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whitey
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Arietta SXS 28 ga.
#154418 - 22/02/10 09:53 AM

Do to someone making a mistake and bulging a barrel a little on a beautiful fully engraved etc 28 ga SXS. I got it for a possible future DR project.And I asked on another site before I knew about this site. Whew!! a couple nice guys tried to help but got a lot of private PM'S etc with a lot of animosity.SO will try here.
Any suggestions as to Cal that this action would be safe for. And further No big bore cal. Just something I could have fun building to shoot some paper targets sometimes. thanks in advance Whitey

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Carpetsahib
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154437 - 22/02/10 12:30 PM

Nothing wrong with a .30-30, .32-40, .25-30...Would be a lot of fun, nothing intense.

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whitey
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: Carpetsahib]
#154438 - 22/02/10 12:38 PM

Thanks and 25-30.??? Whitey

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AkMike
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154439 - 22/02/10 01:02 PM

I'd be tempted to go 38-55. That's a great old cartridge that still works fine. A .375 tube even!

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whitey
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: AkMike]
#154440 - 22/02/10 01:06 PM

Thanks Mike now am getting some good ideas. Whitey

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AkMike
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154441 - 22/02/10 01:25 PM

Grab a copy of "Cartridges of the World" to start to get an idea of the sizes you'll be needing for the cases ect. It lists alot of the ones that have ever been made.

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whitey
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: AkMike]
#154446 - 22/02/10 01:47 PM

Thanks again Mike have the book. But Never involved with DR's action strength size etc. So was hoping for more information from the experts. Thanks Whitey

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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154450 - 22/02/10 02:18 PM

LMAO, I'm not an expert but I know that I don't want anything big or hot in something that small. Hopefully Mr Vella or DarylS, real `smiths will add to this.
The 38-55's I have are in Ballard single shots, one of the weaker actions of that era. I would not load it to the pressures of the 375 Winnie even though the cases are very close to the same.

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whitey
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: AkMike]
#154452 - 22/02/10 02:28 PM

The big thing is I want to be safe.As I said I am a real novice to the DG bug.But have picked up several furture project guns in 20,16 and 12 gage. And at 73 nothing but time on my hands. And plan on doing most of them myself. I Hope. Smile Whitey

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AkMike
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154453 - 22/02/10 02:33 PM

Well if you're 73 then you know what a sweetie the 38-55 is and the rep. it had as a 200 yd tack driver. It's a low pressure round that would work it that 28 ga I'd guess.
The next step lower would be the 32-40, 25-20 or 22 hornet.

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whitey
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: AkMike]
#154457 - 22/02/10 02:41 PM

I do have some 32-40 stuff. and for maybe a 20 ga some 30-40 Krag.And am thinking of a O/U in
6X70R. Whitey

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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154464 - 22/02/10 03:47 PM

7-30 waters would be fun.

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ReverendRecoil
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: baileybradshaw]
#154467 - 22/02/10 04:09 PM

303 British would be hard to beat in a light double gun. How about 6.5x57R?

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peter
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: ReverendRecoil]
#154507 - 22/02/10 11:20 PM

whitey

have you contacted arietta about a new barrel set instead ? they have a really good reputation for fixing other peoples mistakes on their guns

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that way you will have a really sweet 28 gauge and a possible monoblock for the rifle build.

best

peter

P.S a few pictures would be nice

Edited by peter (23/02/10 12:30 AM)

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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: peter]
#154509 - 22/02/10 11:51 PM

Peter has the right idea, the best possible solution, by far. An Arietta is too fine a firearm to chop up, except as an absolute last resort! Heck, my hands shake when it's time to take a hacksaw to the barrels of a BRNO or a Laurona !!! You'd end up with a wonderful 28 gauge and then could build a rifle on the monoblock created from the damaged barrels at your leisure.

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whitey
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: Ron_Vella]
#154523 - 23/02/10 02:20 AM

Thanks fellows yes Arietta will fix. Long wait and not too cheap. Others have said easy fix as it is a very small problem. BUT I am not interesed in owning a 28 ga shotgun as I do not hunt anymore just shoot the paper targets.
Pete if you want pictures email me at whanson@plainstel.com

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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154581 - 23/02/10 09:22 AM

Important question, does the Arietta action have a third fastener, hidden or not? I would personally not even consider building a rifle on an action that does not.

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whitey
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: Ron_Vella]
#154585 - 23/02/10 11:18 AM

Ron I honestly don't remember and it is not here now. Maybe someone else knows. But I would think
a 5 thousand dollar gun. Would be built pretty stout.? Whitey

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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154646 - 24/02/10 04:13 AM

Peter is spot on, an Arrieta is too sweet for this, best, Mike p.s. AYA make barrels for Arrieta, AYA will make you a spare pair of double rifle barrels for a 20 bore in a variety of not too intense cartridges (whether they will do this for a 28 bore I don't know). I considered buying a pair of barrels in .44 Rem Mag for the 20 bore AYA No.1 I bought last year.(all the rifle barrels are brought in from Austria or Belgium) Extrapolating from the above I guess Arietta might be able to supply you with a pair of regulated barrels if you sent them the gun ??

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whitey
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: Mike_Bailey]
#154663 - 24/02/10 07:34 AM

Mike again thanks. I know I can get new barrels etc. In fact I think this tube would be a easy fix. BUT I am not interested in a shot gun set of barrels. And I want to try and do the DR project myself.Sounds like a neat fun project. Whitey

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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154849 - 26/02/10 07:49 AM

Man it's you'r gun do with it what you want. My view is thAt there is no shortage of shot guns in the world. And you can always buy a set of tubes for it. Secondly the set you have are damaged, they're a better choice for conversion than an undamaged set. I would go with a 30-30 or 30-40, block size is your limit. Your only rechambering a set of damaged barrels, the gun is still viable.

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whitey
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: BlainSmipy]
#154851 - 26/02/10 10:40 AM

Thanks Blain if and when I use the Arietta. I will probably use the original set of barrels for conversion. And I do like your cal choices. Whitey

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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: BlainSmipy]
#154883 - 26/02/10 06:47 PM

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I would go with a 30-30 or 30-40, block size is your limit.

Forgive my ignorance, Blain, but what do you mean by block size? I take it the .30/40 case has a smaller head than the .303 British, which has a spiffier name for this purpose, if nothing else.

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BlainSmipy
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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: Paul]
#154919 - 27/02/10 05:27 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I would go with a 30-30 or 30-40, block size is your limit.

Forgive my ignorance, Blain, but what do you mean by block size? I take it the .30/40 case has a smaller head than the .303 British, which has a spiffier name for this purpose, if nothing else.

Mono-block, "block", thickness at the breech to allow enough metal to ream/cut the chamber.

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Re: Arietta SXS 28 ga. [Re: whitey]
#154943 - 27/02/10 10:04 AM

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Do to someone making a mistake and bulging a barrel a little on a beautiful fully engraved etc 28 ga SXS. I got it for a possible future DR project.And I asked on another site before I knew about this site. Whew!! a couple nice guys tried to help but got a lot of private PM'S etc with a lot of animosity.SO will try here.
Any suggestions as to Cal that this action would be safe for. And further No big bore cal. Just something I could have fun building to shoot some paper targets sometimes. thanks in advance Whitey

I know this other site, and have to say, there are some real jerks there. I never visit that site anymore, not worth the grief. Hopefully, none of those clowns will migrate over to here.

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