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SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies
#174082 - 25/01/11 06:18 PM

I visited Viet Nam in December and was pleased to see some hunting trophies hanging on the walls in various buildings.

Here is a selection.

One species was new to me.

Elds deer. A species related to the Indian Barasingha.

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: NitroX]
#174084 - 25/01/11 06:20 PM

A selection on a wall in a courtyard of the old Presidential Palace in Saigon.

Spotted or Chital deer. But some think it is a sambar? What do you think?

Gaur trophy.

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: NitroX]
#174085 - 25/01/11 06:22 PM

This one is certainly a sambar.

A couple of gaur or banteng. Both species were wild in IndoChina ...

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: NitroX]
#174086 - 25/01/11 06:24 PM

IndoChina also had wild elephant in the past.

Some elephant feet trophies ...

Tusks used as part of the Presidential throne, in the President's audience chamber.

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: NitroX]
#174088 - 25/01/11 06:27 PM

Quote:

Elds deer. A species related to the Indian Barasingha.

Information on Elds deer:

http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/4265/0

Current range of the elds deer in SE Asia:

http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/4265/0/rangemap

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: NitroX]
#174089 - 25/01/11 06:36 PM

Very interesting, John. I have Etienne Ogerri's book, "I Killed for a Living", and whilst I must disagree with some conclusions he drew about hunters and hunting in other lands, and some of his means and manners and judgements of hunting, I enjoyed the stories.

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: Ben]
#174117 - 26/01/11 03:52 AM

Leopard full mount trophy in the President's office in the old Presidential Palace in Saigon.

Jungle Cat, "Felis chaus", full mount trophy in the President's office in the old Presidential Palace in Saigon

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: NitroX]
#174135 - 26/01/11 08:07 AM

Taxidermy's come a long way, eh.

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: NitroX]
#174150 - 26/01/11 10:47 AM

Thanks for the great photos John , did you get any leads on hunting while you were there ?

I hear it is open a little ?

On those heads , I would say the the Spotted Deer is a Sambar type Deer & all the Bovine skulls are Gaur , 2 Bulls & a Cow I think , Gaur/Seladang have a domed skull , Banteng are different on the heap I have seen .

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: Sarg]
#174172 - 26/01/11 06:49 PM

These are good pics ,Rono sent me much the same when he was there also..it must be the 1 stop for tourists eh!

I think that is an Axis JH if that is a tail underneath though the antler config suggests sambar. A quick measure or comparo of the two skulls would tell you.

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: gryphon]
#175521 - 15/02/11 05:00 AM

antlers suggest sambar.

shoddy taxidermy job on the cats.

i see the way of presenting trophies is so different in 'nam.

Different to americas, Britain, mainland europe, africa and the subcontinent.

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: shooter]
#175549 - 15/02/11 05:27 PM

At least 35 years old. Lots of crap taxidermy 35 years ago in all sorts of countries.

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Re: SE Asian Deer Species and other trophies [Re: NitroX]
#175562 - 15/02/11 08:54 PM

Let's just say the mounts are really stuffed!

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