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Igorrock
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Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF
#195217 - 29/11/11 06:58 AM

I think this rifle is a classic one:

http://www.ahnovapen.se/ -Samlarvapen (collectible fire-arms) price 15 000 SEK (~2 153 US$)

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: Igorrock]
#195223 - 29/11/11 07:28 AM

Nice!

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: Igorrock]
#195253 - 29/11/11 02:08 PM

1600 euro is not a bad price for a 405 win! you dont see them here every day
agree with you that this is a classic deserve more attention

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: lancaster]
#195273 - 29/11/11 04:19 PM

That's not a bad price. Though in .405 WCF I'd definitely avoid the crescent butt. Those can get painful in much smaller calibers if you don't pay close attention to what you're doing.

I've owned 1895's in .30-'03, .38-72 WCF, .35 WCF, and 405 WCF. My personal preference for round best matched to the rifle is .35 WCF, which is little known and not very appreciated.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: taw1126]
#195280 - 29/11/11 05:43 PM

I have a nice 38-72 with crecent buttplate which is OK..but a .405wcf would be a killer.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: rigbymauser]
#195318 - 30/11/11 04:33 AM

"Teddy R." liked it.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: taw1126]
#195331 - 30/11/11 07:45 AM

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My personal preference for round best matched to the rifle is .35 WCF, which is little known and not very appreciated.

If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, then the .35 WCF, which was duplicated in a rimless version by the .35 Whelen, should not be considered underappreciated.

I once owned a Dubiel built Winchester High Wall in .35 Winchester, which in a moment of weakness I allowed to slip away, much to my later regret. I occasionally see the owner and inquire as to whether he is willing to sell it back, but so far the answer has always been in the negative.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: lancaster]
#303099 - 16/07/17 08:08 PM

another take down in 405 Win in auction
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6538229

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: lancaster]
#303100 - 16/07/17 08:42 PM

A nice '95 in 405 has always been on my list of things to have. A close friend has one in 35 WCF and used it to take an outstanding Mule Deer one year in Colorado. Tried to buy it from him once or twice. I do have a Krag that someone converted to 35 WCF and restocked that has "thumped" some game. I do not think the .35 WCF is quite in the same league as the Whelen. JMO

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: TexasJohn]
#303173 - 21/07/17 11:10 PM

Fantastic rifles !!!!!!! I also think the 35 WCF might be the perfect choice in a "95".
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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: bwanabobftw]
#303174 - 21/07/17 11:31 PM

My first real collectable rifle, bought many years ago, was a 1895 in 30-40 made in 1902. Yes the big bores are nice but there is nothing wrong with the 30-40.

I lived in New Mexico at the time. I picked up the rifle from the gunshop and stopped on the way home and shot it to check the sights. It had one of those neat climbing Lyman peep sights, model 21 if I'm remembering correctly. It was a cold and snowy February day. On a whim I stop again and took a short hike with the rifle and a coyote call. I promptly called in a big coyote and dropped him with one shot. Not a bad way to start a relationship with a wonderful old rifle.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: lancaster]
#323160 - 09/01/19 10:35 PM

another take down in 35 WCF

http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7281300

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: TexasJohn]
#323164 - 10/01/19 05:18 AM

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I do not think the .35 WCF is quite in the same league as the Whelen. JMO

John

The 95's are very interesting rifles. I've always had an interest in obtaining one from the most common caliber made, the 7.62x54R Russian. Would be a neat gun.

The .35 WCF is no .35 Whelen, true, but does beat out the .35 Remington by quite a bit.

The .35 WCF is to the .35 Whelen sort of what the 9.3x57 is to the 9.3x62.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: 9.3x57]
#323166 - 10/01/19 05:47 AM

250gr. at 2,200fps, seems to me for top ballistics of the .35 Win.
The .358 Win. is the rimless version and ,356 Winch. is the
semi-rimmed version for the modernized 94's and Marlin 336's,
although the best I got with the 20" M94, was 2,150fps.
A 24" bl. would easily have produced another 50fps. Of course,
these smaller cases make these ballistics with higher
pressure and lack the nostalgic attractiveness of the .35 Win.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: DarylS]
#323171 - 10/01/19 07:08 AM

Completely different from his other designs JMB certainly made a great hunting rifle with the '95!
And a special thanks for the photos Lancaster - we all appreciate your ability to search out & post great examples in different types as well!

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lancaster
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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: 93x64mm]
#328479 - 18/05/19 05:47 AM

old russian M 95 musket later rebuild by sako with a 7x53R barrel
https://www.tori.fi/varsinais-suomi/Sako_7x53R__winsu__54371054.htm

500 euro is damned cheap for such a rare rifle

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Igorrock
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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: lancaster]
#328545 - 20/05/19 01:54 AM

These Winchester m95's are nowadays quite unliked rifles in Finland and this caliber is, in most cases, very choosy with bullets. The reason is the twist of barrel which is quite low.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: 93x64mm]
#328551 - 20/05/19 02:23 AM

Quote:

Completely different from his other designs JMB certainly made a great hunting rifle with the '95!
And a special thanks for the photos Lancaster - we all appreciate your ability to search out & post great examples in different types as well!

+1
Agreed

and really like this particular model.. point and balance very well...

Still upset I never purchased a nice model years ago in a gun store..was in 30-06..

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: lancaster]
#328586 - 20/05/19 01:34 PM

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old russian M 95 musket later rebuild by sako with a 7x53R barrel
https://www.tori.fi/varsinais-suomi/Sako_7x53R__winsu__54371054.htm

500 euro is damned cheap for such a rare rifle

500 Euros only too. If only it did not cost $1500 to get a rifle from the EU to here.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: NitroX]
#328588 - 20/05/19 01:50 PM

While cool from a Western point of view and look, ie the tubular under barrel magazine, these box magazines are SO MUCH MORE sensible and practical on a lever action.

I only have one lever action, a BLR in .308.

I wanted a SAKO Finnwolf but alas.

One day I would like a Win 94 rimfire of some sort, just for fun, maybe a .30-30 of some sort, and probably some sort of pistol cartridge LA, .38, .44 or .45 or something. Maybe even one in .357. A matching handgun in the same would be cool.

Mainly just for fun.

But the box magazines are far more sensible.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: NitroX]
#328621 - 21/05/19 11:45 AM

I have two Miroku /Winchester 1895 rifles in .405 WCF; one is a Deluxe "Safe Queen" and the other a nice TD which is my shooter which has had the chamber extended to handle 400 grain Woodleigh bullets seated at the cannelure. The rifle shoots bullets from 210 to 400 grain bullets equally well.

Big tough game cannot tell a .400 grain Woodie fired from my 1895 at 2076 fps from the same bullet fired from a 450/400 NE.

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: crshelton]
#328625 - 21/05/19 01:42 PM

no, it can't

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Re: Winchester Mod. 1895 Takedown Kal. 405WCF [Re: lancaster]
#328663 - 22/05/19 12:02 PM

Made in 1905 a .38-72 WCF.
Providence Tool Co. reproduction of the Lyman 21 sight.
Bore is in excellent condition, .380” groove.

The old black powder loads were about 1475’/sec with a 275grain bullet. By going “Nitro for Black” this can safely run 1750-1800’/sec, close on the heels of the .375 2-1/2 Flanged Nitro.
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