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lancaster
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whats this?
#196940 - 17/12/11 01:22 AM

look like alex. henry in edinburgh on the barrel. a breech loader for paper cartridges with seperat priming?

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3567364

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Re: whats this? [Re: lancaster]
#196947 - 17/12/11 03:10 AM

Dang - I was hoping for a top shot with the 'bolt/block' pulled back.

The Sharps models of breechloading rifles of 1849 to 1863 used a paper ctg. The action had an outside hammer and a nipple for ignition via cap or compound in a blister on a tape (maynard tape primer). Similar physics, different action. Either this one or the Sharps could be loaded with loose components. Modern made models of the Sharps made in the USA or Italy are available today.

Love it.

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Re: whats this? [Re: DarylS]
#197086 - 18/12/11 07:19 AM

Very interesting rifle. I've not seen anything like that before.

Someone please buy the thing and take a lot of photos to share.

Curl

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DarylS
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Re: whats this? [Re: CptCurl]
#197099 - 18/12/11 09:21 AM

Yes - by all means.

Beautfully made - custom rifle - maybe a one-off action. there were a number of those totally custom rifles made in the .40's and 50's - maybe even early 60's in Europe prior to the self contained RF and CF ctgs. taking over.

This one might have taken ctgs. like the early Maynard, Burnside, Smith or Gallagher, all firing a contained ctg. with bullet, but by a percussion cap as this one appears to be.

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kamilaroi
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Re: whats this? [Re: DarylS]
#197107 - 18/12/11 10:28 AM

Looks like a Henry patent (#702). Magnificent bar in wood work!

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lancaster
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Re: whats this? [Re: kamilaroi]
#197145 - 18/12/11 04:27 PM

yes the work is first class

have asked for more pics and for the bore

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CHAPUISARMES
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Re: whats this? [Re: CptCurl]
#197175 - 18/12/11 09:21 PM

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Very interesting rifle. I've not seen anything like that before.

Someone please buy the thing and take a lot of photos to share.

Curl

Come on Curl, Your the one with all the loot.

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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RJW
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Re: whats this? [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
#197385 - 21/12/11 10:54 AM

Very Strange.

Alex Henry never had a Patent No. 702.
I've checked all the known Henry patents (inc provisional patents) and none seem to describe this rifle. There's no mention of it in Winfer's Alex Henry book either.
It could be a patent use number for Henry Rifling which was Patent No. 2802 of 1861.

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CptCurl
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Re: whats this? [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
#197648 - 23/12/11 11:37 PM

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Quote:

Very interesting rifle. I've not seen anything like that before.

Someone please buy the thing and take a lot of photos to share.

Curl

Come on Curl, Your the one with all the loot.

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Jeff, I wish it were so. Right now the treasury is busted from the purchase of another DR (and other stuff). I'm due to post a report on recent activity. Stay tuned.

Curl

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chuckT
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Re: whats this? [Re: CptCurl]
#197654 - 24/12/11 01:04 AM

Beautiful rifle. Don't see evidence of nipple for percussion cap. Top view of breech makes me think pinfire. More information and pics would be great.

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