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HeymSR20
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Re: My M-S 1903 Take Down .256 [Re: DarylS]
      #212978 - 18/07/12 08:55 PM

More info on Kynoch Ammo is at http://new-kynoch.apt-sites.com/6-5MS.htm. Barrel length was 26". They quote pressure at 17.5 Tons per sq inch. Assuming a UK ton, thats 2240 lbs per ton, that equates to 39,200 PSI. Haven't a clue whatt powder they are using, but probably something slow buring with lots of shove but not much pressure. The converse to short high presure cartridges from the 308, 260, 7mm-08, 243 type.

They also produce the 9.5 MS, or 375 Rimless.

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Re: My M-S 1903 Take Down .256 [Re: HeymSR20]
      #212979 - 18/07/12 08:57 PM

I have been away and missed this.

Very nice mate.

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Re: My M-S 1903 Take Down .256 [Re: FATBOY404]
      #212999 - 19/07/12 12:29 AM

6.5x54 MS is listed as CIP pezio at 53,000 PSI and 46,000 CIP copper units of pressure.

It would be absolutely impossible to achieve that speed with less pressure using today's powders I'm sure - when the slightly larger cases barely make it at yet higher pressure.

I made the mistake of assuming the long ton was the correct multiplier some time ago and was corrected by another site memeber here. This listing I just made is straight off this site below. I find it handy and the text also talks/explains the various methods and locations of measurement, between SAAMI and CIP.


http://kwk.us/pressures.html

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Re: My M-S 1903 Take Down .256 [Re: DarylS]
      #225730 - 22/02/13 02:38 AM

Hello,

A small update. I had an old, canvas rifle case which I had previously used for my full stock M-S Model NO (which I've sold). My guess is that it must have been made for a pre-war Mannlicher 1903 full stock, as no other rifle would have fit. My brother bought it off Ebay a couple of years ago for his Mannlicher, but it was too short (later, he found an old Jeffery case which fitted perfectly).

Anyway, because the extra length of the stock and barrel of mine, it actually would fit very well into this case. So I removed the previous furniture and redid the cloth. I did reuse some of the old parts, but most of them had to be done new. It was down to a lot of luck to be able to fit the scope in there, but I think it worked out pretty well. I will probably add a trade label to it, just because I think a case like this should have one.

You can also see that I've had the extension removed but I kept the old Silvers recoil pad as I think it adds a bit of charm.

Pictures:







/C

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Re: My M-S 1903 Take Down .256 [Re: Clark]
      #225735 - 22/02/13 03:33 AM

Clark I bid against you on this one. Congrats.

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Clark
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Re: My M-S 1903 Take Down .256 [Re: casper50]
      #225737 - 22/02/13 05:08 AM

Thank you!

There's a very nice, British built one on the upcoming auction. I'm going there, but unfortunately I can't buy another one due to the Swedish gun laws, so I'll only be looking:

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...3&saletype=

/C

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Re: My M-S 1903 Take Down .256 [Re: Clark]
      #225742 - 22/02/13 05:56 AM

I've got a bid in on it already. I did get this one out of the same auction as yours. It's lot listed as a takedown but I see the takedown lever so I'm hoping. It's a model 1900 listed as 6.5x57. We'll see.




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Re: My M-S 1903 Take Down .256 [Re: casper50]
      #225744 - 22/02/13 06:10 AM

Very nice Clark. Congrats

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Clark
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Re: My M-S 1903 Take Down .256 [Re: Caprivi]
      #225750 - 22/02/13 08:54 AM

That's a nice one as well Casper, especially with the diopter. The one on Holt's is also a take-down but it doesn't say so in the description either.

Thanks Caprivi!

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