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100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters
      #203290 - 22/02/12 07:49 PM

Here ya go $14.900 per hunter for a 25 buffalo bang up.

http://www.huntineurope.com/us/p_Australia-buffalo-driven.htm

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: gryphon]
      #203293 - 22/02/12 08:05 PM


It's not a bad offer. I reckon quite a few in Europe would jump at the chance.

"Between 400 and 500 shots are fired to bring down the 100 buffalo expected"

I would hope the ratio would be slightly better than that.

A lot of work in skinning 100 buffalo and taking the meat off the animal.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: 500Nitro]
      #203295 - 22/02/12 08:48 PM

Jumping just now!!!

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: 500Nitro]
      #203297 - 22/02/12 08:50 PM

Nigel when guides/outfitters here want big bucks for just one I thought this was a really good offer for those inclined to do so and that have the 15 Bigs too.
Many would find it cheap as chips and a lot of fun..whoo hoo a Monteria in Oz eh!

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: gryphon]
      #203304 - 22/02/12 09:13 PM


Gryph

Yep, agree when you look what they charge for one, it is good value.

The thing is, you could get 2 or 3 or even more good trophy and semi trophy animals out of the one's you shoot. And to be honest, some of the cow horns aren't too shabby either - I have a couple of really nice sets.

I can tell you that high speed culling is fast and furious
and rapid accurate fire is required. I think the most we have put down on the ground at one time was 21 (Some bulls, mostly cows and some calves) and that was between 2 of us in just about a minute.

So anyone who is interested, it is good fun.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: 500Nitro]
      #203305 - 22/02/12 09:45 PM

I'll ask, who is behind this ?

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: tophet1]
      #203309 - 22/02/12 11:08 PM

Jeez, I would love to do that trip, whats 14k ozzie in sterling, about 10k ? last bit of July would work, kids on holiday so SWMBO might let me go, have to ask her next week best

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: tophet1]
      #203310 - 22/02/12 11:08 PM


I couldn't see who was behind it.

What was interesting in the text was they are quite happy to have 3000 buffalo n the place but need to cull 1000 - 1500 a year to keep it stable.

Considering it is a cattle property, 3000 Buffalo eat one hell of a lot of feed AND destroy a hell of a lot of land etc.

Would be interesting where the place is.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: 500Nitro]
      #203311 - 22/02/12 11:11 PM

ammo weight restriction might be a problem ? best

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: 500Nitro]
      #203312 - 22/02/12 11:20 PM

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Would be interesting where the place is.



I could guess but I won't.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #203313 - 22/02/12 11:22 PM

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ammo weight restriction might be a problem ? best



That is an understatement !!!

We had to reload at night to shoot the next day. I know I took I think 40 or 60 rounds on the place of 375H&H.

My thought are Bolt action 375H&H. That is what I found to be the best culling caliber. Larger, too much recoil, smaller doesn't have the shock value of slightly off target. That means you can easily buy ammo here in Aus quite cheaply.

BTW, the gun gets damn hot during culls.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: NitroX]
      #203314 - 22/02/12 11:26 PM

$600 per buffalo. Including daily fees etc. But $5000 for a guest!

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: NitroX]
      #203317 - 22/02/12 11:56 PM

But could I buy flanged .375 ?? Maybe Graeme Wright could knock some up, flight is a bugger though, Seville-Madrid-London-Singapore-Darwin, best

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #203318 - 23/02/12 12:02 AM

tried to send them a contact message, get some weird Italian message telling me I havenīt put in all obligatory details but I have ?? best

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #203319 - 23/02/12 12:08 AM

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But could I buy flanged .375 ?? Maybe Graeme Wright could knock some up, flight is a bugger though, Seville-Madrid-London-Singapore-Darwin, best




What about going via Europe instead of London ?

I think someone flies from Frankfurt.


Flanged 375 double ?

Nice thought and I have often thought of taking mine but I could never load fast enough.

In a cull, I'd probably table my 9.3x74R if any but still prefer a bolt.

They can come thick and fast in a mob in those driven situations.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: 500Nitro]
      #203328 - 23/02/12 02:51 AM

I donīt own a bolt rifle above 6.5 ! and that is in the UK ! best

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #203340 - 23/02/12 05:45 AM


That answered that question !

Well, if you go, have fun.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: NitroX]
      #203352 - 23/02/12 08:14 AM

Quote:

Quote:


Would be interesting where the place is.



I could guess but I won't.




Conways Station?????

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: AkMike]
      #203355 - 23/02/12 08:24 AM


I have a fair idea. The photos, if from the place all seem to be dry country, no flood plains.

Quite a few properties are bounded on most sides by National parks, Though 3000 Buffalo is one hell of a population to sustain. We culled a property that held about 1000, maybe more down to 400 and that was because of lack of feed in a dry season that was really dry.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #203359 - 23/02/12 08:37 AM

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I donīt own a bolt rifle above 6.5 ! and that is in the UK ! best



Mike - stop off for a visit on the way over, and borrow one of mine - a 9.3 or my little .375/06IMP would work just fine. I could pick you up at Vancouver International AP - only an 8 1/2 hour drive from here.

I can have 50 rounds of 270gr. TSX at 2,600fps ready for you if you want - more if needed. The 9.3, well, not too many good bullets in stock - but will get what you need.

HA! - probably a LOT easier to borrow or rent one there from 'one of the boys' 'over there'.

The offer for the pick-up and visit is still open.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: 500Nitro]
      #203361 - 23/02/12 08:38 AM

The site shows it's a 600,000 hectare cattle station. That's quite a chunk of real estate! How many stations are that large?

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: AkMike]
      #203364 - 23/02/12 08:46 AM


Quite a few. More so in WA than the NT.
You have to remember that even though Australia looks small on a map, the state of WA would cover HALF of the US 48 if laid over the top of it. So it is a bit bigger than Texas !!!


Here is a bit of info I found.

NT Wide Pastoral Survey 2006 - Executive Summary

This survey, conducted in 2004, is the first complete survey of the Northern Territory (NT) pastoral industry.

Three regions were surveyed more than 20 years ago - Alice Springs in 1979, the Barkly in 1980 and Katherine in 1982 - but the Top End pastoral region was not included. This survey reflects the results of interviews with 149 cattle producers across the four regions, accounting for 71% of producers in the NT.

The average size of a cattle station in the NT is 3122km2. On the stations surveyed across the NT there were approximately 1.4 million head. The predominant breed of cattle in the NT is Brahman but British breeds are the most prevalent in the Alice Springs Region, due to a less tropical environment.

The most common ownership structures of stations in the NT are owner/manager (32% of producers), private owned/manager employed (25%) and company/manager (25%). Six per cent of pastoral properties surveyed were Indigenous-owned land.

The majority of properties in the NT have a total herd size between 2000 and 5000 head (20% of properties) and more than 20,000 head (18%). The most common breeder herd size in the NT is that of 2000-5000 head (22%

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: 500Nitro]
      #203365 - 23/02/12 08:49 AM


Have a look here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ranches_and_stations#Northern_Territory

Gives you some idea.

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: 500Nitro]
      #203368 - 23/02/12 08:57 AM

Wow! There is a lot of big stations dow there!

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Re: 100 buff`s 25 buff ea for 4 shooters [Re: AkMike]
      #203372 - 23/02/12 09:50 AM


600000 hectares is 6000 km2.

So very big.


I spent a few weeks at various time here over a couple of years and I considered that big.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Plains_Station

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