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LukeinNZ
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Pedersoli Kodiak - 9.3x74R vs 45/70 for Buffalo
#19632 - 07/10/04 07:21 AM

Hi there,
For years I've always wanted to own a double rifle but can only dream of a British classic double ever sitting in the safe.
However Pedersoli's Kodiak rifle is in my price bracket - the question is 9.3x74R or the 45/70? The intended use of the rifle is for wild cattle here in NZ and funds permitting a trip to Australia for a Buffalo.
I've had good experience with the 9.3's after having owned a 98 mauser in 9.3x62 but was thinking that a properly loaded 45/70 with premium bullets may be a better bet should my dream of Buff hunting ever eventuate.
What calibre should I choose?

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Re: Pedersoli Kodiak - 9.3x74R vs 45/70 for Buffalo [Re: LukeinNZ]
#19635 - 07/10/04 02:10 PM

Luke
I am not an expert on doubles; however I would go for the 9.3x74r. The problem with 45-70 is that is a slow / week round compared to the 9.3. I have friends that lode the 45-70 up to unbelievable velocities and regularly take moose in Alaska with it. However, they are using the Ruger #1 which is with out a doubt a much stronger action than the Pedersoli's Kodiak rifle. In MHO save your self some trouble and go for the round that is proven to work and does not need to be “modified” to work. I think that you will be much happier in the long run.

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NE450No2
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Re: Pedersoli Kodiak - 9.3x74R vs 45/70 for Buffalo [Re: LukeinNZ]
#19657 - 09/10/04 02:42 AM

I have used a Chapuis 9,3x74R double for the past 6 years. It has become one of my favorite rifles and calibres. My 9,3 is scoped.
I have used the 45/70 longer. With Garrett Hammer heads, Buffalo Bore factory loads or equivelent handloads it is very powerful. My brother had a 45/70 Pederosoli for a while. Information provided by the factory stated that the rifle was safe with any load suitable for the Marlin Lever Action. My brothers rifle shot very well with such loads.
Either rifle would be good for the hunts you describe.

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M82A1Barret50Cal
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Re: Pedersoli Kodiak - 9.3x74R vs 45/70 for Buffalo [Re: NE450No2]
#19669 - 09/10/04 04:18 PM

For anything other than a double I would say 45/70, however I would go for the 9.3 in a double. The 45/70 gets great penetration, and has a very flat trajectory, 9.3 is more fun in a double IMO, it's up to you though, if it was me I'd go for the 9.3

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Re: Pedersoli Kodiak - 9.3x74R vs 45/70 for Buffalo [Re: M82A1Barret50Cal]
#19675 - 10/10/04 02:46 PM

In reply to:

The 45/70 gets great penetration, and has a very flat trajectory

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I would buy the 9.3x74mmR if it was me and intended to use it as is.

Some guys in the USA have re-chambered the .45/70 Pedersolis to .450 No 2 NE which would be great if someone could do it here, you were happy the pressure was OK and willing to take a risk on regulation problems after re-chambering. I gave it some thought. It would be your call.

Personally I wouldn't like a .45/70 on water buffalo and the outfitter I used said they do not allow them. No doubt they will kill a buffalo in the right circumstances.

A Pedersoli costs about A$4500 in Oz. You might be lucky and get a good vintage British .450/400 for about A$7000 if you looked long enough.

A few more ideas to mull over. Good luck. Hope you find a double to have fun with.

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