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Not knowing H&H serial numbers, and the gun not being described as bored out, how is a novice to know?

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By asking questions and doing your research. Sometimes a difficult task, unless your aware of Nitroexpress. Mick is not asking for the moon with his Holland 8, its probably priced accordingly but can you live with its faults?

Rigbym,
True big bore made for DG smoothbore ballguns seem to be quite rare. I have only seen 4 including the Holland under discussion that by their configuration (length weight and charge) and documentation (factory records) could be described as, ball guns, elephant guns etc. Made specifically for close encounters with angry animals they need not shoot as has been stated earlier more than 60yds but with more velocity and less recoil than a fully rifled gun.
Big bore paradoxes aren't a compromise. The dirty little secret about the big paradox guns is they are very accurate and easy to regulate even with a little wear in their bores.
Another good read is Sanderson "Thirteen Years Amoung The Wild Beasts of India". My avitar is the business end of a ballgun as described in the book.

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As always..Gatsby, you are delivering facts and valuable info to me..
I know paradox guns are not themself a "compromise"...actually they are nice guns, but historicalwise, rifled boreguns is what I really is focused on these days. If I were ofcouse, to find any paradoxgun overhere, I`LL snap it before my shadow could keep up...don`t worry

Wild beast of India...or yeah...its my bedtime bible..(almost)

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=82967&an=0&page=3#Post82967

Some books I am now hunting is by Arthur Neumann and Alfred Pease...both authors were using
10 bore rifled guns....and ofcouse (thanks to you) With rifle in 5 Continents by Paul Niedick.
I`LL end poor just for buying books...hahaha

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Having looked at my first post in reply to Rigby Mauser, it strikes me now that perhaps no body else knows that Jens and I are friends, the first comment about price was not to be taken seriously hence the smilie, he likes big bore guns and this was a bit of an ironic joke not an estimate.

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I am considering the purchase of a H&H double hammer rifle, little used, very sharp bores. Overall very nice honest condition. Any idea of a fair price for such a gun?

Best regards

GW.

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Huvuis-
I mean no disrespect but you are comparing Apples and Oranges,
- Micks gun is a 15xxx serial number which means it is a Paradox
- The Paradox rifling is bored out, cut the value 40 - 60%
- The Ball gun is an original
JAZ

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Huvuis-
I mean no disrespect but you are comparing Apples and Oranges,
- Micks gun is a 15xxx serial number which means it is a Paradox
- The Paradox rifling is bored out, cut the value 40 - 60%
- The Ball gun is an original
JAZ

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Actually, this particular Holland proved to be correct in every way as a smoothbore ball gun.
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=192672&an=0&page=1#Post192672

Should have bought that darn thing!!

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Perhaps we are talking about two different guns. One with a paradox serial #15xxx and the ball gun with a four digit serial #. With the British guns never say never but the ball gun has rounded hammers. I believe the paradoxes were all flat hammer guns.



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"Recoil is insignificant when there is a tiger on the head of your elephant" The Maharaja of Cooch Behar



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