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bwananelson
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i want a howda
#150157 - 11/01/10 05:32 AM

but i refuse to use cabelas any help

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tinker
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Re: i want a howda [Re: bwananelson]
#150160 - 11/01/10 06:00 AM

I got mine from Dixie

Get the 20x20
Mine prints side by side right over the bead at 30yds with a 70grain charge!!

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Bramble
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Re: i want a howda [Re: tinker]
#150194 - 11/01/10 10:02 AM

I certainly knew where there was an original .577 BPE double Hammer Howda available 6 months ago, would you like me to make the call and see if it is still available.?

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TH44
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Re: i want a howda [Re: Bramble]
#150206 - 11/01/10 11:19 AM

If Bwananelson does not want it or it is too much hassle to export, I am interested and in UK

Thanks for any help

TH44

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bwananelson
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Re: i want a howda [Re: TH44]
#150215 - 11/01/10 12:06 PM

US IS MINE UK IS YOURS

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NitroX
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Re: i want a howda [Re: tinker]
#150264 - 12/01/10 01:27 AM

Quote:

I got mine from Dixie

Get the 20x20
Mine prints side by side right over the bead at 30yds with a 70grain charge!!

Looks good!

PH0581 HOWDAH HUNTER PISTOL 20X20 $650.00

Classic large caliber double barrel pistol in the English gunsmith school style,used at close range to stop tigers which commonly leaped upon elephants carrying hunters in Howdah in the far away colonial territories. The stock is a three-quarter stock w/checkered pistol grip. European walnut w/satin finish. 20 ga. smoothbore double barrel, blued, tapered round - .985 at breeh to .825 at muzzle. Front sight is a brass bead. Barrel is 11 1/4" in length. Uses #11 percussion caps. Features color casehardened steel furniture which includes locks, buttcap, wedge plates, triggerplate, triggerguard & tang. Engraved lockplates (Rhino & scrolls on one - Leopard on other). Scroll engraving on hook breech tang & triggerplate. Overall length of pistol is 18 1/2". Uses a 1/4X28 nipple (NP1365). Recommended load is 25 grains of 2F black powder with 1 oz. shot. Manufactured in Italy by Pedersoli.

Edited by NitroX (25/02/10 01:48 AM)

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DarylS
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Re: i want a howda [Re: NitroX]
#150299 - 12/01/10 03:57 AM

Note the length of the nipple noses, which keep the hammers from curling over the fences. They are easily trimmed back such as these. Also a bit of file work behind the nipple seats can make the nipples 'stand proud' as they should be.
The reason for this modification is to make them look more pleasing to the eye, as the English pattern of nipple to hammer fit should be presented.

Edited by NitroX (25/02/10 01:48 AM)

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CptCurl
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Re: i want a howda [Re: Bramble]
#150372 - 12/01/10 02:37 PM

Bramble,

I might have an interest. Can you provide details?

Thanks,
Curl

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Bramble
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Re: i want a howda [Re: CptCurl]
#150375 - 12/01/10 03:25 PM

I made the call today to the owner. It is out on consignment and he will ring me tomorrow and let me know if it is still there.

It is a Lancaster O/U and is in .577, I do not know if that is .577 BPE or a shorter pistol version. It is hard to imagine a .577 BPE pistol but they were tougher then.

I will post more information as I get it

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tinker
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Re: i want a howda [Re: Bramble]
#150377 - 12/01/10 03:35 PM

.600 roundball and 70gr FFg is manageable out of the Pedersoli.

Sounds Glorious!

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Re: i want a howda [Re: tinker]
#150390 - 12/01/10 05:15 PM

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=29212

English Double Barrel Percussion pistol by Thomas Lloyd of London. Sliding safeties and captive ramrod. Approximately .60 caliber. Barrel length is 6 ½” and overall length is 13”. Hammer spurs have been replaced. Has old sales tag. Overall in very good condition. $1,095.00 Item# AH2570 Request Info

Edited by NitroX (25/02/10 01:49 AM)

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Checkman
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Re: i want a howda [Re: NitroX]
#151777 - 25/01/10 04:36 PM

Terrific old hand cannons. Perhaps I'll break down and buy one of the new ones from Dixie.

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tinker
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Re: i want a howda [Re: Checkman]
#151781 - 25/01/10 04:42 PM

Checkman-

Go for the 20/20
You won't be disappointed!
Mine is a ripper and tons of fun to shoot.
I have pounds and pounds of roundball that I got ultra cheap from a shop that couldn't move it (new old commercial stock) so they sold it to me for about 1/4 the spot price of pure lead.

If you get one, get a roundball mould to go with it.

Cheers
Tinker

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beleg2
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Re: i want a howda [Re: tinker]
#152405 - 01/02/10 05:24 AM

BTW:
You can see a howdah pistol in last Sherlock Holmes film in hands of the Chief police.
Martin

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Bramble
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Re: i want a howda [Re: beleg2]
#152426 - 01/02/10 12:04 PM

Glad this is back TTT

I apologise to all interested parties, I spoke to the owner of that gun today and totally forgot to ask if he had any news.

I will attend to it tomorrow, too much on my mind. Sorry to all.

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Huvius
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Re: i want a howda [Re: Bramble]
#152429 - 01/02/10 12:27 PM

There are plenty of tired back action hammer shotguns around.
Why not build a roundball smoothbore howdah from one?

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Re: i want a howda [Re: Huvius]
#152434 - 01/02/10 01:18 PM

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There are plenty of tired back action hammer shotguns around.
Why not build a roundball smoothbore howdah from one?

Hey, Huvius...great idea!

And...for a good kitchen-table and legal "user", pay Uncle Sam the $200 sucker stamp and make up a cheapy.

A Stoeger or some such double chopped to 8 inches with a pistol grip.

I've wanted such a user for a long time. What fun!

And tho Tink's is really the way top go, I think a 12 bore would be, well, interesting.

I had a 19-inch bbl'd, 4 lb H&R singleshot 12 bore that was the "Fat Girl", ie Tonzafun itself.

I think a 2.5 lb Modern Howdah legal enough to show off In Town would be a Hoot.

And in a holster on the hip while skiing would stop at least one wolf from humpin' my leg should such an eventuality present itself...

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Re: i want a howda [Re: NitroX]
#152439 - 01/02/10 01:59 PM

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http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=29212

English Double Barrel Percussion pistol by Thomas Lloyd of London. Sliding safeties and captive ramrod. Approximately .60 caliber. Barrel length is 6 ½” and overall length is 13”. Hammer spurs have been replaced. Has old sales tag. Overall in very good condition. $1,095.00 Item# AH2570 Request Info

This gun is easily worth twice that in this country.

Edited by NitroX (25/02/10 01:49 AM)

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NitroX
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Re: i want a howda [Re: Huvius]
#152446 - 01/02/10 02:23 PM

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There are plenty of tired back action hammer shotguns around.
Why not build a roundball smoothbore howdah from one?

As last seen in "Mad Max" (or "The Road Warrior"). Need a good set of leathers and a Pursuit car too.

Edited by NitroX (25/02/10 01:50 AM)

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Re: i want a howda [Re: Huvius]
#152504 - 02/02/10 03:15 AM

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There are plenty of tired back action hammer shotguns around.
Why not build a roundball smoothbore howdah from one?

EXACTLY - not a difficult job, either. If wanting something more modern, for less than the cost of the 'new one', a person can pick up a used 12 bore side by side caplock, and build his own. Perhaps a week of evenings is all it takes to make the stock, another week for finishing and done. 12 bore Howdah!

The hardwood dealers usually have good walnut 'shrots', 2 1/2" side, X about 15X15" for around $20.00 to @30.00 with good figure. Cheap Pedersoli, Navy Arms or Armi
San Polo 12 bore - perhaps $100.00 to $300.00 for the used gun + the wood. All 'parts' are already there, whereas to buy a set of barrels, soldering ribs, good locks, triggers, trigger bar, trigger gaurd - about $1000.00 for parts or more.

A double 12 (or 10) bore Howdah would be a worthwile addition to one's belt - for maurading wolves, both 2 and 4 legged.

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Checkman
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Re: i want a howda [Re: NitroX]
#153330 - 11/02/10 07:45 AM

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There are plenty of tired back action hammer shotguns around.
Why not build a roundball smoothbore howdah from one?

As last seen in "Mad Max" (or "The Road Warrior"). Need a good set of leathers and a Pursuit car too.

Never has a cut down double shotgun looked so good. I saw Mad Max 2 way back in 1982 and I knew even back then (at the ripe old age of 14) I wanted a double shotgun. Just like Max. And the V8 Interceptor and leathers would be a nice bonus.

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Bramble
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Re: i want a howda [Re: Checkman]
#153342 - 11/02/10 12:04 PM

Quote:

Quote:

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There are plenty of tired back action hammer shotguns around.
Why not build a roundball smoothbore howdah from one?

As last seen in "Mad Max" (or "The Road Warrior"). Need a good set of leathers and a Pursuit car too.

Never has a cut down double shotgun looked so good. I saw Mad Max 2 way back in 1982 and I knew even back then (at the ripe old age of 14) I wanted a double shotgun. Just like Max. And the V8 Interceptor and leathers would be a nice bonus.

1982 was 28 years ago. Now I can see the double shotgun and the V8, but do you really still want the leather pants ??

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Re: i want a howda [Re: Bramble]
#153349 - 11/02/10 01:03 PM

Here. Same gun as cabelas sells, without going through cabelas. I want one myself but can't justify the money for it. They also offer it in kit form for a bit cheaper if you want to assemble it and finish the stock.
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=14020
Edit-I see I was beaten by quite a bit.

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Edited by Shackleton (11/02/10 01:05 PM)

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bwananelson
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Re: i want a howda [Re: Shackleton]
#153356 - 11/02/10 02:30 PM

wont even consider a cabelas product they just dont do things in a way i would trust to corperate back stabbing well i'll stop there the dixie model seems nice but a home built one with 58 conicals sound interesting

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tinker
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Re: i want a howda [Re: bwananelson]
#153363 - 11/02/10 03:16 PM

Got mine through dixie as a kit.
Total ripper, glorious sound, FTW!

Cheers
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