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Shikari
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Rodda 404
      #147282 - 06/12/09 01:39 AM

On an internet search i came across a listing for a 404 jeffrey by Rodda, manufactured by Schuler of Germany c.1928. Unfortunately the post is now deleted. Anybody came across an similar rifle??. Would be grateful if pictures could be shared
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Re: Rodda 404 [Re: Shikari]
      #147290 - 06/12/09 03:45 AM

I think that was on Champlin's website.
I haven't seen another such example. Really, I suspect the gun was built up by Schuler and simply retailed by Rodda. I would think that it was more common for a retailer to simply order a 404 (type A or B)from Mauser and put whatever name you wish on the barrel - Rodda, Manton, Heyer etc.

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Re: Rodda 404 [Re: Huvius]
      #147309 - 06/12/09 07:02 AM

I think thats the way it was, Considering the Anglo-German rivalry of those years, the rifles were all made in Germany and then stamped by the British retailers.German markings were deliberatly not visible. I am told the rifles were very well made. Any chance of pictures of these rifles? The Champlin arms link is dead now. Whats a 404 type A or B??

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Re: Rodda 404 [Re: Shikari]
      #147311 - 06/12/09 09:29 AM

Shikari

Mauser Bolt Rifles by Ludwig Olson is a good book source of information on all the Mauser rifles both military and commercial. Type A & B Mausers were high quality M98 sporter rifles. The Type B, the ‘normal’ Mauser, was made in a wide variety of chamberings for the European market and the most common one found around the World. The Type A was made specially for the English market with features that were popular back then mostly for use in Africa and India.

According to Olson, the .404J was only produced in Type A on the Magnum length action as this was an English designed cartridge (same for the cal .280 and .318 WR cartridges). Some gunmakers (Jeffery perhaps the most famous) took the standard length Mauser sporter action and opened these up to .404J marketing them under their own brand with their style of woodwork, sights, magazines, etc.

The largest cartridge the Mauser factory chambered in their standard length Type A & B Mauser 98 sporter rifles was the 10.75x68 which is a Mauser designed cartridge.
Some of these genuine Oberndorf Type A standard length Mausers have since been opened up for the .404J (10.75x73) cartridge. I have one of these.

So the only Oberndorf Mauser sporter Type A in .404J you will see that came direct from the factory will be on a magnum length action. Others such as my own .404J, albeit a genuine Mauser Type A rifle, are converted standard length actions.

I have used a nice Type B in 7x57 and reloaded for another two in 6.5x54 and 8x51. For some years also owned a Type K (short action) in 250-3000 Savage. As is my Type A, these other model Mausers are all fantastic firearms, as good as you get.

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Shikari
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Re: Rodda 404 [Re: eagle27]
      #147535 - 10/12/09 07:12 AM

Finally managed to get the details of the rifle courtsey Champlin Arms, Their catalogue says 25.5 inch barrel while a rifle i saw had a 24 inch barrel
How is barrel length measured? Is it from the muzzle to the point where the barrel meets the receiver or it from the muzzle to the end of the reciver shroud??

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Re: Rodda 404 [Re: Shikari]
      #147538 - 10/12/09 07:39 AM

Barrel length is measured from the muzzle to the bolt face. With the bolt closed on an empty chamber, run a rod down the barrel from the muzzle until it meets the bolt face. Mark the muzzle location on the rod and remove it from the barrel. The distance from the mark to the end of the rod is the barrel length.

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Shikari
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Re: Rodda 404 [Re: xausa]
      #147859 - 13/12/09 10:23 PM

Finally managed to get the pics courtesy Champlin Arms
http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy47/...pg&newest=1

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Re: Rodda 404 [Re: Shikari]
      #148075 - 16/12/09 07:16 AM

The Rodda I examined shows interesting markings
Proofed for cordite 60- 400 max
Caliber 404 ex
Underside of the barrel stamped 10.3mm and 74
Barrel stamped KRUPP STAHL
The markings have left me confused, the metric equivalent of the 404 NE would be 10.75 x 73. On another thread about Dons 404 mauser i also saw 10.3mm stamped, i guess this is the diameter across the lands but then how can this correspond to a groove diameter of 10.75 mm(.423 inches). Using modern .423 inch bullets on an undersize bore could be dangerous but Dons says that his mauser takes modern 404 ammo. So does this mean that a german stamp of 10.3 means a groove diameter of .423 inches??
Incidentally the German 10.75 x 68 mauser has a groove diameter of .423 inches but then the barrels are usually stamped 10.5 mm not 10.3mm
Also what does 74 instead of 73 imply??

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