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Pheasant thread hehehe!!!
      #163415 - 05/07/10 09:12 PM

This is not an official thread but I will be away this weekend with our esteem leader NitroX shooting up a few pheasants (hopefully). A few others as well deep in the Victorian south west. Should be a hoot.....

I'll try and get some pics in between the shootin' Hopefully we'll be pleasant pheasant pluckers

There's even talk of a mankini

What happens on the pleasant pheasant pluckers shoot stays on the pleasant pheasant pluckers shoot.

Cheers,
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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: MarkR]
      #163418 - 05/07/10 09:37 PM

Have fun!

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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: Ben]
      #163687 - 08/07/10 09:46 PM

You southerners have some strange traditions!!

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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: Matt_Graham]
      #163696 - 09/07/10 01:18 AM

Off to slay some pheasants tomorrow.

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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: NitroX]
      #164029 - 14/07/10 07:37 AM

Had a ball and put some faces to names. Drank too much Rum.......

Enjoy,
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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: MarkR]
      #164126 - 14/07/10 08:37 PM




Arrived late on Friday night, the other guys arrived from 3 pm to just on or after dark. When I arrived they had had several hours of time to warm up with beer, rum and port.

Rained over night and rained most of the next day. Properly clothed though it was not too cold.

Started at around 9 am and was instructed by Stuart. Guns to be carried loaded but broken. Forty pheasants and six chukars had been released that morning or the day before.

I was lucky and took the first bird of the day. First blood on Sunday as well, so lucky. About five drives in the morning. Yabbie I think took a left and a right. Good shooting by him, but I had the first line lined up, then it died, moved to the second, then it was gone as well. Too bad!

I choose to use my Tikka Under and Over the first morning, but thereafter used the Azhur Side by Side. Had been shooting better with the U/O at clays recently, but the Azhur did OK Sat afternoon and very well on Sunday morning.

Dropped another bird that morning, perhaps a couple more, though at least one was shot simultaneously with another shooter.

Loved the way the birds rocketed straight up out of the tussocks with their tail feathers streaming behind.

Lunch back at the hut, the at 1:30 pm another series of drives.

More fun, a few misses, too many. The wind was still blowing hard. Took at least one bird in the afternoon.

One of the drives during the day, I could see two or three cock pheasants moving in the tussocks and knew they would be coming out soon. Two came out almost at the same time. Walked to the last tussocks and wondered if there was a third or not, and yes there was, the cock exploding out from the bracken at my feet. I missed!

End of the first day's shooting was 29 pheasant taken and 5 chukar.

Saturday night down to the pub after getting a shower at Tim's place for all of us at My Gambier, about 35 kms away. Lots of heavy rain over night including hail, a bit worried about getting my car out the next day. Most guys had their 4WDs but two us of brought 2WD. In the end a third track out was a lot dryer with better drainage.

Sunday morning had some sun at times, and no real rain. Quite a difference from the previous day.

First drive, we split into two groups of three, I was with Jeff's group, with Yabbie and Adrian (I think). Took the first bird flushed with the right barrel, I think another bird taken by us, and a third by the other group on the fenceline. A second drive the opposite direction from the far end of the paddock near the forest, one bird flushed but escaped. Then back along the fenceline. A chukar flushed by a dog in front of me, but flying directly away, my shot puffed its arse feathers, but Yabbie took the rocketing chukar with a classic crossing shot, the bird beautifully lit by the sunlight.

A drive through the middle of the forest and asked to walk a track right by the forest, Stuart came over with a dog and worked some tussocks and another pheasant burst out from behind. Pleased to take it with the first shot, Yabbie firing just after.

Off to the far corner, then back again, and a cock pheasant was seen running along in front. We never got that one to flush, but another flushed by the powerlines and was the last bird of the weekend.

Good fun for the weekend and everyone enjoyed it and I think will do it again. I certainly will be.

Some of my photos


Typical pheasant country.


English Spaniel working the field


A wet first morning. From left: Adrian (Gatsby), Mark (MarkR), Tim (Blacks), Andrew (Yabbie), Me, Tony (duggaboy).


Stuart with Yabbie and Gatsby (oz)


English Spaniel, eager and well trained. A movie star having appeared on the cover of the Field & Game magazine.


English Spaniel, an old boy whom still enjoys the hunt.


Lucy feeling a bit damp.


Sunday morning, one of the last drives.


There's a pheasant in there ...


Typical tussock country.




Side by sides were used as well as some under and overs. On the left, Tony's Beretta 20 gauge. On the right, my 12 gauge Azhur.


A few clays at the end of the day before dark.


Our accommodation.


Reliving the days shooting.


The Last Pheasant of the weekend ...


Lucy the GWP cooling off.


Lots of colourful cock.


Chukar Partridge


End of the shoot.



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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: NitroX]
      #164131 - 14/07/10 09:25 PM

So how'd they eat?

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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #164138 - 14/07/10 09:50 PM

Well-done!

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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #164147 - 14/07/10 11:33 PM

Quote:

So how'd they eat?




Still in the fridge and then to the freezer. So you will have to wait.

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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: NitroX]
      #164148 - 15/07/10 12:00 AM



Ondra Pheasants website



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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: NitroX]
      #164155 - 15/07/10 01:08 AM

I do love the Springers. Miss my "Foxton's Lady Jessica".

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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: DarylS]
      #164170 - 15/07/10 05:49 AM


Fun with the campfire chums..


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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: rigbymauser]
      #164195 - 15/07/10 10:24 AM

Pheasant pluckers all!

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Re: Pheasant thread hehehe!!! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #164220 - 15/07/10 08:55 PM

Forgot to take some photos of the pheasant plucking and sticking fingers up the birds ...

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Pheasant Shoot Interest for 2011 ? [Re: NitroX]
      #165112 - 28/07/10 11:02 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I will be doing a similar shoot to this next year, on the same weekend.

But I am interested in seeing, are there any NE members whom are interested in doing another weekend shoot next year in 2011?

South Aussie shooters? We could drive down. Victorians, or from elsewhere?

Just seeing if there is any interest. I may see if a group of local shooters are interested in putting together a group as well.

Go for it.

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Re: Pheasant Shoot Interest for 2011 ? [Re: NitroX]
      #165425 - 02/08/10 07:53 AM

I would be interested if shoot was a little earlier in the Winter.

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      #165514 - 02/08/10 03:27 PM

TP,

Quite possibly earlier if it can be organised and dates permit.

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Re: Re: Pheasant thread [Re: NitroX]
      #355214 - 16/07/21 06:35 PM

While this thread is open. Anyone shooting any pheasants anywhere?!

I see there is a "new" (to me) shoot North of Melbourne. They only have five or six shoots a year and cost about $1000 per person! I reckon they easily sell out anyway, even at that price.

"Bongo" on the internet said he shoots pheasant somewhere in Victoria. Maybe I can tag along if he remembers. Not sure where his shoots happen. Allegedly one must be attired in tweed for those shoots. I do now have a tween English shooting vest, maybe two now if the package in the post is there. And an Italian tweed Beretta shooting coat. Can't see myself ever wearing breeks ... Aussie moleskins may have to do.

Of course the dreaded lurgy covid is the fun killer of these times, actually the oppressive govts we have with un-necessary controls is the fun killer. Probably here to stay forever if govt has its way ...

One hopes travel outside ones little stalinist district is possible again in the future. And pheasant shoots interstate!

PS There are probably SA pheasant shoots. But SA officialy bans the breeding of birds for release for shoots so ... very much secret mens business ....

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Re: Re: Pheasant thread [Re: NitroX]
      #355221 - 16/07/21 11:29 PM

Have to day, probably my favorite bird hunting of all.. great fun watching the dogs work, birds flying, comradery with friends... Its a great time..

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Re: Re: Pheasant thread [Re: Ripp]
      #355263 - 17/07/21 09:11 AM

Yes , Ohio Division of Wildlife turns Pheasants loose each fall several times on various state game lands.
Lots of fun!
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      #355283 - 17/07/21 03:42 PM

I was going to ask if they are native to North America?

Most pheasant come from Asia I believe. The most popular colourful is of Chinese origin I believe?

Imagine a govt dept which RELEASES pheasants for mere citizens to shoot???!!! WOW!

Here it would be a very secret men's business activity. In SAUST that is. Victorians can do it, and perhaps other states.

Here in SAust, we may have had big live bird shoots in the past. And it was probably banned completely, ie breeding birds to shoot, when pigeon shooting became clay pigeon shooting.

We still have a duck season though. But no quail this year. The current liberal (socialist) minister is a c@nt, and thought no one would be upset if he didn't declare a quail season ... anti hunting c@nt. The duck season was cut back as well "because of duck numbers and the drought ... ".

Raining well now for a while. Hopefully we continue to have good rains this year.

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Re: Re: Pheasant thread [Re: NitroX]
      #355287 - 17/07/21 04:34 PM

The pheasants we have here--Nebraska, USA--seem to have first come up from a relased population in Kansas (state to the south of Nebraska) about 1910 or so. Over the next decade, additional birds were released on an intermittent basis: some years a few hundred, some none. In the 1920s, a few thousand a year were released, most years. First season was in 1927, limited to areas where the population was judged to be strong enough.

Most hunting in Nebraska these days is of wild birds. Game and Parks is releasing a bunch of birds in some wildlife management areas that have been designated for youth hunts, to try to provide more opportunities for youth to hunt. There are a few private game farms where birds are released ("planted")for shooters. Driven shoots on the English model are almost unknown, although a local variant was done occasionally in the '40s and '50s.

As might be expected, the best populations are in areas where small grains are grown: in this part of the state the focus on corn and soybean production has cut populations far below what were seen in the '60s and '70s. Weather this year could have been better, but the numbers I'm seeing while out driving around have been pretty good.


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Re: Re: Pheasant thread [Re: Jim_C]
      #355294 - 17/07/21 11:33 PM

Where I hunt they are native..have been there for over a 150 years.. same throughout areas like SW North Dakota and most of South Dakota along with Iowa..South Dakota is one of the most fun pheasant hunts you can do.. tens of thousands of pheasants.. Ring-neck pheasants..

I found this when searching on the origin of pheasants in the US.. they were introduced a very long time ago...and really took off in certain areas..They need habitat.. When I lived in N Dakota.. the CRP (crop reduction program) was introduced paying farmers to leave the soil idle on lighter soil land.. seeded to grass which would grow 3-5 feet high over the summer.. I started raising pheasants and releasing them on neighboring farmers fields with their permission.. within a few years, and thankfully, calmer winters, we started seeing them everywhere.. was great to see..


History:

The first ring-necked pheasants introduced into the United States arrive at Port Townsend on March 13, 1881.
By Kit Oldham Posted 12/31/2007 HistoryLink.org Essay 8444


n March 13, 1881, around 60 Chinese ring-necked pheasants arrive in Port Townsend aboard the ship Otago. United States consul general Owen Nickerson Denny (1838-1900) and his wife Gertrude Jane Hall Denny (1837-1933) have shipped the pheasants, along with other Chinese birds and plants, from Shanghai in hopes of establishing a population in their home state of Oregon. Most of the pheasants succumb as they are transported from the Olympic Peninsula to Portland. A few survivors are released on the lower Columbia River, but accounts differ as to whether this population survives. However, the Dennys ship more pheasants in 1882 and 1884, successfully introducing ring-necked pheasants into Oregon's Willamette Valley and on Protection Island in Jefferson County near Port Townsend. The colorful game birds prove prolific and popular. Ring-necked pheasants spread throughout Oregon and Washington and are introduced in states across the country, becoming so common that they seem more a native species than one first established in the United States in 1881.

Oregon Pioneers

Both Owen and Gertrude Hall Denny were pioneers who traveled the Oregon trail as children to new homes in the Northwest. Several accounts, including Virginia Holmgren's 1964 history, Chinese Pheasants, Oregon Pioneeers, make a direct connection between the Dennys' pioneering spirit and desire to improve the land they settled and their decision to introduce the pheasant pioneers to the new world.

Gertrude Hall's childhood pioneer experience was particularly dramatic. As a 10-year-old who had just crossed the continent by wagon train, she was staying at the Waiilatpu mission at the time of the attack that became known as the Whitman Massacre. Gertrude's father, Peter D. Hall, is listed among the 14 killed, although his precise fate remains a mystery. He escaped from the mission and made it to the Hudson's Bay Company's Fort Walla Walla, but was denied entry and never seen again. Gertrude and her mother and four sisters, like most of the women and children, were unharmed but held captive for a month before being ransomed. By the time of her death 86 years later, Gertrude Hall Denny was the final survivor of the Whitman Massacre.

Owen Denny was born in Ohio and traveled west with his family in 1852, the year he turned 14. (There is no indication that his family was closely related to the Denny family from Illinois that landed at Alki one year earlier, helping found the city of Seattle.) Owen's father died soon after his family reached the Willamette Valley, and his mother took a land claim near Lebanon in Linn County, Oregon. Owen worked his way through school and "read law" with practicing lawyers. After passing the state bar exam in 1862, he was a prosecutor and then a judge in The Dalles.

Owen Denny and Gertrude Jane Hall White married in 1868 -- Gertrude was amicably divorced from her first husband, Columbia River pilot Captain Leonard White, and had a 12-year-old daughter. The Dennys lived briefly in California and then settled in Portland, where Owen was elected police court judge and later worked as Collector of Internal Revenue. In 1877, Denny was named United States consul in Tientsin, China.

Chinese Pheasants

After three years in Tientsin, the Dennys moved to Shanghai in 1880 when Owen was promoted to the post of consul general. By that summer, they were considering an attempt to introduce to Oregon some of the exotic birds and plants they had encountered in China. The ring-necked pheasant, a large dramatically colored wild bird that frequented the farms and fields around Shanghai, was an obvious choice. Males have shimmering gold and green plumage on the back, an iridescent dark-green neck above a dramatic white collar ring, red eye wattles, ear-like feather tufts, and a long sword-like tail. Females are a more subdued brown and black but also have the distinctive pointed tail. In addition, Owen Denny wrote to a friend, "These birds are delicious eating and very game and will furnish fine sport" (Holmgren, 15).

Recounting his decision later, Denny described how he obtained the pheasants:

"The Chinese farmers ... take them with nets and market them alive, but the fact that they were often poor and thin induced me to purchase them by the dozen and feed them until they were fat and fit for my table. On one occasion I had in my inclosure a large number of extraordinarily handsome birds, and while admiring them I thought, What would I not give to be able to turn the entire lot adrift in Oregon? Then and there the resolve was made" (Shaw, 12).

In January 1881, the Dennys loaded some 60 ring-necked pheasants aboard the Otago, a Port Townsend-based ship commanded by Captain Royal. Their shipment included smaller numbers of Mongolian sand grouse and chefoo partridges, "16 trees of the Pang Tao or flat peach," and "a lot of bamboos" (Holmgren, 15). The Otago reached Port Townsend on Sunday, March 13, 1881.

Almost all the pheasants survived the ocean journey but not the subsequent trip to Portland. The Oregonian reported:

"The birds were kept in the hold and withstood the trip well. Only a few died; however, in bringing them from Port Townsend to Portland they fared badly. While in the dark vessel they were quiet and unfrightened, but when in train and boats, rattling and splashing scared the birds, which beat and bruised themselves on the bars" (Holmgren, 16).

A. H. Morgan, a friend of the Dennys, released the few surviving ringnecks on Sauvie Island in the Columbia River near Portland. Although later accounts suggest that these first pheasants did not establish a breeding population, an 1888 U.S. Agriculture Department report says the pheasants released in 1881 "wintered well, and have been increasing ever since. They are now common" (Merriam, 486). The grouse and partridge did not survive, but the bamboo shipment was a success: 83 years later, Holmgren wrote "quite a few present stands in Oregon and southern Washington can trace their rootage back to the wicker tubs that were stored aboard the Otago that January day" (p. 15).

Pheasants Flourish

Perhaps unsure how the first pheasants were doing, the Dennys made a second effort in 1882, sending more ring-necked pheasants and other Chinese birds directly to Portland. Owen's brother John Denny released those ringnecks near the family's Willamette Valley homestead in Linn County, and this time the introduction was a clear success. Within a year, ring-necked pheasants had spread to surrounding counties. Owen Denny used his political connections to win passage of state legislation banning hunting until the population was sufficiently established. The pheasants thrived and when the first pheasant season opened in Oregon in 1892, hunters reportedly bagged 50,000 birds on the first day.

By then or soon thereafter, ring-necked pheasants had spread into Washington. In addition, birds from a third shipment, which the Dennys brought with them when they returned from China in 1884, were released on Protection Island, not far from Port Townsend where the first pheasants had landed three years earlier. The ringnecks flourished on the island and apparently succeeded in crossing the Strait of Juan de Fuca to colonize Vancouver Island.

Following their success in the Northwest, ring-necked pheasants were introduced across the country, many of them descendants of the birds Denny sent to Washington and Oregon. At least 19 states now have sizable pheasant populations. South Dakota, which has millions, has made the ring-necked pheasant its state bird.

For a time after their introduction the pheasants from Shanghai were often referred to, especially in Oregon, as Denny pheasants (or as China pheasants). The name honoring the Dennys did not prevail, but, in addition to Gertrude’s status as a Whitman Massacre survivor and Owen’s position as a diplomat in China (and later as an advisor to the king of Korea), the Dennys are still recognized for their role in making the dramatic sight of ring-necked pheasants common across America.

This essay made possible by:
The State of Washington
Washington State Department of Archeology and Historic Preservation



Chinese Ring-necked pheasants, Coloured figures of the birds of the British Islands by Lord Lilford (R. H. Porter, 1885)


Owen N. and Gertrude Hall Denny

Courtesy Oregon Historical Society


Owen N. Denny (1838-1900)

Courtesy Oregon Historical Society (ba000362)


Ring-necked pheasant (Phasianus colchicus)

Courtesy Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife


Ring-necked (China or Denny) pheasants

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      #355295 - 17/07/21 11:40 PM

Montana-- years ago with my now deceased friend, Wayne..
Img_0136 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

Kate --
20141207_110245 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

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      #355298 - 18/07/21 02:13 AM

Great pictures, Art and a wonderful 'history' lesson too.

I hunted ring-neck pheasants in South Western Ontario when I was a kid in the 60's. A great eatin' bird.

I have even seen a couple here, in PG area. Not sure where THOSE came from, but they are here, but not in big numbers. I've never seen one when out hunting, though, just on the road to the in-town range. Surprised I was, the first time.

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