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rigbymauser
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Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL
#152124 - 29/01/10 09:28 AM

I have bought this mauser a year ago unseen for aprox US$275, from a guy that lives some 500 KMs away from here.
This is however the first time I see pictures of it. The gun was described to me over the phone, but I never realized it was a smallring mauser. I never thought I should have asked

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I will pick up this gun here the spring, since I have another doing up there

The Mauser is an Oberndorf Mauser, marked so. The barrel starts out round, but then turns to octagon to then round again. It has weaver scopebases on( which I`LL tear of)
The serienumber is 8xxx.

I know early mauser had militarystyle release on the bottom metal. Could this gun be a transition model??.

Edited by rigbymauser (29/01/10 09:31 AM)

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John303
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: rigbymauser]
#152132 - 29/01/10 12:05 PM

The action looks the same as my Geco 98a that I just purchased, interesting to see the DSTs on your rifle, some one in their infinite wisdom removed the DSTs on mine. Thanks for posting the pics., hope Don responds. --- John303.

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pjaln
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: John303]
#152141 - 29/01/10 02:30 PM

rigbymauser,,i would say it is not an original oberndorf sporter, as i dont think any were made with side panels and it looks more like a typical cigarette mauser ,, these are well built and a lot of gun for the money i had about the same thing in 8x57, i bought it about 25 years ago when i first discovered how nice these german sporters were for the money ,,if you go to SIMPSONLTD. site you will see few guns that have the look of oberndorfs but are not,my guess is yours is just built of a military oberndorf action ...paul

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apr1775
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: pjaln]
#152172 - 30/01/10 12:50 AM

Very good rifle for ~US$275. Looks like a 98 with a small receiver ring. Similar to the 7x57 I'm am building on a Mexican military Mauser action. All the features of a 98 but with a slimmer lighter action.

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DarylS
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: apr1775]
#152177 - 30/01/10 01:17 AM

Interesting, I just picked up a small ring 98 Mauser - suspect it's Mexican - had a rotten 8mm barrel on it - haven't decided what to make it - yet.
7 mauser is a good idea, or 6.5x57 - or, or, or.
I really like the stock on yours rigbymaster, as it's a classic, designed for irons.

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rigbymauser
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: DarylS]
#152185 - 30/01/10 02:29 AM

Thanks folks.

The guy that owns the mauser isn`t knowledgable about guns at all. He have had this gun inherited from another familymember. He has never fired it either.

I`ll might pull myself together next week to take it..It is becomming more interesting I must say.

Ilooked awhile ago in Jon Speeds book. There was actually transitionguns(commercial) made up with sidepanels and set-triggers.

I`LL keep you all updated on this thing here.

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dons
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: rigbymauser]
#152188 - 30/01/10 03:40 AM

My best guess.....this is a guild rifle built up on a military action. The contour of the barrel, as described, does not sound like something offered from the Mauser factory. The receiver and barrel markings will tell the story.

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pjaln
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: dons]
#152204 - 30/01/10 09:30 AM

rigby mauser those sidepanel oberdorfs are only half panels starting from the rear of the trigger guard and disappearing as it goes toward sthe barrel end ,your guns style is something j.p. sauer is famous for,a full side panel, which was never offerd by oberndorf...paul

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tophet1
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: pjaln]
#152208 - 30/01/10 09:59 AM

No matter what it is, that is worth refurbishing and enjoying. Especially for the price you paid.

Enjoy it, I would.

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pjaln
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: tophet1]
#152214 - 30/01/10 12:28 PM

when you think about it there is probably more work put into one of these type rifles than what goes into a typical rigby 275.....paul

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rigbymauser
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: pjaln]
#152254 - 30/01/10 08:01 PM

..Been starring at it for some time time now, I don`t believe either its a Mauser from Oberndorf.
I have pursuaded the owner to send it to me( Thank you Lord)..

As tophet1 said, it could be a good restoration project

. How wrong can one go for DKr 1500,--??

I´ll bet one could do a slick lightweight sporting gun out of it.

I have appreciated all comments. Thanks to you Don

Hey tophet1...I am planning another trip o Andrew`s place

Edited by rigbymauser (30/01/10 08:04 PM)

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tophet1
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: rigbymauser]
#152258 - 30/01/10 08:49 PM

Awesome news Jens,

My son and I plan to return in 2014 and hope Andrew will be able to help my son get closer to collecting all the small five.

I am having a 7x57 built now for the plains game out there on the grassveldt .....

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rigbymauser
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: tophet1]
#152261 - 30/01/10 09:20 PM

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Awesome news Jens,

My son and I plan to return in 2014 and hope Andrew will be able to help my son get closer to collecting all the small five.

I am having a 7x57 built now for the plains game out there on the grassveldt .....

It could be awsome to take a 7x57 on the "boer veld" for plains game. I too have thought of bringing my son to Andrews place for hunting. The 7x57mauser could be a good compromise for a young boy to hunt with. The 140grain spitzer bullet does offer a fine ballistic out to 220meters, most people can benefit from. Looking foreward to see your gun.

Edited by rigbymauser (30/01/10 09:21 PM)

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kuduae
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Re: Small-ring M98 7x57. Please have a look Don :LOL [Re: rigbymauser]
#152283 - 31/01/10 04:09 AM

Your rifle was certainly put together post-WW1 in the Suhl/Zella-Mehlis area. The stock style is typical for the guntrade of that area. If the small-ring receiver is indeed inscribed "Waffenfabrik Mauser Oberndorf a.N."it may indeed be a commercial transitional receiver. The Triggerguard and set triggers at least look "Commercial Mauser" to me. How to identify Mauser commercial parts, see my post on the "Carl Grundig" thread in the "Mauser Forum".Have a look at the proofmarks too, perhaps there is a date stamp?
The bolt sleeve at least is not "Transitional" as the bolt-sleeve lock housing is visible in one of your photos. imho the rifle was most likely put together in the 1920s using a Karabiner 98a action together with a left-over commercial Mauser magazine box/set trigger assembly. But it may have been reworked or rebarreled even later, post-WW2.

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Edited by kuduae (31/01/10 04:13 AM)

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