle looks quite right on this petite lady.


A kill for the V-C.





What is that by Anca's knees, I think it is a bottle of Cognac.

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Re: Verney-Carron Impact Inline rifle - a successor to the BAR? [Re: NitroX]
      #220475 - 29/11/12 02:31 AM

Lovely!

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