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tkv000
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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Birdhunter50]
#145306 - 07/11/09 06:31 AM

Forgive my terminology, or lack there of...

Will it have a full rib between the barrels? or will there be a gap? If so, would it be possible to have a full rib? Or would that wreak the balance?

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: tkv000]
#145381 - 08/11/09 12:02 PM

No, there won't be a full rib. It is partly due to balance, but that could be compensated for. It is primarily so the barrels can be regulated by my customers. Rimfire ammo varies so much and everyone seems to have their favorite. The barrel spread can be adjusted by a screw in the front sight base.

I've seen several Dickson double rifles without a full rib as well.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
#145932 - 15/11/09 10:18 AM

Sneaking in more work here and there. My Sporting Classics knives are keeping me plenty busy.

I have the ejectors working smoothly, and have been working on the trigger group. First pic is of the raw bar I will make the main spring stops from, along with the trigger group.

Here, with the stops drilled and installed with the hammers at rest, and next with the hammers cocked. I actually need to remake one ofthe hammers as the left hammer sits a few degrees forward of the right hammer. The right hammer is is perfect, and the only way to make them match is to remove more material from the sear notch to let it move forward to the left hammers position. That would be a bone headed thing to do, so I will make a new hammer...

Here we have the stops rough ground so the trigger group will fit into the action.

Next step is to install the cocking feet and cocking rods so the action will....cock of course. After that, it will be time to chamber it and get her regulated.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
#147064 - 02/12/09 12:32 PM

OK, I've been working like a fool on knives for Sporting Classics magazine. When time permits, I sneak in an hour or two on this one. I have the action cocking and ejectors working.

I had to make a new set of hammers, and during programing, I mirrored the drawing not realizing I would need to make new spring struts to fit the new hammers. They needed a little tweaking anyway, so a new set was machined with improvements.

Since the action is damascus, so the stock furniture will be as well. Here is the grip cap...

and a quick etch on the action reveals a little of the damascus pattern....

I have the skeleton butt plate ready to install and will get a couple of shots when I am able to do that. The action needs a little tuning, firing pins and then it is time to chamber it.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
#149219 - 01/01/10 05:30 AM

Updates!!

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: hunt_ak]
#149236 - 01/01/10 02:55 PM

I am working on a BIG update. Left my camera at the shop, but will start the new year off right :-)

Thanks for the interest!!

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
#149289 - 02/01/10 11:16 AM

Your work is simply incredible....thank you for taking the time and effort to share your knowledge!

Jeff

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Birdhunter50]
#149327 - 03/01/10 12:33 AM

This has to be one of the best threads ever, Bailey. For some reason it had never occurred to me sideclips would be milled that way.

Cheers
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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Paul]
#149364 - 03/01/10 12:32 PM

Big day today. Got her shooting without a hitch, and it was so close to being regulated, I went ahead and made two small adjestments, and she is shooting "barrel spread" at 25 yds. I didn't have the sights installed, so I left it there as a good place to start sighting in a final regulation.

So, now for pictures. First is the damascus skeleton butt plate.....and my feet :-)

Next is the action just before heat treating. The action is forged from 1075 and L-6 tool steel. These will get VERY hard, and that isn't what I am after, so I austenitize at 1400. This is just hot enough to harden, but not full hardness. In order to eliminate scale, the action is coated in anti-scaling compound from Brownells. It works nice, but sure is ugly...

and after the quench

The compound is removed by boiling in water. The action is then polished, areas not to be acid etched are coated with laquer, and the action is imersed in ferric chloride to etch the damascus.

the results are hard to photograph, but easily visable in person. Sorry for the fuzzy picture..

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
#149366 - 03/01/10 12:45 PM

Moving into the finishing step, so first up is the top lever. It will have a folding peep sight, so the center is left blank. not too much engraving, just a little touch of scrolls.
Pencil layout

and after cutting

The rifle will have QD scope mounts, so here are the bases installed in the rib, with the lower half of the rings slid in place.

These rings are my own design BTW.

While cutting the dovetails for the bases and sights, I went ahead and machined in my name/location and caliber on the barrel rib.

Last pic for this update is display of balance :-)

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
#149367 - 03/01/10 01:02 PM

Bailey, For me, this has been like sitting in a corner and watching Da Vinci painting the Mona Lisa!!!

Edited by ronvella (03/01/10 06:16 PM)

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Ron_Vella]
#149412 - 04/01/10 04:33 AM

This is/has been the most captivating thread to follow. No where else could most of us watch a funtioning piece of art evolve from the raw lumps of steel and wood to where it currently sits. I can only imagine the anticipation with which the comissioner of this georgous little rifle waits for completion. I have had a couplle of customs built but like the majority can not look over the shoulder of the artisans who do the work for us. This is a rare priviledge.

Von Gruff.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: VonGruff]
#149415 - 04/01/10 05:25 AM

bailey

still looking good, i cant wait to see the action etched and finally finished.

best

peter

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: peter]
#149422 - 04/01/10 07:32 AM

baileybradshaw - you are a wonderful craftsman.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: DarylS]
#149427 - 04/01/10 08:06 AM

I agree.

Quote:

baileybradshaw - you are a wonderful craftsman.

And it takes stones to go from concept to product as Bailey here has done - especially given the complexity and completeness of the project.
After all, this (recent line of rifles) IS Mr Bradshaw's first step into the gunbuilding world, isn't it..?

Cheers
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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: tinker]
#149439 - 04/01/10 12:30 PM

Tinker,

You are correct, my little doubles are my entry into the gun biz. They have certainly created a steep learning curve, but that's the way I have always done things. Not that I think it wise or would recommend it to anyone else, just my nature I guess.

I appreciate all the complients and the opportunity to show the process on this forum.

I am working on a falling block design that resembles the H&H farquarson's, then on to larger caliber doubles. The falling blocks will be out this year, larger doubles will be in a couple of years.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
#149448 - 04/01/10 02:41 PM

Gosh, with a first creation that is as exquisite as this one, there is no doubt that the future will be good. No, make it great!

Sir, you are a master craftsman and my hat's off to you!

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: mehulkamdar]
#149455 - 04/01/10 03:38 PM

Bailey,

You have definitely made a most impressive introduction of your abilities.

I look forward to watching your line of offerings grow.

Best regards,

Buchseman

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Buchsemann]
#149509 - 05/01/10 02:03 PM

I was able to complete regulating today. Fairly painless, and I like the results. I used Remington factory ammo, 45gr hollow point. I used open sights, 50yds. Here is a picture of the final group. ( I pulled the far right shot a little, but not too bad considering it was freakin cold today)

After that, I went into the shop and polished the barrels up and touched up a couple of other areas on the action and forend so I can show it this weekend at the DSC show. The action will get another acid etch just to make it a litte deeper.

Hope you enjoy!!

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
#152910 - 05/02/10 03:35 PM

Wow, you definitely need to get better pictures of that beauty!!

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: hunt_ak]
#152913 - 05/02/10 04:17 PM

That is a true beauty. You are a very talented craftsman.
Thanks for you postings.

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: FATBOY404]
#152979 - 06/02/10 11:26 AM

Hi BaileyBradshaw,

It has all been said previously by others on this forum, However,.... You are very artistic by nature and have the capabilities to put your thoughts and designs into practice. You have bought back the "Old World" use of damascus steel into the "Modern" era.

I sincerely hope that your firearms will become available in Australia as they are truly a wonder to behold.

Keep up the good work,

Cheers from Australia,

Jeff Gray

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
#153161 - 08/02/10 11:38 PM

Bloody nice! I love it!

Kalunga

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: Kalunga]
#153341 - 11/02/10 11:48 AM

Alright,

I have the action blued, stock checkered and am going over all the parts one at a time to make sure they are right for final assembly. The damascus is etched deep enough that the high layers are polished, and the deeper etched layers are matt, so the pattern still contrasts even with the blueing.

Were almost there!!

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Edited by CptCurl (11/02/10 09:00 PM)

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Re: Damascus hornet double...in progress [Re: baileybradshaw]
#153344 - 11/02/10 12:33 PM

Bailey,
You have done beautifull work on this little double, and the description and photos you have supplied throughout the build have been truely awesome!
Can't wait to see it totally finished. I'm also very much looking forward to seeing NitroX's double as it is built.
Thanks for this terrific thread!

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