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gryphon
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      #189226 - 05/09/11 06:28 AM





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Ben
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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: gryphon]
      #189227 - 05/09/11 07:24 AM

Cheeky bugger.

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: Ben]
      #189228 - 05/09/11 07:28 AM


Awesome pictures Gryph.

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CHAPUISARMES
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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: 500Nitro]
      #189230 - 05/09/11 08:09 AM

Hi Gryphon,

I see you are about to release a new movie......"Death Wish"

Good photos but your a silly B.....

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #189236 - 05/09/11 08:36 AM

Abt 4 foot of Notechis scutatus, no?

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #189245 - 05/09/11 10:53 AM

Those things are easy to kill! (from what I've been told)


Since we don't have any snakes in the woods around here I'll assume it's correct.



Cut off it's tail.



(Right behind the head)

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: AkMike]
      #189249 - 05/09/11 01:28 PM

Quote:

Those things are easy to kill! (from what I've been told)


Since we don't have any snakes in the woods around here I'll assume it's correct.



Cut off it's tail.



(Right behind the head)




Mike, Very true and although they are protected, I believe that all snakes are the best when DEAD....

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #189250 - 05/09/11 01:37 PM



Fascinating creatures.

Never killed a snake. No intention to at this stage.

We used to get a lot of snakes, mainly brown snakes, in a small town called Brewarrina where I grew up.
My parents had a Motel across the road from a river and weir, which was next to a little wildlife reserve.
The snakes used to make there way over to us. From the age of about 10 I would always grab the shovel, pick up the snake and throw it over the fence to the reserve. My Mum used to have kittens and Dad thought I was mad.

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: gryphon]
      #189251 - 05/09/11 01:49 PM

Great photos Gryphon
I love watching snakes in the wild, but I just don't see many while out hunting.
Had a mate who was shit scared of them and he was always finding them :-)

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: AFRO408]
      #189252 - 05/09/11 01:59 PM



Spiders on the other hand, are a totally different matter.

That close to a spider and I would have shrieked like Ned Flanders.

Many a good stalk have been ruined by walking into a spiders web. Like the big Golden Orbs. You have web wrapped around you and start doing the "were the F*** is it dance" whilst screaming at the top of the lungs.

On my first trip to Africa I found a Cobra skin and the only thing that stopped me from putting it into my friends cot was that he would have found a big hairy 8 legged nasty and dropped it on me in my sleep.


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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: AFRO408]
      #189253 - 05/09/11 02:05 PM

Quote:

Great photos Gryphon
I love watching snakes in the wild, but I just don't see many while out hunting.






I agree it's interesting, some come across them often, some not.

I don't come cross them often but have had to shoot one Red bellied that was catching frogs at the edge of the water i was crossing and rose up and struck at me. My dad also had to shoot a Brown many years ago in NSW that swum off a log towards him when crossing water / duck shooting.


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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: HuntingSchneider]
      #189260 - 05/09/11 04:34 PM

Quote:



Fascinating creatures.

Never killed a snake. No intention to at this stage.

We used to get a lot of snakes, mainly brown snakes, in a small town called Brewarrina where I grew up.
My parents had a Motel across the road from a river and weir, which was next to a little wildlife reserve.
The snakes used to make there way over to us. From the age of about 10 I would always grab the shovel, pick up the snake and throw it over the fence to the reserve. My Mum used to have kittens and Dad thought I was mad.




Well mate I have a few rellos around there, some just over the bridge (the late Uncle Archie Moore family and extended clan). I stayed at the motel in 2000 and it has/is being refurbished. BTW might you know the story of the stone fisheries (Biaimie's Ngunnhu), currently indicated at abt 40K BCE.

Yeah snakes are just part of the food chain and I certainly don't get vindictive abt them.


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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #189261 - 05/09/11 04:58 PM

Quote:

Quote:



Fascinating creatures.

Never killed a snake. No intention to at this stage.

We used to get a lot of snakes, mainly brown snakes, in a small town called Brewarrina where I grew up.
My parents had a Motel across the road from a river and weir, which was next to a little wildlife reserve.
The snakes used to make there way over to us. From the age of about 10 I would always grab the shovel, pick up the snake and throw it over the fence to the reserve. My Mum used to have kittens and Dad thought I was mad.




Well mate I have a few rellos around there, some just over the bridge (the late Uncle Archie Moore family and extended clan). I stayed at the motel in 2000 and it has/is being refurbished. BTW might you know the story of the stone fisheries (Biaimie's Ngunnhu), currently indicated at abt 40K BCE.

Yeah snakes are just part of the food chain and I certainly don't get vindictive abt them.




I think the folks had sold it by then. Unless there was a little grey haired German lady (my little old Mum).


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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: HuntingSchneider]
      #189264 - 05/09/11 05:27 PM

Great pictures.

If that were near my house, it would be headless within seconds...


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kamilaroi
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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: EricD]
      #189266 - 05/09/11 07:50 PM

^ In these parts we respect wildlife of all sorts. Around here if you don't know how ecosystems work them you're out of the loop. (BTW a $10K fine applies)

Eh HS, it weren't your mum as the motel had been sold to a local consortium that stuffed it up (community conflict). When I was there it was fairly run down but has been under resto since. Do you know the creation story of the Ngunnhu?

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #189286 - 06/09/11 02:15 AM

Is that a Tiger Snake?

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #189290 - 06/09/11 04:43 AM

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^ In these parts we respect wildlife of all sorts. Around here if you don't know how ecosystems work them you're out of the loop. (BTW a $10K fine applies)





Are you implying that I, or others who have mentioned that the snake would be missing it's head under certain circumstances, are clueless about how the ecosystem works and don't respect wildlife?

I am tempted to comment that the way you worded that is rather like something one would read on a PETA or other greeny website... Or something a guy like Tim Treadwell would say, until he ended up as bear scat.

I have no problem respecting wildlife of all sorts. But if venomous snakes are in my garden, where my young children play, then the venomous snakes won't last for long. I seriously doubt that killng such a snake under such circumstances would endanger the species as a whole in any way.


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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: EricD]
      #189292 - 06/09/11 05:32 AM

Erik, back in 2000 I lived in Hong Kong, got a call from the wife, my son Miguel, aged 1 was sitting in the garden, wife said "thereīs a snake about 2 metres long in the garden near Miguel, what should I do ?" "Bring him inside" I yelled on the phone "and call the police". She did both, they sent the snake squad...an 8 foot cobra !! Got lucky that day, best, Mike

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #189293 - 06/09/11 05:53 AM

p.s. Kamilaroi, I guess I should make myself aware of what species of snake are in my neighbourhood but when I had just moved to Spain in 2002 and saw a 5 foot brown one sunning itself on my terrace I didnīt first consult the "Snakes of Spain" book, I chopped itīs head off with a shovel ! Turned out it was harmless but I still have the skin on the mantlepiece, better safe than sorry best, Mike

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #189304 - 06/09/11 09:00 AM

MB and Jabali.

It is a tiger snake. Tiger snakes are very poisonous being ranked abt #3 in the world.

For others I was quoting what the law is in these parts. (Oz)

The maxim remains that snakes here with a single exception are not agressive (even though most of ours range from deadly to mildly poisonous) and having been a collector/observer all my life I can speak with some authority.

end of story.


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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #189305 - 06/09/11 10:36 AM

Can you post a few pics of some of your collection?

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: gryphon]
      #189310 - 06/09/11 03:20 PM

Sorry mate mine are faded colour film stock that are barely visible. Many years back I did an article for the ADA journal on them (I think abt 1989). I had some in that.

I have been bitten by a few (red belly, whip snake, marsh snake and a few pythons; the last being quite painful due to their hooked teeth) and a few goannas, now those ARE painful!

There's an ADF? fella who used to post here "Bakes", he lives in Darwin? and has/had a fine collection posted.


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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #189311 - 06/09/11 03:54 PM

Addendum: and a Broadheaded snake (Hoplocephalus bungaroides) while chasing Rusa in 65.

Now that envenomation WAS painful. The CSL book mentions the effects; not pleasant at all.


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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #189313 - 06/09/11 05:12 PM

These pictures are great!!! How close can you get to it, before it get dangerous? /Staffan

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Re: SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [Re: Sville]
      #189317 - 06/09/11 06:27 PM

Perhaps a little closer than I was at 2 m`s approx.

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