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Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express
      #216987 - 19/09/12 10:24 AM

Here are some pictures of my Field rifle.
It is #154 which is very early for a falling block rifle. In fact, Kirton lists the earliest known falling block at #401 and the earliest recorded pivoting block action at #194.
The wood is quite worn, having spent its life in India and well used. The checkering is just about smooth but still visible.
The bore is quite good and I love ovate barrels.
The forend tip is shaped quite nicely too.









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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Huvius]
      #216998 - 19/09/12 03:02 PM


Great rifle you have there. If that thing could tell a story....

Love to have a British SS sportingrifle like that one or a MH in similar caliber.


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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: rigbymauser]
      #216999 - 19/09/12 04:55 PM

Very, very pleasant!

An unusual forend tip a la Henry. BTW the flat top scoring might be easily restored with some due care, solvent and a brush. With reference to ovate do you mean the rifling or external profile?

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: kamilaroi]
      #217009 - 20/09/12 12:33 AM

The barrel is ovate in shape, at least that is what they are called.
Really, it is more of a teardrop shape with the top filed flat.

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Huvius]
      #217010 - 20/09/12 01:35 AM

Huvius - I am not sure what you meant by this statement - "It is #154 which is very early for a falling block rifle."

Do you mean early for a Field's Patent? or early for an English falling block CF rifle?

The reason I ask this, is the centre fire Sharps rifles in the States pre-date your rifle's "1877" action stamp by 10 years.

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Daryl_S]
      #217017 - 20/09/12 02:39 AM

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Huvius - I am not sure what you meant by this statement - "It is #154 which is very early for a falling block rifle."

Do you mean early for a Field's Patent? or early for an English falling block CF rifle?




I am referring to the Field's patent use number.
Field patented a pivoting block action which is similar to a Martini but with a side lever and the true falling block action.
I assume the pivoting block actions occupy the earlier uses of the patent since more often than not, the falling blocks are in the four digit range of the patent use.

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Huvius]
      #217020 - 20/09/12 03:40 AM

love the 577/500 No.2

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: lancaster]
      #235166 - 05/09/13 02:04 PM

Loving it too!
I am shooting a 400gr. Hawk bullet over 120gr. Old Eynsford 1-1/2F.
Works well.





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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Huvius]
      #235209 - 06/09/13 08:56 AM

Huvius - I must have missed this when you first posted it (or Alzheimer's is back!)

That is a very nice rifle! The ovate barrel is certainly a bonus - a definite sign of a better rifle, and I prefer the rose and scroll engraving

I have one, though less good, in .450 No. 1 Carbine, a bit of a squib compared to the .577/500

The action is one of the best of the falling blocks and very smooth to operate

Well done - enjoy it

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: TH44]
      #235217 - 06/09/13 12:35 PM

Great looking rifle.
I really like the condition on this rifle, perfect patina.




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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: tinker]
      #237098 - 25/10/13 06:48 PM

Lovely rifle and GREAT cartridge !

I've started building one, on a WW Greener, single barrel, break action, top lever, back action lock.

I hope nobody was in the Dunny when you fired that thing!

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: AFRO408]
      #237099 - 25/10/13 06:59 PM

Lovely rifle

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: gwh]
      #237199 - 28/10/13 05:37 AM

...is that a 1886 brownchester laying in front..?.

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: rigbymauser]
      #237203 - 28/10/13 07:39 AM

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...is that a 1886 brownchester laying in front..?.




Winchester 92 actually.

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Huvius]
      #237207 - 28/10/13 11:04 AM

Great looking rifle you have there.
What kind of velocity and accuracy do you get with it?

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Iowa_303]
      #237224 - 29/10/13 04:33 AM

Have you-all seen the very similar rifle on the front cover of this summer's issue of Black Powder Cartridge magazine, from the USA? It contains a good article written by its owner Mel Swanson about hunting with it in Africa. Its calibre is "only" .577 - 450. Good photos too!

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: HistoricBore]
      #237232 - 29/10/13 12:34 PM

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Have you-all seen the very similar rifle on the front cover of this summer's issue of Black Powder Cartridge magazine, from the USA? It contains a good article written by its owner Mel Swanson about hunting with it in Africa. Its calibre is "only" .577 - 450. Good photos too!




Here is the link.
http://www.blackpowderspg.com/mag.html

Must be pretty gratifying to work up a load and take such a classic to Africa for a hunt.

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Iowa_303]
      #237233 - 29/10/13 12:47 PM

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Great looking rifle you have there.
What kind of velocity and accuracy do you get with it?




Thanks!
I haven't run it through a chronograph but accuracy is pretty decent. If you look closely, the righthand log is flipping - and I was even aiming at that one! I did take a leading shot at a swimming beaver from +/- 200yds downhill and hit just 10" or so to the right of it. Makes quite a splash!

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Huvius]
      #238473 - 01/12/13 05:10 AM

I too am a great fan of the "ovate" barrel, I look at it in wonder that a person has filed the whole profile out ,then file matted the top flat to give the sighting plane, wonderful work, I have one on my 1897 Westley Richards 577NE.Lovely.Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Englishman]
      #238484 - 01/12/13 09:29 AM

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... I have one on my 1897 Westley Richards 577NE...




Would love to see that one if you can!

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Huvius]
      #238494 - 01/12/13 10:24 PM

Huvius,

A great rifle, and fine shooting!

The ovate barrel profile fascinates me also. My little Jones actioned Rigby 40-70 SBN (that you so masterfully helped me identify the caliber of) also has this barrel profile. I too am awed to think of the skill and time involved in filing out that finished contour.

Which reminds me . . . I need to get that rifle out for a shooting session soon.

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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Huvius]
      #247587 - 21/05/14 12:45 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Huvius - I am not sure what you meant by this statement - "It is #154 which is very early for a falling block rifle."

Do you mean early for a Field's Patent? or early for an English falling block CF rifle?




I am referring to the Field's patent use number.
Field patented a pivoting block action which is similar to a Martini but with a side lever and the true falling block action.
I assume the pivoting block actions occupy the earlier uses of the patent since more often than not, the falling blocks are in the four digit range of the patent use.




I thought this could use some clarification and I found this picture of the patent showing both the pivoting block design and the falling block design on the same patent.



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Edited by CptCurl (19/07/14 09:59 PM)


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Re: Field Patent 577/500 No.2 Express [Re: Huvius]
      #247621 - 21/05/14 07:48 PM



I think i just fell in love... (the rifle, not the fellow!)

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