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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: 4seventy]
      #153348 - 11/02/10 12:58 PM

Beautiful work. I've been wanting a DR in .22 for years, but I want a .22LR or magnum. What I'd like to have is similar contours to a .410 shotgun, walnut stock and express sights-maybe 25, 50 and 75 yard leaves. Ideally a full rib and regulated for a common round like Federal bulk-I get nice groups out of my scoped bolt action, better than CCI match grade actually.Expensive project if it ever goes beyond the "I'd love to have one" stage.Also well beyond my skill level.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Shackleton]
      #153800 - 15/02/10 02:49 PM

Damn snow knocked out the power to my shop for three days....But I did have power at my home, so I brought her home to tune up the triggers. Take note of the springs. The coil springs I was using were just a touch too wide for the frame opening, and rubbed when removing the trigger group. I replaced them with Belleville washers. They are washers that are cupped. The cool thing about them is the amount of power they have in such a small space. These washers are significantly stronger than the coil springs. Plus, they allow fine tuning of the resistance by stacking them in parallel ( facing the same way). Not to mention, with 36 on each pushrod, there is a lot of redundancy so failure will never be an issue. They look cool too. Only drawback is they are expensive, $1 each.



Here is the trigger group partially inserted into the frame.



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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #153878 - 16/02/10 11:50 AM

Very Pretty! I really envy your talents. Bob H.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Birdhunter50]
      #154014 - 17/02/10 02:46 PM

A folding peep sight....bad pictures, but the sight work nice.





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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #154015 - 17/02/10 02:52 PM

Bailey that's looking really sweet.
Good for you!


Back when I was a jeweler and designer 20-odd years ago, I loved the last hours of the projects the most - where everything came together as a unit and the projects took on their own character and life.
At times I'd feel the severance more than others when I handed the work off to the clients.

I can imagine you're feeling relatively proud of yourself on this particular rifle, and I'd guess there's just a little pinch of attachment to this one.





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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: tinker]
      #154019 - 17/02/10 03:19 PM

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Empire375]
      #154130 - 18/02/10 04:00 PM

What a bummer. Logged on specifically to see how this was going. No pictures visible, period. When I originally ran across this thread, no problems viewing any of the pictures. Now zip. Any chance of checking that out and getting pictures I can view?
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baileybradshaw
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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: JOAT]
      #154170 - 19/02/10 01:30 AM

All the pictures show for me...

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #154181 - 19/02/10 05:15 AM

Quote:

All the pictures show for me...



I have no explanation at all, but all the pictures are visible to me today. All I can say is it must be my computer trying to drive me nuts. Sorry about that.

Lovely work, now I need to go back and read the whole thing over again. Very awe-inspiring.

Thanks

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Edited by NitroX (19/02/10 11:46 AM)

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: JOAT]
      #154187 - 19/02/10 07:14 AM

I had the same problem yesterday, many pictures in many threads weren't showing up.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: 9dot3x74R]
      #154223 - 19/02/10 06:19 PM

The internet and some servers can have glitches from time to time.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: 4seventy]
      #154279 - 20/02/10 04:46 PM

WOW!!!!

This has been fantastic to watch and you deserve to be extremely proud of your achievements Bailey well done and I sincerely hope this is the start of a legacy.

Regards,

MOG

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Cinghiale]
      #159302 - 22/04/10 03:05 AM

Thanks for the kind words everyone. It has certainly been my pleasure to share my work.

I am a couple of days away from boxing her up and sending her off. Last thing to do is finnish the scope rings and do the final mouning of the scope. I designed and made the rings. Quick release by pressing the button on the side of the rear ring and slide backwards about 1/2".

From here, I will blue the rings, lap them for proper scope fit, and mount/sight in the scope.

Thanks again!!





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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #159314 - 22/04/10 09:17 AM

Stunning!

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: kamilaroi]
      #159838 - 02/05/10 03:30 PM

Beautiful rifle. I'd personally skip the scope(usually) but it's a nice option to have, and when the scope is removed the mount looks to be MUCH more discreet than a Weaver base. .22 hornet is a fun round, just got into it with a 10 inch TC Contender barrel, nice to see it in a classic design, properly proportioned for the cartridge. Thanks for the thread.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Shackleton]
      #161537 - 06/06/10 01:32 AM

It's finished. Been a ton of fun to build this little rifle. I sent it out yesterday to be reviewed by Chuck Hawks.

Before sending it, I double checked the regulation and sighting in of the scope. Final group at 50yds....



We have a range setup in a pasture behind my shop. One of the targets is a 18"tall steel pig siloet. The pasture fence to the pig is 220 yds. Standing, off hand, one shot from each barrel rang the steel. I like to use this as a hunting simulation as it looks and feels more real than a paper target. The hornet doesn't have a lot left at that range, but you can see the imapact marks.





Shots were about 8" apart. I wasn't shooting for a group, just mounted, and let em fly. I am pretty happy with it's accuracy.

Here's a few final pics.













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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #161538 - 06/06/10 02:02 AM

Congratulations! It looks nice. I would love to see it in hand and shoot it. Maybe some day. Do you have orders for other builds?

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: CptCurl]
      #161541 - 06/06/10 02:45 AM

Curl,

yes, I have 6 firm orders. Next one I am currently working on is a .22K-hornet with second set of .410 shotgun barrels. Another is a 3 barrel set with damascus action. Calibers will be .22 K-hornet, .410 shotgun, and .357 maximum. May add a 4th set in 6X70R.

The response has been great, and when more guns are delivered, I hope orders will roll in more frequently. One thing I am accutely aware of is the reluctance to place and order with a maker who has yet to prove delivery and service. That is just a matter of time, and I certainly understand it.

Nothing would thrill me more than to HAVE to hire help. Being a Navy veteran, I would like to hire a vet with gunsmithing experience. Marine armoror or Navy gunner's mate. All is due time....

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #162550 - 22/06/10 11:57 AM

I just received this email from Rocky Hays. He is part of the gunsmithing staff for Chuck Hawks. The did a test firing of this rifle and will write an article on it to be up soon. I thougt it important to include the whole e-mail showing issues with the rifle as well as the good stuff. The issues are correctable and will be taken care of as soon as it's in hand.

"Bailey,
We got the Hornet out to the range for test firing, and we're all finished. It's boxed up, and I'll ship it via UPS Ground tomorrow (Tuesday); I'll send you the tracking number
We were not able to find factory Remington ammo; the only ammo we could get was Stars & Stripes, 33 grain speer tnt's. The gun shot very well with this ammo, although it
was about 2 1/2" high at 50 yds. The regulation on the gun seems to be perfect--I don't think you could tune it any better. Good job. We shot it at 150 yds and 200 yds; it
shot under 2" groups at both distances--still about 2 1/2" high and 2 1/2" right. If it were my gun, I'd probably zero the scope at 100 yds for the 33 grain ammo
We had some problems with the triggers. We measured the front trigger pull at 5 pounds and the rear trigger at 7 1/2 pounds; both trigger pulls seemed excessive. And the
trigger pull did affect the accuracy of our shooting--the left barrel (front trigger) shot tighter groups than did the right barrel. You told me how to remove the trigger pack, but
we did not remove it, and we made no adjustments on the triggers. When we dry fired the gun to test trigger pull, the right firing pin remained protruded and was catching the
extractor so that we couldn't open the gun. Also, the right firing pin seems a little high, as it is making drag marks on the casings
The staff really liked this little gun, and loved the idea that it was made with Damascus steel--it was very pretty and very unusual
It may be as much as a month before the article on your gun is posted; I will send it to you as soon as it's up
Rocky"

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #162586 - 23/06/10 08:02 AM

Quote:

When we dry fired the gun to test trigger pull, the right firing pin remained protruded and was catching the
extractor so that we couldn't open the gun.



They were dry firing your new double?
What were they thinking!

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: 4seventy]
      #162589 - 23/06/10 08:39 AM

It matters not. With rebounding hammers, it won't hurt it. The pesky firing pin is an easy fix.

I thought it funny they shot it at 150 and 200 yds. Glad it shot well at those ranges, but that little 33grain bullet doesn't have much left at 200yds. Nice to know if that once in a lifetime duiker pops out at 150, you can hurl some lead with confidence.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #162631 - 23/06/10 11:25 PM

I'm surprised the rebounding hammers/pins doesn't cause pierced primers. Perhaps the pin is depressed long enough for the pressure to subside somewhat.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: DarylS]
      #162635 - 24/06/10 12:11 AM

Those petite doubles are a joy to swing on target.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: 500grains]
      #167418 - 08/09/10 06:05 PM

B E A Utiful is all i can say.
will the gun stay as it is ie without a complete rib. or will a rib get added latter on.
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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Sniper]
      #167421 - 08/09/10 06:27 PM

A very fine bit of work Mr Bradshaw!

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