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BillfromOregon
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I'm getting that sick feeling ...
#185458 - 09/07/11 12:02 AM

(Also posted at AR)
Reading a number of threads here and at AR this morning has caused a hare-brained scheme to emerge from the depths of my sick mind.
The thread on reboring vs. rebarreling made me realize that a Ruger No. 1 with quarter rib and banded front sight is the perfect candidate for a rebore.
And what better candidate for this classic "Farqish" design than a .333 Jeffery Flanged?
Biggest obstacle is finding a reboring shop that can cut a .333 barrel. Of course, .338 is an absolute cinch. So the project then becomes a .333/.338 Jeffery wildcat.
Why go to all this trouble?
Romance! Passion! Coolness factor!
I'd be the only guy on my block with such a rifle, and could stuff all available .338 bullets into that wonderfully stout little case, including the big 300-grainers that made the Jeffery's reputation.
I know, I'm a sick puppy.

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Huvius
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: BillfromOregon]
#185462 - 09/07/11 12:26 AM

We hashed this over not too long ago.
I agree that the .333 Flanged would be great fun in a No.1
From the conversation, it seems plausable that .333" bullets can be made from just about any .338" projectile, so sounds like a very doable little project.
I also agree that the .333 Flanged sounds very Farqish but in reality, an original Jeffery Farquharson in .333 is a very rare rifle indeed.

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BillfromOregon
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: Huvius]
#185463 - 09/07/11 12:32 AM

Huvius: Are you referring to John's .318 vs. .333 thread? That's what renewed my interest in these two cartridges. Unlike John, I might be willing to concede the bore diameter and go with .338, but would ream the chamber as close to .333 Flanged as possible.

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500Nitro
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: BillfromOregon]
#185464 - 09/07/11 12:43 AM

I think a 338 based on either of the 333 Cartridges would be a great idea.

And this coming from a traditionalist who owns one of each !!!

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DarylS
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: 500Nitro]
#185468 - 09/07/11 12:59 AM

A .338/333 makes a lot of sense - to me. 2.5" case with .545" base.

.348 case would work but short by 3/10's. If the chamber was cut for the .348 case, it would no longer be a .333Jeffery Flanged, but - would VERY easily duplicate it's ballistics. Of course, the .338/348 is already a US wildcat.

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CptCurl
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: DarylS]
#185469 - 09/07/11 01:02 AM

Bill, you are truly ill and trying to spread the sickness around.

GO FOR IT!

Curl

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bwanabobftw
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: CptCurl]
#185497 - 09/07/11 07:18 AM

Is there anyone that still makes a .333 barrel ? Or anyone that is set up to rebore to .333 ? I would rather have the real deal than a .338/333 flange . Just me.
Robert

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BillfromOregon
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: bwanabobftw]
#185500 - 09/07/11 08:06 AM

Robert: I'm making inquiries on a shop that can rebore to .333, but am not holding my breath. A rebarrel on a No. 1 adds considerably to the cost because of all the fiddling required.

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DarylS
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: BillfromOregon]
#185501 - 09/07/11 09:13 AM

No sure I understand about the fiddling, Bill. Barrel, threads and extractor - same as any other gun isn't it? I'd think a .45/70 or .450/400 extractor would work.

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bwanabobftw
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: DarylS]
#185521 - 09/07/11 09:48 PM

Bill ,
I understand !!! I had a .318 WR (.330) made 10 15 years ago , I bought the guy a custom cutter (he kept it) . Turned into a pretty expensive project(then traded to a friend) Let me know what you find out . If it helps let him know I will take one as well (or let him rebore a bbl.)
Robert
PS just ordered a box of .333 Flange shells !!!!

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BillfromOregon
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: bwanabobftw]
#185532 - 10/07/11 02:11 AM

Daryl: The fiddling involves the quarter rib timing and fit, etc. I had the late and great Chick Donnelly of Siskiyou Barrel Works rebarrel a No. 1 about 15 years ago and he said he would never do another.

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BillfromOregon
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: BillfromOregon]
#185533 - 10/07/11 02:12 AM

Robert: I'm looking for a source of .333 barrels, or someone who can rebore to that diamtere, but might as well watch for .330 as well.

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BillfromOregon
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: BillfromOregon]
#185537 - 10/07/11 03:16 AM

Robert: I have checked most of the usual suspects and see that Krieger offers a 1:12 twist .318/.330 barrel for $310. Lothar Walther also lists a .318 barrel. Still no luck finding a .333.

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bwanabobftw
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: BillfromOregon]
#185622 - 11/07/11 12:00 PM

Thanks , Bill.
Robert

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333Jeffery
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: BillfromOregon]
#186364 - 23/07/11 09:45 AM

Dan Pedersen at www.cutrifle.com makes the proper .333 barrels. Woodleigh makes the bullets, and you can get brass from Bertram. Good luck with your project!

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eljefedouble
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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: 333Jeffery]
#186392 - 23/07/11 09:59 PM

333
Thanks for that info, nope, am not a s/s fan, have only a 222Rimmed martini as a s/s but Pedersen and the 333 barrel has me ears all up...

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Re: I'm getting that sick feeling ... [Re: BillfromOregon]
#186547 - 26/07/11 01:23 AM

Quote:

Biggest obstacle is finding a reboring shop that can cut a .333 barrel. Of course, .338 is an absolute cinch. So the project then becomes a .333/.338 Jeffery wildcat.
Why go to all this trouble?
Romance! Passion! Coolness factor!
I'd be the only guy on my block with such a rifle, and could stuff all available .338 bullets into that wonderfully stout little case, including the big 300-grainers that made the Jeffery's reputation.
I know, I'm a sick puppy.

Sounds good to me.

I hate these threads, as they encourage doubt on firm already made decisions!

Go for it.

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