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Dr_Deer
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Re: Just thinking... Idle curiosity... Options for a 7x57mm? [Re: Ben]
      #211325 - 22/06/12 10:34 AM

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A nice old Brno in the calibre would be good.






There are currently three BRNO stutzens in 7x57 on usedguns.com.au


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Re: Just thinking... Idle curiosity... Options for a 7x57mm? [Re: Dr_Deer]
      #211665 - 28/06/12 08:02 AM

Can anybody tell me anything about the suitability / desirability of either of the two Mausers listed on Used Guns at the moment for a build? http://usedguns.com.au/Guns/used_rifles_7mm

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Re: Just thinking... Idle curiosity... Options for a 7x57mm? [Re: Ben]
      #211670 - 28/06/12 01:15 PM

You mean the Brazilian and the Chilean?

My advice is not to touch these. They are for collectors/shooters of ex-military firearms. It would be a shame to modify these.

The cost for an ex-mil action and new barrel would probably be similar to the price of these anyway. The ex-mil barrels are stepped and would need work to streamline the profile. Realistically if you buy a beat up Mauser you are buying it for the action only. I'd stick with a 98 action.

On the other hand there is a 96 action (ad says M38 but this is actually a 96 action) that has been customised to some extent, has a scope and is 7mm-08 and is only $600. That looks like a good deal and you could rechamber to 7x57 without too much drama maybe? Even if you change the stock, mounts and scope, you're paying $600 for a modified action and barrel with the size hole you want.


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Re: Just thinking... Idle curiosity... Options for a 7x57mm? [Re: mauserand9mm]
      #211671 - 28/06/12 01:26 PM

Hey, thank you. Good advice. So, would any 98 action do, regardless of calibre? What about bolt size? Please pardon my ignorance - still got plenty of that!

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Re: Just thinking... Idle curiosity... Options for a 7x57mm? [Re: Ben]
      #216718 - 14/09/12 11:24 AM

I had a very neat (previous "tarded up" before I got it) 1899 small ring (intermediate ???) commercial M98. Cools spindley stock with schnabel fore stock and side panels. I rebarreled it to 275 Rigby H.V............

Lately after my brothers success with a M-77 ruger, I am thinking I may "need" another.
Thinking stainless and plastic thou. A stainless 6-Lug Weatherby action and 23 or so inches of light contour barrel in a light synthetic stock

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Re: Just thinking... Idle curiosity... Options for a 7x57mm? [Re: Caprivi]
      #216724 - 14/09/12 01:47 PM

Thanks for your help, gents: My idle curiosity became quite active, and something good will soon be here...

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Re: Just thinking... Idle curiosity... Options for a 7x57mm? [Re: Ben]
      #216735 - 14/09/12 03:59 PM

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Hey, thank you. Good advice. So, would any 98 action do, regardless of calibre? What about bolt size? Please pardon my ignorance - still got plenty of that!




A bit late answer on this, but no, not any M98 will do. Supposedly many actions made in the latter part of WW2 were not made well with good metallurgy. Due to difficulties in obtaining proper raw materials. This is just from what i read in a US custom rifles book in the past, but it makes sense.

I know the collector angle of not using "fine" mil rifles is often said, but having purchased a rifle which sat on the net for sale for two years once, and no 'collector' picked it up, it didn't cut it for me in that instance.

Collector rifles also often sit in huge collections mostly gathering dust. I think rifles were designed to be used. But modifying fine examples of rarer ones, well yes, that might be a shame.

Ben, good luck on your new expected rifle.

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Re: Just thinking... Idle curiosity... Options for a 7x57mm? [Re: NitroX]
      #216739 - 14/09/12 10:50 PM



Yep look for a 1943 or earlier action if your looking at ex German military hardware ,the metal was OK up until the last months of the war but by the end of 43 the tolerances started to become more generous and the external finish deteriorated . The heat treating became suspect on some of the 1945 actions ,we found one that had been hardened all the way through when it was drilled and tapped....it ended up in the scrap bin.


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