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carpediem4570
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I shot my new Merkel 141E this weekend
      #177608 - 24/03/11 11:28 AM

Boy, did I have fun this weekend:

My wife and I went up to the cabin this past weekend for four days and I took the new Merkel along with eight rounds loaded up.

Since I did not have a load worked up for the rifle with the 232 grain Norma Vulcans, I grabbed what was loaded; which was eight rounds with a 250 grain Nosler Accubond.

All eight rounds had 56.5 grains of IMR 4064 powder but four rounds were with WLR primers and the other four were WLR Magnum primers.

Since this was not the factory load I was not expecting much. I just wanted to try the rifle for fit, face pounding, felt recoil, etc. Ok, I just wanted to shoot the gun.

I set up two targets at 50 metres, went back to my standing rest and fired rounds off two at a time; right barrel, right target, left barrel, left target, six to eight seconds apart.

The group with the rounds using WLR primers were 3.5 inches vertical by 1.5 inches horizontal. The group with the WLR Magnum primers were 2.5 inches vertical by .5 inches horizontal. I would say not bad for a cartridge with the wrong projectile weight and a random load of powder and primer. I can't wait to see what it will do with the proper load.

I found the front blade sight to be a bit too wide for my taste and I will scope the rifle, as there is one dove tail already cut in the rifle.

Recoil is what I would consider stout however, there was no jarring cheek-slap. The front of my gun jumped out of my hand. To hang on to the rifle, I will have to grip the barrels because the forearm is so slender. I will have a recoil pad installed in place of the plastic butt plate.

Overall, I am in love. She is a keeper. I can hardly wait to take her deer and moose hunting this year.

As I want to mount a scope on the rifle, most likely a Leupold 1-4x20, what kind of a quick detachable scope mount would be available for this rifle? I am a bit confused as to only one dove-tail being cut into the rear of the gun. Is one supposed to remove the rear sight and use that as the second dove-tail or is there a scope mount made to attach to only one dovetail?

As always, comments, questions and criticisms always welcome.

Regards,

Carpediem

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CHAPUISARMES
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Re: I shot my new Merkel 141E this weekend [Re: carpediem4570]
      #177625 - 24/03/11 07:49 PM

Hi Carpediem,

Congratulations, it is always nice to have a new toy.

Quote.: Overall, I am in love. She is a keeper. I can hardly wait to take her deer and moose hunting this year.End Quote.

I am also glad that you will be taking your wife deer and mouse hunting, I could never talk mine into it and also divorce comes at a hefty price..... Just joking.....

Firstly, I was always told that in both the .375H&H and the .450 N.E. 3.25" to use ONLY Magnum Primers and as from your results, it proves the case. You are lucky to have a rifle that will digest "Other" weight projectiles which is a big plus.

Now for the scope and mounts, I also went with the Leupold 1-4x20 with the illuminated "Dot" and wound back to 1 power, you can shoot with both eyes open (if you want) and have an easy to find spot as the aiming mark.

With regards to the mounts, did yours come with the bases installed ?? some do, some don't and if you are lucky to have them mounted, Recknagel is what they are made for. A photo of the rear of the action would help. I went with the "H7" lever on the rear mount ( a small lever ) so I suggest you have a look at the Recknagel website and download their catalogue.

I'm not sure if they will send them to you over the boarder but NECG is the American agent for Recknagel and if that fails check into Importing them and if you are allowed without to much B.S. I will get onto the Australian Agent but there is a postage cost which would be more as it is further to travel.

As for the front site, I am at at the moment waiting on 3 from Recknagel for my Brno 602, well that's my little input, I hope it helps.

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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carpediem4570
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Re: I shot my new Merkel 141E this weekend [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #177672 - 25/03/11 04:20 PM

Hello Jeff:

The rib of my rifle has only one dovetail cut into the rear part of the rib. "There is no second dovetail just behind the rear sight. It appears the rifle has been designed to attach a scope mount to only one point.

I have seen pictures showing a Docter Optik sight but I do not want to use a dot sight. Therefore, do I need to send the rifle away to have a second dovetail cut to tkae a proper QD scope mount?

Regards,

Carpediem

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Re: I shot my new Merkel 141E this weekend [Re: carpediem4570]
      #177680 - 25/03/11 07:42 PM

Hi Carpediem,

That's a Bummer, a lot have mount bases installed. With the Sabatti, they have drilled and tapped holes in the rib with "Grub" screws installed and then you are supposed to install another bit that goes over the rib and fastens using these "Grub" screws. Then you are have a 3/8" dovetail ?? shit, that's good on a .22 rimfire but not on a .450 N.E. 3.25" so I purchased the necessary bases (and rings) then got Alex Beer to machine out the the rib to take the bases and now all is well. I found out that Sabatti had not until they made mine, made that larger caliber rifle so the Aussie Agent was told what I had done and passed it onto Sabatti, changes to followearli.

Anyway, good luck but as I said earlier, you can get different "Blades" for the front sight, mine should be here on Monday.

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: I shot my new Merkel 141E this weekend [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #177682 - 25/03/11 07:58 PM

Have you fired that 450 3.25" yet Jeff ?.
I fired a 500 NE in a Sabatti double the other day and at 9 pounds and was quiet unpleasant.
I still have the bruise on my second finger from the trigger gaurd.

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Re: I shot my new Merkel 141E this weekend [Re: FATBOY404]
      #177684 - 25/03/11 08:24 PM

Hi Neale,

Good to hear from you again, actually no, but I am waiting on the property guy to be free from people working on the property. I think that the .500 N.E. is a lot more of a "kicker" than the .450 N.E. 3.25 even Alex said it was pleasant to shoot in fact, it is the same weight as the .500 N.E. you fired so I am glad about that.

Your old CZ550 is on it's way back again from Melbourne, it went down for a little "Advertising" you might say, all will be revealed in a few weeks if all goes well.

Have you got your trophies back as yet ?? I guess that you and Dad will be looking forward to the day. How did you go with the Warthog trophy, I was told that any of the "Pig" family is not allowed to be Imported now even after decontamination.

Cheers for now Mate,

Jeff

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carpediem4570
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Re: I shot my new Merkel 141E this weekend [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #177697 - 26/03/11 02:26 AM

Chapuisarmes:

Thanks for the help.

I think I am going to have to have a smith mill out a front dovetail and have the proper base installed. Oh well, no biggy, I guess.

Kind regards,

Carpediem

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Re: I shot my new Merkel 141E this weekend [Re: carpediem4570]
      #177712 - 26/03/11 02:59 PM

I didn't shoot a warthog this time.
Our trophies are on their way I think.

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Re: I shot my new Merkel 141E this weekend [Re: FATBOY404]
      #177801 - 28/03/11 03:04 PM

Carpediem,

I'm not sure how the Nosler Accubond is constructed? Does it have a solid base?

Be careful of using any bullets with a solid shank or partition etc, and definitely be wary of using monometal bullets in a double rifle.

From memory I think the accubonds are just the normal jacketed bullet construction so OK.

If I had your rifle, I would forget about the 232 gr loads, and see if a 286 gr or 320 gr load can be made up which shoots accurately and regulates in your rifle. a much more useful round, the 286 grainers, for deer, bear, moose, boar etc.

If you can't get a 286 gr to work, duplicating the 232 gr load would still be possible and would probably work well on lighter deer species, and maybe boar. I think it is silly they regulate the 9.3s for anything other than a 286 grainer. JMO.


As for mounts, what sort of mounts does Merkel sell, and do their mounts fit this sort of rifle? I would start there, otherwise as suggested there are always other custom options.

Sounds like you have a fun rifle, and will enjoy it a lot. The 9.3 is such a versatile rifle, and with a recoil pad, you will find it easy to shoot.

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