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NO frills, lol it will just be a plain working rifle, doesn't need to look good, just shoot straight! Thanks for the help, I will try and check it out online.

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Hi Powdersmoke,

All the guy's have given you sound advice, If I said to you to close your eyes and pay an lesser amount, would you not be happy.??? If the answer was YES, then Sabatti is the answer, truthfully they are the cheapest "New" Double Rifle that I can find as after a divorce, I had to or I would not have been able to afford a D.R.

Forget the current finish, and if that is not to your liking, leave it uncleaned after a shower of rain and then you will have a "Shitty" looking new rifle.

Of all the D.R. manufacturers that I have seen advertising there wares, Sabatti "IS" the cheapest and based on the A$ you can have your .500 Nitro or any of the larger calibers. I got a .450 N.E. 3.25" but if you want to go even cheaper, then go for one of the Sabatti's in 9.3x74 and load it up to the .375H&H spec's.

If you can get them from the states it is cheaper than here in Australia. They have in recent times just added the .450-400 about 3-6 months after I bought my D.R. but I guess that's life.

I am not trying to be nasty, but you seem to think that they are expensive for whatever reason. I will close by saying the only thing you will possibly need to do is replace the recoil pad which is as useless as the tit's on your male Buffalo's.

Oh, I forgot one thing, Once you have decided on the caliber you want, make sure that the ammunition that is available at your end is the "Brand" that the rifle was regulated with. In my case it was regulated with Kynamco which is not available in Australia a point that I made clear with the Australian agent AND Sabatti. They are now using other brands like Norma & Hornady which was a better choice in Australia.

Good luck, you will find it a worthy choice,

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Yeah, a rip off.

I heard quite a few are coming in from the US.

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it as a working gun, my thought was to reload my own, I have been reloading for all my other calibers for some time now, and I feel that I am fairly competent. My question: Is it that much more difficult loading for these NE rounds if the correct powders,and projectiles are available, obviously I have never loaded any "BIG BOY" ammo other than the .458, so I am naturally cautious.

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2nd Question: would both the .470, and the .500 be capable of banging out projectiles of between 400-500gr solids, and softs (I understand that some doubles are limited in projectile grainage, this is more of a general question) at around 1900-2100 fps? Sorry if these are simple questions, but I'd rather know now than when I have to bounce an angry Mbogo, or Ele!
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Yeah, a rip off.

I heard quite a few are coming in from the US.

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I took a different route, found an old double that needed work and am having it rebuilt. I expect to have a working gun for about $2,000.

I just don't have $5,000 to put into a single rifle, so there really isn't any other option for me.

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Buddy, that is the route that I would love to go, but buying a second hand double here in South Africa......... no such thing! I would love to buy one elsewhere, but how do I check to see if it is at least shootable? Tough one, working gun for $2000-00 that is the way to go, well done!

My pricing point is about $4-4500, I would prefer to have a side by side, and I am not familiar with a 450-400, I need to do my homework a bit! Still in the starting phase of this project, but you guys are doing all the work for me, thanks for your straight, honest answers, it really helps.

Regards.

Powdersmoke.

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