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jcs271
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Source for express sights
      #160040 - 06/05/10 07:56 AM

I am trying to do a 12 bore conversion on a Baikal SxS 22" 12ga. What is a good source for express type sights to mount on this rig. Thanks

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Re: Source for express sights [Re: jcs271]
      #160041 - 06/05/10 08:00 AM



NECG ?

There is another one in the US but can't remember the name.

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Re: Source for express sights [Re: 500Nitro]
      #160045 - 06/05/10 12:39 PM

http://www.z-hat.com/express_sights.htm

Anyone who sells Recknagel products.

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Re: Source for express sights [Re: tophet1]
      #160059 - 06/05/10 08:37 PM

Brownells carries express sights.

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Re: Source for express sights [Re: Tatume]
      #160063 - 06/05/10 10:13 PM

Jeff's outfitters has a few express sights as well.
Jeff's Outfitters

Colin

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Re: Source for express sights [Re: CowboyCS]
      #160066 - 07/05/10 01:13 AM

The Z-hat link's sights look about right and the same as the one I bought from Brownells in 1986. The one I got was 3 leaves + one standing, for 4 sights total - not needed for a 12 gaube smoothbore.

I suggest 2 at most for a 12 - but then, a single is all that's really needed. If shooting slugs, you'll need an 'extra' leaf for the same effective range as round balls, due to the drop experienced.

With a 1,500fps load, black or smokeless (smokeless kicks about 1/2 as much), and sighted 1" high at 50 yards, the balls will strike on zero at 78yards and be only 2.3" low at 100 yards. 100yards is about the max range for a 12 bore smoothbore for deer, moose or elk.

With rifled tubes, I'd go with a standing sight and single leaf, giving 80 yard zero, and 125 yard zero. That should cover effective range for open sights.

The gun and cases will actually handle round balls to about 1,800fps to 1,900fps, if you want that sort of recoil and would really flatten the trajectory.

At 1,900fps, the ball's trajectory is as follows - 1.1" high at 50 yards, 1.1" high at 75 yards, 0 at 100 yards, and 2.6" low at 125 yards, thus 100 and 150 yards would be good zero ranges. Zero'd at 150, it's 3" high at 125 and 5" low at 175yards.
As far as energy goes, 4,368 at muzzle, 3,528 at 25 yards and 1,852 at 100. The BC is .089, by the way.

This is with a .715" pure lead ball only, at 1 1/4oz.

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nitro450exp
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Re: Source for express sights [Re: DarylS]
      #160069 - 07/05/10 02:44 AM

Hello,

I bought a single leaf from Dakota Arms.
Not sure if the still have them and since the company has changed hands, who knows.
I added a 1/4 rib to my IZH43 12ga SXS and a front ramp.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productImages/thumbnail/912114.jpg

Good luck !

Nitro450exp

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