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vegard_dino
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The 28 gauge, today?
      #169881 - 19/10/10 11:13 PM



Hello all.

I do like the stalking for birds here, black bird, black cock and so.
Now I do use a Sauer S/S in 16/65, great neat gun to carry all day.

But, the 28 gauge is even lighter......But, is it to light gauge for hunting?


I do like the light feeling of a double 28 gauge gun.

All help is great.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #169890 - 20/10/10 12:29 AM

I have used the 28 over my pointers for both Sharp tail grouse and pheasants--works great---have to be a bit more precise and the 16 has, at least it seems, greater range..

the only pitfall here in the US, is the cost of 28 is more than 20 or 12 per box..

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: Ripp]
      #169893 - 20/10/10 01:30 AM



Hi

Thanks for the information.

Yes, the cost. Not so many use it anymore I guess.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #169960 - 21/10/10 07:29 AM

I once had a dandy 28b double and enjoyed using it. I sold it. My bad!

Now I have to be happy with a 12 or 20.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: CptCurl]
      #169962 - 21/10/10 08:27 AM

I have a little Merkel 201 O/U 12 gauge, which was always muzzle light and difficult to follow through with when swinging through a bird or clay target. I bought a pair of 28 gauge full length tubes for it from Briley, and now it balances perfectly and shoots like a house afire. It's my favorite dove shooting gun.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: xausa]
      #169985 - 21/10/10 07:58 PM

For Black Cock and Capercaillie, I think 28 gauge might be pushing things a little. At least in the dense forests we have around here.

Also, at least here in Norway, anything besides 20 and 12 gauge is starting to become very hard to find. Even 16 gauge shells are uncommon in probably the majority of small town shops, let alone 28 gauge.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: EricD]
      #169993 - 22/10/10 02:27 AM

In the US, 28 gauge is one of the four bores (12, 20, 28 and .410) used for skeet shooting, so there is probably better availability here than for 16 gauge, which is not a skeet caliber.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: xausa]
      #169995 - 22/10/10 02:36 AM

My late hunting buddy, Brad, had a Ruger 28 bore that was a delight to carry and shoot - grouse or clays, it really hammered them. A beautiful little gun.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: DarylS]
      #169996 - 22/10/10 03:27 AM

I love small bores. The 28 bore is the 'sweet spot' of upland bird hunting.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: DarylS]
      #169998 - 22/10/10 03:30 AM

Vegard, I wanted to start my son shooting (9 years old). I bought a full size 28 bore AYA No.4 and had the stock shortened (kept the sawn off bit for later obviously). I took him out to shoot some stationary targets to start but pattern was rubbish. I was using 15 gram loads, moved up to 21 gram, no probs. The first partridge shoot we went on I shot a few and told him the next one was his. Unfortunately when it came it was almost straight over, slightly right to leftish, but bloody high. I thought "First shot on a moving target at that height...no chance but what the hell". You can imagine my utter astonishment when the little bugger plucked it out of the sky with one shot !! The Spaniard on the next peg whooped and I nearly cried. Lovely little guns but Iīll stick with a 20, I canīt shoot well enough,
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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #170081 - 23/10/10 08:03 PM



Hello all.

Thanks for the info.

Well, as sad, the 28 gauge ammunition is VERY hard to find here in Switzerland and even harder in Norway. GUess I have to start loading myself I am going to get a 28......
Maybe the best small bore is the 20 gauge. Having ammunition in mind. But, the Spanish makes some very nice 28 gauge.....Hmm.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #170119 - 24/10/10 06:41 AM

Never shot a 28-gauge, but I started off with a .410 side by side and shot very well with it. Better than later when I used a 12 gauge. The range would have been shorter though. Still got it. An ugly little shotgun but it did the job and was great fun. External hammers and folds back on itself for the "poacher's greatcoat". The extractor broke and did not use it for a long time, but had it fixed a year ago. This post is motivating me to look for some ammo for it again.

Can't say whether a 28 gauge would hit hard enough for the birds you mention but other knowledgeable members have already commented on that.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: NitroX]
      #170165 - 24/10/10 06:38 PM

Nitro, Prince Charles who is a bloody good shot (mind you, we all would be with his practice) uses almost solely a pair of 28 bore purdeys for his Partridge and pheasant shooting, best, Mike (p.s. he calls them his "pea shooters". They evidently arenīt !

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #170169 - 24/10/10 07:58 PM



Hi

I am sure your .410 will be happy to back.

There is a charm with these small bores. I really do like the way the 28 gauge looks and feel. Small, easy, handles well and so. The Spanish makes some great 28 gauges. (Have to look into those makers more.)

If HRH did find the 28 gauge to serve him well, I am sure I will do so to. Guess it is all down to how well I shoot.......Yeah...Hm.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #170187 - 25/10/10 12:14 AM

i have a 28 guage sidelocked sxs with 26 inch barrels i hunt doves with. im a better shot with it than my 12. ammo isnt a problem here it runs 10.00 a box and i keep a supply on hand.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: pod]
      #179412 - 19/04/11 09:52 AM

Being an owner/breeder/trainer/hunter/triler of Brittanys I often do a lot of what our US friends term 'upland' hunting here in Australia. That usually consists of chasing our native Stubble quail as well as rabbits, hares, & the odd released partridge & pheasant.
Unfortunately we dont have any Ruffed Grouse over here - piuty. I'd love to have a go at them as I reckon they would be the perfect upland bird.

Anyway, for years I used a lovely little Begium B25 Browning 12ga chocked open mod & tight mod (18thou bottom barrel & 24thou top). This is a really lovely gun with 1 1/16oz loads going through it's 27 1/2 inch barrels. Just a real joy to use.

However, a couple of years back I bought a nice 2nd hand Beretta 687 Silver Pigeon 20ga.
It has 30 inch mobil choke barrels. I've been using this with 1oz 10's & have found that my quail hunting has never been so good. Light to carry (both gun & shells), easy on the shoulder, & the 10's kill quail extremely well even at 40-45 yard distances with very little damage to the carcass.
It's also a great rabbit gyun with 1oz 5's & excellent for partridge with 1 1/16oz 6s.
I even use it for pheasants with 1 1/8oz of 4's or 5's with excellent success.

Based on my experience with the 20ga I wouldn't hesitate to go down to a 28ga for quail, rabbits, partridge. Would love to one day get hold of a nice 28ga SxS.
Unfortunately, over here, most 'sub 12 gauge' shotguns are either expensive quality pieces or cheap rubbish. Something like a nice Ruger, Beretta, etc would offer quality at reasonable cost.

I 'spose they will come along eventually but I hope they're not too far away.
As an aside, I did have a chance to pick up a nice 28ga Winchester 101 many years ago but just couldn't afford it back then, apart from which, at the time 28ga loads were all but non-existent in Oz. Love to get my hands on that gun now.

Bill Allen
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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: BillA]
      #179420 - 19/04/11 11:59 AM

It's a bit of a departure from the fine doubles but Benelli has introduced a 28ga autoloader. Its one of their higher grade models, I would like to see it in a plainer version along the line of their Montefeltro.

Bill,

You should post some pictures of your Brittanys. I've got a couple of Frenchies, great field dogs.

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Re: The 28 gauge, today? [Re: SharpsNitro]
      #179422 - 19/04/11 12:03 PM

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Bill,

You should post some pictures of your Brittanys. I've got a couple of Frenchies, great field dogs.



Only new here.
Give me a bit of time to get used to the site & I'll get some pics up for you.

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Edited by BillA (19/04/11 12:04 PM)

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