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Tatume
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Diamondback powder
#185600 - 11/07/11 04:36 AM

Hello Folks,

Being basically poor (teachers tend to be that way), when I ran out of Schutzen and Goex powder, I restocked with Diamondback brand black powder ($10 per pound). When I've had a chance to try it I'll let you know my impressions. In the meantime, do any of you use this brand? (Actually, I squirreled away my last pound of Schutzen, just in case.)

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Huvius
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Re: Diamondback powder [Re: Tatume]
#185611 - 11/07/11 09:11 AM

Tom,
Please let us know.
It is very inexpensive at powderinc.com but available only in 25lb and 50lb orders.

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tinker
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Re: Diamondback powder [Re: Huvius]
#185631 - 11/07/11 03:56 PM

I don't know a thing about it.
Can't wait to hear how it works out for you.

Cheers
Tinker

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DarylS
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Re: Diamondback powder [Re: tinker]
#185651 - 12/07/11 12:31 AM

Heard somewhere, maybe on the other site I frequent, that Diamondback was more of a FireWorks powder - very low grade as a sporting powder. I don't know this to be true - could be if it's cheap.

Testing is the only way to see how it will work for you.

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Daryl

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Tatume
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Re: Diamondback powder [Re: DarylS]
#185658 - 12/07/11 02:37 AM

Daryl,

The company does make fireworks powder, and they recommend against using it in sporting arms. The fireworks powder is even cheaper than the rifle powder.

Tinker,

Today I shot the last of my pre-measured tubes of Goex. Next time I go to the range I'll shoot some Diamondback powder, in my Parker Hale Volunteer.

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DarylS
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Re: Diamondback powder [Re: Tatume]
#185659 - 12/07/11 02:58 AM

I've heard (other site) that Graff's ships anywhere in the US for $12.00 per pound, GOEX - including hazmat fees.

Guys, if I lived 'Down South' I'd be looking into that. Here, we pay $20.00 and we have to pick it up. That isn't local.

Local BP is over $40.00 per pound now. They sell very little and not to anyone in our club.

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Daryl

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Tatume
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Re: Diamondback powder [Re: DarylS]
#185662 - 12/07/11 03:53 AM

Quote:

I've heard (other site) that Graff's ships anywhere in the US for $12.00 per pound, GOEX - including hazmat fees.

Guys, if I lived 'Down South' I'd be looking into that. Here, we pay $20.00 and we have to pick it up. That isn't local.

Local BP is over $40.00 per pound now. They sell very little and not to anyone in our club.

Graf and Sons charges $25 hazardous materials fee, plus $5 shipping and handling on black powder. Goex and Graf (house brand) powders are $15 per pound, but they are out of stock on just about everything. They do have Swiss at $25 per pound.

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/3501

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DarylS
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Re: Diamondback powder [Re: Tatume]
#185719 - 13/07/11 02:30 AM

That's higher than a year ago (might have been longer?), the last time the BP purchasing thread ran at ALR - funny, powder prices are not increasing up here in Canada.

At 25 pounds (is there any other weight at which to purchase it?) makes the haxmat only $1.00 per pound and shipping brings that to 16.20 per pound. Still not bad compared to our price at $20.00 per 25 pounds picked up, not shipped.

I suspect some of the price increase at Graff's is the de-valued US dollar.

I understood that Swiss powder was quite expensive in the States - available here but at $28.00 per pound I think it is. I'd like to try some Swiss Null B priming powder.

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Daryl

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Tatume
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Re: Diamondback powder [Re: DarylS]
#185722 - 13/07/11 03:19 AM

Hello Folks,

This morning I was able to try the Diamonback black powder in my Parker Hale Volunteer. I'm tickled pink! Couldn't be more pleased with it.

It is very strong. I fired one 14-shot group at 100 yards (because that's how many tubes I have for pre-measured charges of powder). The group was about three inches higher than Goex produces (I'll check it with the chronograph later).

The powder produces good accuracy too; the group, fired hand-held with elbows on the shooting bench, measured five inches (the next time I shoot this open-sighted gun I may bring my Knobloch glasses, so I can see the sights better). These were full-power hunting loads too, 90 gr of FFFg with a 450 gr flat-nosed bullet.

Fouling was about the same as Goex, and it cleaned up just as easily too.

I'll be buying more.

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DarylS
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Re: Diamondback powder [Re: Tatume]
#185726 - 13/07/11 04:23 AM

Higher impact sounds like slightly lower speed. Might only take another 5 or 10 gr. to get the elevation back.

A comparrison on well-rested groups would be interesting.

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Daryl

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