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Rockdoc
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1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H
      #159336 - 22/04/10 09:55 PM

This is my 1913 Holland and Holland Takedown in 375H&H. The action is a magnum Mauser.

The case is a little sad!

My apologies for the poor photographs. I will have to take some nice ones when I get the chance.

The rifle weighs 8 1/4lbs, handles beautifully and is a delight to shoot and carry, even with the hard butt plate.

Cheers, Chris










Edited by CptCurl (25/04/10 10:46 PM)

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: Rockdoc]
      #159338 - 22/04/10 10:06 PM

Hi Chris,

A very nice and original Holland & Holland .375. If you ever decide to get the case remade, I suggest that you give a call to www.emmebi.it and they will make the case identical. As for the Trade Labels, if you do get the new case, I will dig out the site that possibly has them.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #159341 - 22/04/10 10:43 PM

Chris,

What a Beauty!

It doesnt get any better than this.This is like having the first edition of origin of species.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: Rockdoc]
      #159352 - 23/04/10 04:01 AM

Now this is a rifle I would love to own.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: dons]
      #159353 - 23/04/10 04:12 AM


Very nice indeed. The way Holland's do the quarter ribs is unbelievable.

I had one with the other method of take down.


Re the case - I have found most look like that as they
seemed to be the most used guns.

Personally, it adds character to the package IMHO.

Apart from adding some polish, they only other thing I always did was get stitching re done so it didn't get any worse and we are lucky in that we have a guy local to me who does a superb job of repairing cases.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: 500Nitro]
      #159365 - 23/04/10 04:09 PM

That is a real beauty and the book it sits on a classic too. Lucky you and hope you have some fine hunting with that. I say hunting as it would be just a pleasure to carry and a bonus to shoot. Thanks for sharing it with us. A good project to restore that case.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: eagle27]
      #159372 - 23/04/10 09:49 PM

Has the barrel a V, buttress or square thread?

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: kamilaroi]
      #159375 - 23/04/10 10:45 PM



Interesting that they made it on a Magnum Mauser.

Anyone reason why ?

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: kamilaroi]
      #159376 - 23/04/10 10:53 PM

Thanks for all the very positive comments. It is a lovely little rifle (funny to say that about a 375H&H) and fits like it was made for me. I would imagine it was ordered in 1912, must get the paperwork from H&H. I know who the first owner was, he lived in a castle in Britain (name and castle on the lid of the case). He had part of his right thumb (or all of it) blown off in an army accident - he was making up a sulphur for wasps in his tent, if I remember correctly, and it exploded! He eventually moved to Africa and died in Sth Africa in 1961.

The information in the case lid is interesting too, I shall post the photos, giving takedown assembly instructions, and the standard load and tropical load of MDT.

Barrel length is around 23 1/2" and it has been very professionaly hollowed in the butt for balance.

The fixed blade rear sight is sighted for 50/200yds, the folding for 350yds.

Kamilaroi (they got around the Kamilaroi didn't they!)I have asked a better authority regards the threads.

I am in no hurry regards the case, but would like some sympathetic restoration completed in the future.

Best wishes, Chris

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: kamilaroi]
      #159377 - 23/04/10 11:41 PM

From the photos, the threads appear to be the normal Mauser 55 degree V form threads. They are certainly not square threads, and I have never heard of buttress threads being used in a rifle receiver (except in the case of the Ross and Newton rifles, where they were used as bolt locking lugs).

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: xausa]
      #159405 - 24/04/10 11:46 AM

Friend said 60 degree V threads, but could be 55, 2mm pitch.

Cheers, Chris

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: 500Nitro]
      #159407 - 24/04/10 11:56 AM

Quote:



Interesting that they made it on a Magnum Mauser.

Anyone reason why ?



500Nitro. That's a very good question. I would assume that with the exclusive agreement that Rigby had on magnum Mausers ending in 1911, couple with a new long cartridge, they may have felt it necessary? Perhaps they went with the magnum for the new cartridge as it didn't require extensive modification?

Not sure as I don't have any information with me. I'm not sure if any records of Hollands that I have seen distinguish between standard and magnum length actions by serial number. It would be interesting to ask them.

I will write to them and get their records of the rifle and ask the question re standard versus magnum length builds.

Cheers, Chris

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: Rockdoc]
      #159478 - 25/04/10 10:50 PM

A lovely rifle! I'm envious.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: Rockdoc]
      #159663 - 29/04/10 04:11 AM

Chris,

A most amazing treasure! No the case isn;t sad - everyone who owns the gun is sad that it (with the case of course) isn't in their gunsafe. At the same time, of course, we are very envious of you and most happy for you at the same time. Congratulations and good hunting!

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #160903 - 23/05/10 06:37 PM

Talk about a great piece of history. If that rifle and case could talk. RockDoc that is a very exquisite rifle and case and I hope you get to take it for a hunt in Africa.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: Rule303]
      #162117 - 15/06/10 09:52 AM

Undeniably a fine firearm. Very Nostalgic.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: gpsb]
      #162142 - 16/06/10 12:50 AM

Beautiful beautilful gun indeed.
Holland & Holland made all their .375 magnums on magnum-mausers only up around to 1920 or 1921.
The triggerguard, if one notice, is the original largebow that Mauser produced. H&H later made their own which were a little smaller and had a different profile. For me , these largebow triggerguards, witness classic Mauser from their heydays.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: rigbymauser]
      #162145 - 16/06/10 02:54 AM

Classic all the way.

That rifle will last another 100 years.

RockDoc, I sent you a PM.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: Grenadier]
      #162348 - 19/06/10 04:02 PM

Very nice.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: NitroX]
      #162599 - 23/06/10 11:38 AM

Beautiful rifle mate! I am drooling all over my keyboard.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: BigBoreRS]
      #162636 - 24/06/10 12:16 AM

That is a wonderful rifle and an excellent find.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: 500grains]
      #196807 - 15/12/11 04:06 PM

Hi Chris nice to see the 375 again!cheers Mark

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: markinnz]
      #196870 - 16/12/11 07:02 AM

Beautiful rifle

Can anyone tell me when H&H started offering bolt handles like this on their 375 rifles?





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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: 458Win]
      #196871 - 16/12/11 07:14 AM


I had a 275H&H like the OP's gun, has a ripper stock on it as well just like the above.

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Re: 1913 Holland & Holland Takedown 375H&H [Re: 500Nitro]
      #196883 - 16/12/11 08:18 AM



Beautiful piece of history!

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