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Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62
      #155273 - 02/03/10 01:51 PM

I'm having a 9.3x62 barrel made for my Empire Rifles take-down (a mate for the existing .30-'06 barrel) and I'm starting to look at scopes. I've been using a 3.5-10x40 Leupold VX-III with the B&C reticle on the .30-'06, which I think is a great match for the rifle and cartridge, and I'd appreciate some input on a scope for the 9.3 to try to get another good match.

Originally I was planning on using a 1.75-6 Leupold VX3 until I saw their 1.5-6x24 VX7. It's quite a bit more expensive but considering what I've got in the rifle & spare barrel it doesn't seem out of line. The tube on the VX7 is 30 mm. I'm not sure if that adds any real function, but it got me looking at the Leupold European 2-7. That scope seems to be a 30 mm version of the VX2 series and not the same quality as the VX3.

Anyway...I'm open to suggestions and Leupold's not the only brand I'd buy, it's just the one I'm most familiar with. I like having a scope that matches well with its intended use & cartridge (nothing makes me crazier than seeing a short-barreled "ultra-light" rig wearing a 6-18x50 scope) but I'm not experienced with the 9.3x62 and don't want to under-scope it (maybe a 2.5-8 is a better choice?).

Thanks in advance for your comments.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155275 - 02/03/10 02:15 PM

Hi taw1126

A little off topic but are you happy with your Empire Rifle ?

Bob

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155277 - 02/03/10 02:20 PM

Mate , I beleive a 2-7, 2.5-8 or a 3-9 would be perfect for the caliber.
I have a 3-10x42 Swarvo on mine but as a rule it doesnt go over 7 power and walking in the timber I have it on 4 or 5 power. I would of liked a 3-9 but got the 3-10 cheap.
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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Empire375]
      #155283 - 02/03/10 03:34 PM

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Hi taw1126

A little off topic but are you happy with your Empire Rifle ?

Bob


Yes, at least partly because I got such an outrageous deal on it. Mine is a field grade with the Kevlar stock and coated stainless, not one of the really fancy ones with gorgeous wood...but I just sold a Winchester M70 Custom African Express that I could hardly stand to take out of the safe for fear of damaging the beautiful stock on it. That said, the fit & finish is excellent, and all the components are highest-quality. The stock has the right amount of cast-off to line everything up well, and the square-bridge receiver incorporates some well-designed QD rings (as well as a detachable peep sight). The action is smooth and the trigger is the best I've personally owned.

If I could change something about the rifle, it would be incorporating an interrupted-thread design for the takedown (but in reality, unless the rifle is going on a fairly long trip, or I'm switching between calibers, the TD won't even get used much). If I could change one thing about the company, it would be to hire some additional staff or otherwise increase their responsiveness...the owner (George Sandmann) is apparently trying to do too much by himself and it shows in their follow through on the "small stuff" like getting additional scope rings, or issuing a work order to get this new barrel build started. Thankfully the product isn't suffering, and they are apparently getting in plenty of orders so this doesn't seem to be a situation where they're distracted due to financial troubles. The responsiveness is an annoyance and can be frustrating, but those feelings fade away much faster than if the problems were with the rifle itself.


EDIT: I just saw your user ID...you have an Empire Rifles 375 H&H?

Edited by taw1126 (02/03/10 03:37 PM)

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155284 - 02/03/10 03:57 PM

Hi taw1126
I have an Empire rifle on order and your comments in your last paragraph is exactly the reason that I ask. I feel maybe George is trying to do too much also and on account of communication (lacking) I even cancelled the rifle once but a very polite email from George made me feel like a prick so I continued the order. I really wanted to be more involved with this rifle but it seems it wont be the case which is sad.
If the rifle is as good as people say then I guess it will be worth it. However the next rifle I order will be somewhere that is perhaps more responsive to my needs (I sound like my wife !!)
George tells me to expect the rifle mid year which means he is bang on schedule which given how difficult he is to talk to/get hold off surprises me.
I've no doubt George is financially sound but he desperately needs someone else with him to do the small stuff. However I'm trying to buy a premium rifle at a good price and the savings must come from somewhere.
Solution - spend more money next time and insist on more input.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155300 - 02/03/10 06:53 PM

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Originally I was planning on using a 1.75-6 Leupold VX3 until I saw their 1.5-6x24 VX7.

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Thanks in advance for your comments.



I'd go for something in a quality brand close to a 1-4x but those listed above would also be good.

1x for close hunting, the 9.3mm is a fine brush/bush/driven game calibre. The 4x for usual range hunting a 9.3mm might be used for.

I have a couple of 1.75-6x Leupolds on my rifles.

I don't have any but I would personally look at a Schmidt & Bender or Swarovski.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: NitroX]
      #155323 - 03/03/10 01:55 AM

Initially I had a 2x on the 9.3x62, which worked perfectly. Now, I use a Burris 3-9 Fullfield with stadia wires, but haven't sighted them in yet. The extra wires aren't needed for shooting to 300yards with this round.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155329 - 03/03/10 03:17 AM

My CZ 9.3x62 has a Leupy VXIII 2.5-8 on it. I have used
the 8x at the range, but have never used it higher than
5x while hunting. The 1.75x6 would be a great choice as
would similar powered Swarovski or S&B.
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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Raff]
      #155332 - 03/03/10 03:36 AM

They are starting to sell off the Swarovski AV and PV lines now that they have been replaced by the Z3 and Z6. I would look into those - the AV 3-9x36 can be had new for $800 or less now if you look around and the PV 1.5-6x42 can also be found for a bit more if you search.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #155369 - 03/03/10 01:03 PM

I've got a Pecar 3-7x35mm in Optilock Extra Low mounts on my Sako AV 9,3x62mm... German no 4 reticle.

Even though it has a steel tube, it is still quite light and doesn't make the whole rig feel unbalanced. Very happy with it, bought it nearly new just before Pecar closed their doors.

I generally carry it around on 3x (I have a thing about seeing the front sight with 1.5x scopes!) but can crank it up for longer shots if required.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155376 - 03/03/10 02:23 PM

Have you looked at the Nightforce 1-4x24mm? I have one on one of my 375s and like it a lot. If you want a bit more magnification they have a new 2.5-10x34mm that looks interesting.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Empire375]
      #155392 - 03/03/10 04:12 PM

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Hi taw1126
I really wanted to be more involved with this rifle but it seems it wont be the case which is sad.
How do you mean? Picking options, getting more information on the rifle's progress, etc.?

George tells me to expect the rifle mid year which means he is bang on schedule which given how difficult he is to talk to/get hold off surprises me.
How long ago did you order it?

I'm trying to buy a premium rifle at a good price and the savings must come from somewhere.
Solution - spend more money next time and insist on more input.
I really thought Empire Rifles were on the high end, price-wise, unless you went with some storied Bond Street name. With high-grade wood and a few options I think you'd easily clear $10,000 US though I doubt it would be twice as good as the Custom African Express I mentioned earlier. Are you planning on going Holland & Holland, Rigby, et. al. for your next rifle?





Thanks for comments on scopes so far...looks like I was in about the right magnification range to start with. The more I look at the 1.5-6 x 24mm VX-7 the more it seems to be the right choice. It's got more eye relief than the Swarovski and Schmidt & Bender models I looked at and a wider magnification range than the Nightforce (I didn't even know they made a 1-4x scope). I haven't made a final decision yet, but finding the Leupold for $811 tonight certainly helped.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155394 - 03/03/10 04:27 PM

I'd be having a look at the 1.5-6x42 Kahles if you can find one.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155395 - 03/03/10 04:28 PM

Still of topic (sorry)
I wanted to be involved with where it went for what (not choosing, just knowing) as I believe a lot of the work is farmed out. I would have liked to know the rifles progress. I guess it would be just nice to get an email saying what is happening this month and where. It gives me a diversion from regular stuff and builds the experience so to speak.

I ordered the rifle around June 09. I was happy to wait a year because as I said its an "experience" and a build up to the arrival day. I guess its a little like waiting for santa when your a kid !

I comfortably cleared $10,000.00 US by the time I specced it out. I doubt its twice as good as the Custom African Express either but once again its built for me and my tastes and it wasn't made in a factory in China or Taiwan like most other things these days.
My next rifle if I can afford one will come out of London or Birmingham without any doubt although I have just read a book on David Miller & Co and would dearly love a rifle from them.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Empire375]
      #155413 - 04/03/10 12:06 AM

My favourite is a 1,5-6X42, either Zeiss or S&B, German reticle 4. The Swarovski is overpriced IMHO.
Just my opinion.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Kalunga]
      #155472 - 04/03/10 03:32 PM

I have a Swaro fixed 4X on one and a Leupy 1.75-6X on the other.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Antlers]
      #155488 - 04/03/10 06:46 PM

I use a 4x36 Schmidt&Bender (No;4) and 1.5-6x42 Schmidt&Bender (Illuminated) on my two 9.3x62's .

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155502 - 04/03/10 11:49 PM

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and a wider magnification range than the Nightforce (I didn't even know they made a 1-4x scope).



I have a Nightforce 1-4x. The close to true 1x is a real advantage for fast shooting.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: NitroX]
      #155511 - 05/03/10 04:23 AM

There are times when a 4X is handy, as in seeing twigs that are closer to the animal and threading bullets into the vitals at distance but more power than that has never been needed on any big game rifle - that I've used. Binocs are for spotting and counting points - scopes are for shooting.

When guiding, I was constantly telling clients to turn down their scopes so they didn't get 'caught' at 9X in the bush.

The 'best' variable scope for a 9.3x62, I think, would be something like a 1x-3x, 1x-4x or 1.5x-4X. Once powers get higher, having them in the wrong power setting starts to happen. In fixed power, a 3x or 4x is about right, in my opinion.

All that said, I do like the 9x setting of my Burris for load testing- even though increasing the bull size and using 4X gives the same groups sizes with the same loads. Being able to see the bullet holes with the higher magnification scope is handy, even though the spotting scope is sitting right beside me when checking loads.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: DarylS]
      #155512 - 05/03/10 04:37 AM

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There are times when a 4X is handy, as in seeing twigs that are closer to the animal and threading bullets into the vitals at distance but more power than that has never been needed on any big game rifle - that I've used.



I think 4x is a great all-around scope. WIth the exception of this recently-acquired 3.5-10x I've never owned a scope with more than 8x magnification...but on an antelope hunt a couple of years ago I wanted a little more.

One of the primary reasons I'm looking as high as 6x for the 9.3x62 scope is that I'm getting close to drawing a Utah bison tag. That's a big animal, but some of the shot opportunities seem to be at relatively long ranges and I don't want to risk ruining a once-in-a-lifetime hunt for want of a little better sight picture.

All that said- the 2.5x scout scope on my .358 Ruger is one of my all-time favorite optics. Like some of you guys, I spend a good bit of time hunting thick stuff and like to shoot two-eyes-open for everything...it's easy to do with the 2.5x but more challenging for me at 8x and 10x.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #155518 - 05/03/10 06:08 AM

I agree with Daryl that more than 4x is not needed for shooting at big-game. The advantage of a 1,5-6x42 compared to a 1-4x24 is the bigger objective lense and the resulting better light-gathering capability. At least here in Germany we most often hunt in rather bad light conditions, the animals start moving just before it is getting dark.
Usually I have my scope on 2,5x, sometimes more but almost never at 6x. If I cant`t see the animal with 4x, it`s just too far away for me to shoot at it.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Kalunga]
      #155529 - 05/03/10 08:48 AM

G'Day Fella's,

TAW 1126, I personally don't like physically large scopes on my hunting rifles.
Now most of my hunting is done as stalking in either bush, on the edge of open country or above the bush line, in alpine regions.
The Hunting calibers that I use for this hunting, go from the .25-06 to the .404 Jeffery.
My all time favorite scope is the Leupold Vari X-III/3 in 2.5-8 x 36 (I think I have 5 of them), with the 1.75-6 x 32 coming in second for the bigger bore diameters.
I personally believe either one of the above Leupold's on your 9.3, would make a great combination!

At last count I have 4 various Swarovski rifle scopes on my hunting and shooting rifles but I still prefer the compact size and light weight of the above Leupold's!
One of the reasons for this is, if I have a big fall and damage the scope, it is still a cheaper option to have a spare Leupold in QD rings, back at camp waiting to install, than to have Only One Very Expensive Buggered Scope, on my Only Rifle!!!

Hope this helps?

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Homer]
      #155575 - 05/03/10 07:01 PM

I use a 1.1-4 illuminated Schmidt & Bender (the Zenith model) on my 9,3x62 and see no reason for anything more for this caliber. Although a 1.5-6 would be fine too. The 9,3x62 isnīt super flat shooting, but a good enough big game cartridge out to 200-250 meters in my opinion. I see no need for more magnification.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: EricD]
      #159029 - 16/04/10 02:23 AM

I ended up getting the Leupold VX-7 with a magnification range of 1.5-6x. After going back & forth on the reticle, I ended up getting a standard duplex...but I think the "circle dot" reticle could be a good one too.

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/vx-7-riflescopes/vx-7-1-5-6x24mm/

The size of the scope and the magnification range seem to be well suited to the rifle and cartridge (I probably said it somewhere above, but I don't like "big" scopes) and I'm sure the scope itself will perform as well as my other Leupolds.

That said, when the scope arrived and I had a look through it, there was something inside the tube. I really couldn't believe what I was seeing so I cleaned the lenses, peeked through the scope again, and ran through the range of magnification. Sure enough, there was a "speck" of something in the bottom left quadrant that disappeared at higher magnification.

My first thought was that I'd bought a counterfeit...I only paid $811 for a scope with an MSRP of $1,100+. A call to Leupold's customer service confirmed that the scope was legit, and they emailed a prepaid overnight return slip to me while we were talking. They emailed me when the scope arrived, emailed again the same day with the diagnosis (the problem was "a metal piece from the reticle housing inside the erector system"), and overnighted a replacement back to me the following day.

I'm surprised that one of their top-of-the-line scopes left the factory this way, but I have to give them credit for jumping all over the problem and fixing it very quickly. If I didn't have a fairly long and entirely satisfactory history with their products I might be really concerned right now...but as with most things in life, people/products/companies that have earned your trust are usually given some leeway when a problem comes up.

I used this opportunity to get my complimentary custom shop service done as well, having a 9.3x62 BDC dial fitted. Don't know how entirely useful that will be, but it seemed more worthwhile than having my name engraved.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #159104 - 17/04/10 11:52 AM

Guess I'm old-fashioned. I have a Weaver K 2.5 on my Husqvarna 9.3 x 62.

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