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An ideal hunting "triple"?
      #16033 - 21/06/04 01:07 AM



The Quadro “Big Five” Africa Drilling comes in the double rifle drilling configuration and features two big bore rifle barrels placed side by side with a 20 gauge 3” chambered shotgun barrel centered below it. For example, a QUADRO “Big Five” in .470NE / .470NE / 20ga/3” would be a typical and useful caliber/gauge combination for Africa.

Other calibres:
.375 Flanged Mag NE / .375 Flanged Mag NE / 20ga/3”
.500/.416 NE / .500/.416 NE / 20ga/3”
.470 NE / .470 NE / 20ga/3


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What do you think?



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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: NitroX]
      #16035 - 21/06/04 02:47 AM

I say skip the shotgun and take

470 NE
375 flanged/375 flanged

As you can see I go for the Blaser concept with one over and two under

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: NitroX]
      #16477 - 07/07/04 02:55 PM

Nitro, depends upon the weight. I think it will be too heavy unless it may come with the 9.3x74 with 20 or 12 ga. Keep it 9# or under
I like my new Searcy better in 470 with an extra set of 12 Ga barrels for about $13K total

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: Peterb]
      #16485 - 07/07/04 09:16 PM

BTW: what is the weight of your Searcy .470 ?

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: 338X74R]
      #16498 - 08/07/04 08:34 AM

The 470 is right at 10 pounds. The shotgun will be 7 1/2+

A 9.3x74 would be much lighter

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: 338X74R]
      #16499 - 08/07/04 08:38 AM

Here is my idea of a three gun Battery.

A 500/465 Holland, a 369 Purdey and a 303 Watson Bros.



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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: mickey]
      #16503 - 08/07/04 11:26 AM

But Mickey you would need at least one gunbearer if not two for all three.

Actually I had a gunbearer for my .450 Jeffrey on the weekend .



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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: mickey]
      #16535 - 09/07/04 09:23 PM

That is one good looking Watson Bros 303..
What about some more details or better still I wonder if a sight for members favourites would work..
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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #16546 - 10/07/04 12:37 AM

Here is an ideal Aussie battery - a trio of Dan'l Fraser's!



A "composed" pair of .303 Doubles, and a .22RF Falling Block.

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #16573 - 11/07/04 02:22 PM

Watson Bros are neat guns. I have a Watson BLE 12 ga and a Watson Martini 297/230 Morris. They are still in business

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: Peterb]
      #16588 - 12/07/04 03:24 AM

I would have thought more people would have been interested in the Purdey. Here's a better picture of the Watson. David Winks, from Holland, said it looked like one of their rifles that they made for Watson Bros.



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Edited by mickey (12/07/04 03:56 AM)

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: 470Rigby]
      #16589 - 12/07/04 04:01 AM

470

Here is a picture of my Daniel Fraser. 400 3 1/4. These are the same action but I know little about them. do you have any details?





PS I love the peep site, is it original and does it have a front leaf that it shoots through or over?

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Edited by mickey (12/07/04 04:04 AM)

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: mickey]
      #16623 - 13/07/04 12:52 AM

how to you guys like the 303 doubles? when I finish my 600 bolt gun I am going to convert an old WJ jeffery shotgun to a double rifle. 303 is the calb I was thinking of. Its an old hammer double that has seen better days so I shouldnt be hurting anything. ( i got it cheap)
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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: mickey]
      #16698 - 14/07/04 12:46 PM

Mickey

As far as I know, Daniel Fraser made his own actions, and externally there are several distinctive features such as the shape of the toplever, the serpentine fences and fancy action back that made them “stand out from the crowd”. His high-grade boxlocks were finished internally to a high standard; the equal of the best London sidelocks. For example, both of the .303’s in my photo have gold-plated lockwork, and this is common on Fraser’s guns. To my mind, his early best-grade boxlocks are better finished and more desirable than London sidelocks,. To this day, I have never seen or heard of a Fraser sidelock, so maybe Fraser had similar predilections?

The action reinforce on your .400 is similar to the type often encountered on Birmingham-made boxlock doubles, signed by the likes of Midland Gun Co. and is reminiscent of a Fraser that I saw once that had a pair of 28 bore shotgun barrels made for it by someone else.

I would be interested to know the Serial No. of your Dan’l Fraser .400 to see whether is was of later production, after old Daniel had carked it?

About the aperture sight; I believe that the purpose of many of these sights was not for use as a traditional “peep” sight, but rather to provide an optical device for improving “depth of field” for ageing shooters that have trouble getting target, foresight and backsight into focus simultaneously. By necessity, they have to be mounted further back near the eye for this to work. Consequently, the backsight does not fold down; although I have seen some that do. In this case, the aperture is usually quite narrow, and mounted further forward (sometimes on the toplever pin – in the case of Purdey) and usually a fold-down rear leaf sight is fitted, presumably for

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: deant]
      #16699 - 14/07/04 12:48 PM

deant

I have been able to get most.303 doubles shooting with bullet weights ranging from 124 grain Taipan HP’s to 215 grain Woodleigh RN SP’s and that allows for a fair variety of quarry species! They come about a light as British nitro doubles do, usually weighing in the order of 9 pounds; only affairs like Holland & Holland’s .240 Flanged Magnum coming in much lighter at around 8 pounds.

Built properly, they handle like a good British shotgun, and on “herd” animals (in Oz, that is skippy’s, goats, pigs etc) hunted in cover there is always the prospect of a good old fashioned “bomb-up”! Hence the need for a pair – and a loader of course!

As I said, ideal for our hunting here! Maybe we lack things that lacerate (pigs can have their moments!), but we do have quantity, and NO trophy fees!

You might ask, what is the 22RF for???

Well, being inherently parsimonoius, and having a intense dislike for reloading anything that doesn’t pay an adrenalin dividend, there is always the (odd) cripple to put down!

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: mickey]
      #16700 - 14/07/04 12:55 PM

Here's my guess on the action: Double Purdey underbite, standard Anson & Deeley, 3rd bite I cannot make out from this angle (vitually all double rifles have a third bite), side clips, clam shell ....now it gets a bit iffy as the undermetal has a bit of the Westley Richards influence. Some of them had neat replaceable triggers which would drop out. Good idea on a double in case one broke. Neat gun but looks heavy. 12-13 pounds???

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: Peterb]
      #16703 - 14/07/04 01:46 PM

In reply to:

side clips, clam shell



Side clips yes but I cannot see any clamshell.
Perhaps you're looking at the "shoes" of the shoelump barrels?

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: mickey]
      #16705 - 14/07/04 01:57 PM

In reply to:

Here is a picture of my Daniel Fraser. 400 3 1/4.


Mick
Daniel Fraser or Alex Henry?

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Re: An ideal hunting "triple"? [Re: 470Rigby]
      #16706 - 14/07/04 02:04 PM

470R,
nice trio of Frasers but that peep looks a tad uncomfortable to me.
I mean there aint much room left on the top of the grip!

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