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baileybradshaw
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New Farquharson action
      #150734 - 15/01/10 03:47 PM

I just assembled the major components tonight. The prototyping phase is usually a pain, but this one is going pretty easy.

Let me know what you think....Constructive critisism is more than welcome.







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Edited by CptCurl (22/06/10 08:21 AM)

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #150762 - 15/01/10 09:15 PM

I'll take one when you're done. Large caliber please. Looking good.

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: casper50]
      #150766 - 15/01/10 11:47 PM

Quote:

I'll take one when you're done. Large caliber please. Looking good.



..577s or the big "6"..

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: rigbymauser]
      #150767 - 15/01/10 11:49 PM


Love the shape of the lever.

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: 500Nitro]
      #150775 - 16/01/10 12:24 AM

Bailey,

You're getting my attention with this one.

My advice, extended in humble earnest: Pay close attention to style. English, English, very English.

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baileybradshaw
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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: CptCurl]
      #150783 - 16/01/10 02:41 AM

Curl,

English is the goal. I like the looks of the Holland/Woodward, and used it as a model. I like the cleaner underlever over the Gibbs actions ( even though they are pretty damn sexy too).

The top line of the action is modeled after later Gibbs actions where the stock blends nicely into the action without an abrupt step.

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #150784 - 16/01/10 03:21 AM

Wery nice indeed, did you wire cut the cutout for the block or only the siluette?

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: 450_366]
      #150794 - 16/01/10 04:43 AM

Are you using damascus on this one also? I can't tell from the rough machine marks. Either way it looks great so far/

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baileybradshaw
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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: AkMike]
      #150810 - 16/01/10 07:06 AM

Andreas,

I wire cut the profile, breech block, block cavity, trigger plate. I machined the underlever and the tirgger plate profile to have it fit like an inlay into the action.

AkMike,

No damascus on this one as it will be chambered for 6.5-06 or 6.5X55. It is sized for anything using a 30-06 size case. I won't use damascus on anything with high pressure or much recoil.

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #150824 - 16/01/10 10:55 AM

SWEET!!!

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #150827 - 16/01/10 11:55 AM

Thanks for another magnificent thread, Bailey. This is going to be another masterpiece, no doubt about it. And, this will be another blockbuster thread.

All the very best and congratulations on a work of gun art in the making!

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #150840 - 16/01/10 04:54 PM

Now your talking, and x1,000,000 what Curl said..

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: ]
      #150842 - 16/01/10 05:55 PM

Bailey,

Looking forward to seeing the finished product, a 318WR would be very nice in a gun like this imho!!

Good luck,

MOG

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: Cinghiale]
      #150856 - 17/01/10 12:24 AM

I think a .303 would be classic.

Here's what it should look like:




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baileybradshaw
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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: CptCurl]
      #150872 - 17/01/10 02:44 AM

A symphony of subtlty isn't it. I completly agree with you on styling, and like that you used a later action as an example. The way the top line of the stock blends to the action and on to the barrel is pure elegance. The earlier Farquharson actions and many of the modern actions have that abrupt step up at the rear of the action and it kills the flow to me.

I made a contact at the Dallas Safari club show with a British trained gunmaker now living in Texas. We had a nice conversation...long story short, I have a trained eye to help achive "The Look". I am so excited about it, I had a hard time sleeping after the show.

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #150874 - 17/01/10 02:51 AM

Bailey,

I think you are on another winner with this project and well done. Its great to have craftsmen such as yourself here on NE.

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: NitroX]
      #150896 - 17/01/10 04:38 AM

Very exciting. Is this something you're going to offer for sale? I'd love to have one. Any idea of costs at this early point?

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: Squarebridge]
      #150934 - 17/01/10 11:33 AM

I agree a .303 would be nice!

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: Antlers]
      #150982 - 18/01/10 04:04 AM

Bailey Bradsaw,
What a treat to see your H&H Woodward action,have you concidered chambering it for .373 X 2 1/2" Nitro,this case has the same head Dia as the .303" so will fit a small action nicely,but is just a little bit different(with lower chamber pressures)One down side of the close fitting underlever/triggergaurd,is that under field use,any small leaf litter/twig ,that is caught between the two will prevent the action closeing fully,it does give the rifle a look of classic good fitting though.Even by the use of CNC and EDF cutting I doubt that you will be able to get the price down to that which people will pay,I have always cut them out by hand(Farquharsons not Woodwards)and there is no way I could sell them and make even a tiny profit,I look forward to seeing the progress photos on your superb project.
Cpt Curl,Many thanks for the photo of your G,Gibbs,I have one almost identical ,exept that mine has Selous grips,is yours in .303"? Mine I am sure has been re barreled at some time as the sight engraving states "37 Grn Cannonite & 200 Grn Bullet" what that was I have been unable to determine,I would like to post a photo on this forum but,although I have no trouble in E Mailing photos I have been unable to get them onto here!

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: Englishman]
      #151026 - 18/01/10 11:45 AM

These can certainly be chambered for .303. This one (the prototype only) will be either a .204 or more than likly a .223 as I made a mistake on the trough ( feed path for cartridge on the top tang) and it is too short with too much angle for larger cases. I already made the necessary change to my CAD drawing for 30-06 sized cases. Brainless mistake, but it happens.

Englishman,

I can't claim this is a Hollard/Woodward action, just used that action as a model. I like the cleaner look of the lever and not having the hinge pin beneath the action body. I am not familiar with the internal workings of the 1894 action.

Pricing is still up in the air, but the way this one is coming together, they will be far less than comparable actions on the market. I intend to finish just a few of these myself. The actions will be primarily made for the trade. I will offer different levels of completion from just assembled parts to polished, barreled and pre-inletted stocks. Thats the plan at the moment anyway.

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: Englishman]
      #151062 - 19/01/10 12:35 AM

Englishman,

The Gibbs is a .303, but sadly it's not mine. I had the very brief opportunity to buy that rifle a year or so ago. It was in Canada and I in the U.S. Telephone calls and email photos proved too slow as someone snatched it from under me. I never saw the rifle in person. I suppose I should have thrown caution to the wind and lunged for the rifle. That's risky in the extreme.

Another photo:



I would like to have a similar opportunity again.

Curl

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baileybradshaw
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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: CptCurl]
      #151131 - 19/01/10 01:21 PM

This little action is really coming together.

I have the cocking bar in place and man does it work well. Most designs are starved for enough movement and room for everything. Not the case here. The block has plenty of drop, cocking bar moves more than enough, and has a ton of force. All with only 27 degrees of rotation on the lever.

The cocking bar mechanics are very similar to Farquharson's 1874 design, where the cocking bar is moved rearward by the underlever, pushing on the hammer above it's rotation point, moving it intot he cocked position. I will be using a coil main spring with rebounding hammer, and in-line firing pin, so the hammer/trigger/sear arrangement will be different than Farquharson's.

You can see the rectangular cocking bar at the rear of the action block



Here is the action fully open, note how far the cocking bar has moved to the rear compared to the first picture



And fully open from the top view. A channel will be filled into the breech block as it typical so the full circumference of the chamber will be exposed. The dummy barrel has a .471" hole to simulate an -06 case.



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Edited by CptCurl (22/06/10 08:22 AM)

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #151147 - 19/01/10 04:04 PM

Beautiful!
With this `puter programed mill what's it going to take to scale this action up or down for other sized cartridges?

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: AkMike]
      #151169 - 20/01/10 12:30 AM

Scaling the drawings are not difficult. It takes a couple of minutes on the CAD program, but ALL of the toolpaths have to be redone, and that takes a little while. New fixtures, larger material different tooling ect. It's not like re-prototyping, and once the initial work to go into production is complete, it is repeatable, and there is the value of CNC.

I will be making a larger action ( roughly the same size as a Ruger 1) for up tp .375 H&H. The current action is the small size. It will be chambered for the little guys up to -06. On small claibers, .22 hornet for example, the barrel can be turned to a smaller diameter and the barrel band can be reduced to that scale. The action will appear much smaller, but not give up ergonomics in the grip/trigger.

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Re: New Farquharson action [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #151193 - 20/01/10 05:59 AM

Actually, I was wondering about something a tad larger that a 375. 450 or 500 and up will be popular choices I believe.
I'm starting to be very partial to the 450 NE.

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