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EAA screws the dealers and Cabelas don't want what would be popular calibres.

Bloody stupid if you ask me.

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No, now they will buy two guns.

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Flooding the market with cheap medium caliber DR, and the value of the vintage vill drop to the cost of a common bolt rifle.

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I'm not worried about the effect Sabbati will have on the prices of vintage double rifles.

Just not the same breed of cat.

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I WILL buy a vintage at a bolts price wanna sell yours

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BTW, it looks like Cabela's has the lower priced model in 45/70 too.
http://www.gunsinternational.com/A-Cabel...un_id=100108784

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as far as plane and engraved they offered both i still have the whole sale sheet and the wortless purchase order.i wonder if i have any legal grounds since they did enter an agreement any lawywers out there.what if you are holding signed orders

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JOHN RIGBY: Case Summary & 20 Largest Unsecured Creditors
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Debtor: John Rigby & Co. (Gunmakers) Inc.
500 Linne Road, Suite D
Paso Robles, California 93446

Bankruptcy Case No.: 05-13079

Type of Business: The Debtor manufactures guns.

Chapter 11 Petition Date: October 3, 2005

Court: Central District of California (Santa Barbara)

Judge: Robin Riblet

Debtor's Counsel: Jay L. Michaelson, Esq.
7 West Figueroa Street, Second Floor
Santa Barbara, California 93101-3191
Tel: (805) 965-1011

Financial Condition as of October 3, 2005:

Total Assets: $3,250,000

Total Debts: $1,950,080

Debtor's 20 Largest Unsecured Creditors:

Entity Nature of Claim Claim Amount
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J Mark Grosvenor Unsecured loan $130,750
P.O. Box 1444
Wilson, WY 83014-1444

Ken Griffin Consumer deposit $115,000
131 South Dearborn Street
Chicago, IL 60603

Gary Honbarrier Unsecured loan $100,000
495 Griffith Road
Advance, NC 27006

Suzanne Webb Vendor $89,541

Dr. Victor Pickett Consumer deposit $60,000

Marc Halcon Purchase money $52,882

Dwight Van Brunt Consumer deposit $42,320

Fernando Soler Valle Consumer deposit $40,000

Gassner and Company Vendor $37,282

Mike Scruggs Consumer deposit $34,965

J Paul Beitler Consumer deposit $24,000

Bradley T. Moore Vendor $21,847

E. Boddington Unsecured loan $21,423

Lee Thompson Consumer deposit $16,875

William McAlphin Consumer deposit $15,120

Int'l Sprotman's Marketing Vendor $15,077

Craig Boddington Unsecured loan $12,998

Cameron Hopkins Consumer deposit $11,116

Joseph Thompson Consumer deposit $10,000

Dale M. Evans Consumer deposit $9,990

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You can take from that whatever floats your boat.
For all it's worth, the noted rifle company is still in business.
Got lawyers?
I bet EAA has lawyers too.
They might make an exception for you, always helps to say please...



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Strange that the only two targets I have seen (both Cabela's) show one barrel over the other.

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Excuse my ignorance but who are EAA (I'm an Aussie). I can see an ever cheaper market for .577 and .600 NE's not long after they do come out, after everyone gets the crap knocked out of them. They will be selling them real quick. It will be great to watch on you tube, I will stick to what I know I can handle. But it would be fun to own a .600NE

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EAA is an importer. They've been around a while, but they gained their "fame" {infamy at times} with the original importation of the Russian Baikal guns. Service from them was staggeringly atrocious, service staff attitude worse, and the guns they brought in varied from cheap but serviceable and very nice "for the money" to absolute cobs. They sold the Baikal guns for some years then entered into some sort of agreement with Remington, who as has been stated, commanded control of the sales and merely slapped $100 more on the price tag for no improvement of the breed. Those who thought Remington might tweak the engineering on them and guarantee better QC were immediately proven to be dreamers of the pipiest sort.

Everyone has their opinions on this stuff, but I agree 100% with the post here about the .577 and .600 guns. Yes, yes, there are those fellows who shoot these big ones and in some way enjoy them, but most, meaning in my opinion, damn near all the fellows that buy these things will regret it, whether they admit it on a forum or not, and just as is said, this will be proven as the guns quietly slip back on the market. "Only Put 4 Rounds Thru It" will no doubt be a great selling point.

Fun, sure. Everybody wants a .600 or a .577!

And SOME guys {some guys here} actually enjoy shooting this sort of stuff. Good for them.

I admit it. My mind about these things has changed over the years. Mostly changed by my association with mean horses. All men that stand around the corral and look at the wild thing kicking dust up in the middle talk big about squeezing leather and catching a glimpse of the young gals winking but most of us that have a few gray hairs and have done it a few times would rather get a hug from the wife than hug our balls for a fortnight while we relish the memories of our equine conquest.

You can have the .577 and .600.

Or come to think of it. Maybe a guy could make a nice sideline business. Buy one and travel with the carnival. Charge $50 to shoot it so every wannabe bwana can say he did without actually having to plunk down hard cash for a wallhanger.

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IIRC you are a specialist ER nurse, bwananelson.

It is obvious your entire promotion of these guns is one crass act of job security for your profession!

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Excuse my ignorance but who are EAA (I'm an Aussie). I can see an ever cheaper market for .577 and .600 NE's not long after they do come out, after everyone gets the crap knocked out of them. They will be selling them real quick. It will be great to watch on you tube, I will stick to what I know I can handle. But it would be fun to own a .600NE

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Everyone has their opinions on this stuff, but I agree 100% with the post here about the .577 and .600 guns. Yes, yes, there are those fellows who shoot these big ones and in some way enjoy them, but most, meaning in my opinion, damn near all the fellows that buy these things will regret it, whether they admit it on a forum or not, and just as is said, this will be proven as the guns quietly slip back on the market. "Only Put 4 Rounds Thru It" will no doubt be a great selling point.

Fun, sure. Everybody wants a .600 or a .577!

And SOME guys {some guys here} actually enjoy shooting this sort of stuff. Good for them.

I admit it. My mind about these things has changed over the years. Mostly changed by my association with mean horses. All men that stand around the corral and look at the wild thing kicking dust up in the middle talk big about squeezing leather and catching a glimpse of the young gals winking but most of us that have a few gray hairs and have done it a few times would rather get a hug from the wife than hug our balls for a fortnight while we relish the memories of our equine conquest.

You can have the .577 and .600.

Or come to think of it. Maybe a guy could make a nice sideline business. Buy one and travel with the carnival. Charge $50 to shoot it so every wannabe bwana can say he did without actually having to plunk down hard cash for a wallhanger.

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The above post has been my opinion for some years. In 51 years of owning, and shooting just about every chambering that was ever offered in a double rifle, I find, that the people who buy a very large bore double rifle for thier first double have plain and simply bought over their head.

You can always tell the guy that has never shot a "BIG" rifle when he posts the he wants to buy a double rifle, and expresses the desire to get chambered for 577NE, 600NE, or 700NE. You could always bet your bank account that he has never shot anything much bigger than a 7mm Mag.

It has always been my advice for a guy buying his first double rifle to start with something like a 9.3X74R, or one of the .450s, and to stay away from even the 470NE till they decide they are really willing to put up with the profound differences that come with a double rifle, as apposed to a single barreled rifle.

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...cabalas is not as stable as ie appears,look at the gun library dropping prices on mid to upper end items...

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Cabela's got robbed by one of their own - big nasty felony fraud inside job, prison time for some lame hack...

They've been 'adjusting' some pricing on some of the items that had gotten via the fraud racket, some things had been waaaay over-valued in framed-up purchases etc.
'Tis a mess for Cabelas, but they're working to get things ironed out.

Wonder why there had been so many TOTALLY SCREWY examples on their gun room sites of guns and rifles with prices that weren't even in the same ball park?
That (evidently) was this job at work.

We'll see about Sabatti and Cabelas.
I definitely hear you loud and clear on the tendency to monopolies and the loss of 'mom and pop' operations -- and the texture and richness they give to any marketplace.
I hope we don't see the 'pharmacy extinction' (walgreens etc) loss of local gun dealers and shops.






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