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gryphon
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would you??
      #141466 - 02/09/09 12:50 PM


They say 15,000 acres but how big is the lion yard if one can take 4 in five days....too much money for me!


accessible until 2009/10/31 For Sale : High Fence Lion hunts 10113
Price : 39900 US$ ( Minimum )
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A high fenced lion hunt under the existing South African hunting guidelines. Hunt takes place on 15,000 acres, hunt is walk and stalk with vehicle used to arrive/depart a hunt area only. Hunt is minimum of 5 days (additional days @ $350.00 pp/pd)

Rate: 5 day (min.) @ $350.00 pp/pd. + trophy fee.

Lion 1 $39,900.00
Lion 2 $21,375.00
Lion 3 $20,662.00
Lion 4 $14,250.00

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500Nitro
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Re: would you?? [Re: gryphon]
      #141467 - 02/09/09 01:16 PM

No, I wouldn't, but that's me and my HO.

If others want to pay that and do it behind a high wire,
so be it.

Edited by 500Nitro (02/09/09 01:35 PM)

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Bramble
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Re: would you?? [Re: gryphon]
      #141468 - 02/09/09 01:20 PM

FOR SALE


Pet cat hunt


Location England, under any rules one cares to make up.


Genus: Housescattus Species: Fiercefuccus

Hunt takes place in 12x6 room, it is a walk and jump in the door type of hunt. Cricket bat provided.

£ 50.00 ONO


If its only the money in question here, then what the fuck, lets go for it.



Regards

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450_366
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Re: would you?? [Re: Bramble]
      #141476 - 02/09/09 04:58 PM



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cooch
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Re: would you?? [Re: 450_366]
      #141478 - 02/09/09 07:01 PM

Gryph.

I see nothing in what you've posted that says you're guaranteed 4 lions in 5 days.

Just says that if you want that many, that is how much you'll pay..... and you can take longer if you have the cash.

I'm scratching to find enough time and fuel-money to hunt Sambar over hounds as often as I'd like. If I win Tatts or strike gold at the bottom of a post-hole.... then I'll have both the time and the money to take my lion in a more traditional and personally satisfying way.

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shakari
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Re: would you?? [Re: Bramble]
      #141484 - 02/09/09 09:02 PM

Quote:

FOR SALE


Pet cat hunt


Location England, under any rules one cares to make up.


Genus: Housescattus Species: Fiercefuccus

Hunt takes place in 12x6 room, it is a walk and jump in the door type of hunt. Cricket bat provided.

£ 50.00 ONO


If its only the money in question here, then what the fuck, lets go for it.



Regards



Sounds like a purrrrrfect deal!

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500Nitro
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Re: would you?? [Re: shakari]
      #141485 - 02/09/09 09:54 PM


Not sure about the perfect deal.

It's costs me nothing at the moment to knock off
a neighbourhood cat !!!

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9.3x57
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Re: would you?? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #141486 - 02/09/09 10:11 PM

I shot one with my wife's Smith and Wesson Model 640 .38 a month or two ago.

This particular feline was missing the cat box and otherwise making a nuisance of itself. But unlike Bramble, I consider shooting them inside the house quite unsporting, not to mention the mess it leaves on the carpet, so I waited till it left the premises for a stroll.

In open range with no fences of any kind restraining its movement, it was a truly wild experience.

There was some amount of habitual conditioning present in the animal tho, and it took some doing to shoo it off the porch and in to the garden where I felt the exiting bullet would not damage anything of any importance.

I used softs only though I have a box of solids. Reading the posts here on the big cats I felt I was in pretty good stead with softs only.

As it turned out, the +P 125 JHP stopped the cat immediately but no exit could be found so I am questioning the penetration of this particular load. I admit I broke a self-imposed rule of never firing a round of ammo till I have tested the same type in my media or on carcasses of the same type of critter.

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Sarg
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Re: would you?? [Re: 9.3x57]
      #141487 - 02/09/09 10:27 PM

Hell ! I got it the wrong way around & cut off a Wild Cat that was in my house pissing up the joint , killed it by hand only , caught him in my arms / chest as he sprang for the door, I do NOT advise this to any one , there was a LOT of blood , piss , shit & a little of it was the cats !

Nearly lost a finger in the fight , my hats off to those Leopard hand to claw fighting guys ! !

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500Nitro
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Re: would you?? [Re: Sarg]
      #141488 - 02/09/09 11:37 PM


LOL, and all this on a Double rifle forum.

I think we need one of those light weight, quick handling
22 calibre Double rifles so we can do a double tap on these bloody cats !!!


The last cat I shot we caught eating a Parrot, so we let it finish it's meal then when it had finished, it was like a cheshire cat, licking it's lips etc etc, just like in the cartoons.

That was until it got hit with a 180gn Woodleigh out of a 30.06 which certainly wiped the smile from it's face.

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ChrisPer
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Re: would you?? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #141489 - 03/09/09 12:06 AM

Wiped the smile from its face?

I remember with pride a night shot over a creek, through some trees at a pair of green eyes appearing over a log... paced afterward at about 120m - the 45gr Hornet projie must have hit the tip of the nose square on, because what was left? That raspy tongue and everything south of that.

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500Nitro
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Re: would you?? [Re: ChrisPer]
      #141491 - 03/09/09 12:16 AM


It's intersting isn't it, their is something satisfying about blowing the living crap out of a piece of vermin, be it a fox, cat et al.

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ChrisPer
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Re: would you?? [Re: ChrisPer]
      #141492 - 03/09/09 12:16 AM

Excuse me boasting about Puss in a thread that started with Lion - my Lion Rifle hasn't bagged any at all.

Yet.

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ChrisPer
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Re: would you?? [Re: ChrisPer]
      #141493 - 03/09/09 12:25 AM

Yes, VERY satisfying.

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cooch
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Re: would you?? [Re: Sarg]
      #141494 - 03/09/09 12:31 AM

Quote:

Hell ! I got it the wrong way around & cut off a Wild Cat that was in my house pissing up the joint , killed it by hand only , caught him in my arms / chest as he sprang for the door, I do NOT advise this to any one , there was a LOT of blood , piss , shit & a little of it was the cats !

Nearly lost a finger in the fight , my hats off to those Leopard hand to claw fighting guys ! !



With all due sympathy, it sounds like your technique could do with a little refining.

One the couple of occasions that I've attempted feral-moggicide (is that the right term?) bare handed, I've found the following helps.
(1) Grasp the nettle FIRMLY. You WILL get claws - and possibly teeth - through your tender pink hide, so the tactic is to minimise repeated raking. Do not muck about trying to get the perfect grip, but wrap two big hands around as much of the cat as possible (one around the neck is good) and shut down as hard as you can. The aim is to minimise the cat's ability to move.
(2) Using knees or any other suitable part of your anatomy, apply as much weight as possible to any part of the cat not already being held in your best immitation of a vice-like grip.
(3) Cats are tough. Don't bother trying to break its neck with some exotic brand of Kung Fu.... 50+ kilos of pressure via one of the afore-mentioned knees on the rib-cage will induce a very satisfactory state of suffocation in a few minutes, and at far less risk than trying anything more complicated. With foxes, I take them by the back legs and beat their head against the nearest solid object. Much quicker, but foxes lack a cat's ability to reinsert claws faster than you can pry them out. .

Pry the claws out of your extremities after the cat is dead. Very dead.

Gloves are better.

Shotguns are best of all.

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iqbal
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Re: would you?? [Re: Bramble]
      #141496 - 03/09/09 01:44 AM

I for one would never kill a cat.They are to cute and beautiful a creature to shoot or kill.But then its my personal opinion.

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Bramble
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Re: would you?? [Re: iqbal]
      #141497 - 03/09/09 02:04 AM

Nor I Iqbal, the best friend I had though my divorce was my cat.

I shall stear clear of gentle sarcastic humour in the future and resort to blatent offensivness.

ALL FUCKING LIONS IN S AFRICA ARE CANNED, THEY ARE HUMANISED, IT IS LIKE SHOOTING SOMEBODYS PET.

There, I feel better now.

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500Nitro
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Re: would you?? [Re: Bramble]
      #141498 - 03/09/09 03:34 AM

Well, let me as you this. In my neighbourhood, we had a big Tom move in and start fighting all the other cats, running over the roof etc and generally being a PITA.

Now I tolerate the neighbours cats - just - so went around and asked if it was one of theirs, the answer was no, it wasn't and no one else claimed it but they all agreed with
me in that it had upset the balance of life in this once Quiet neighbourhood.

Now of course we all have 6ft fences, did this make it a canned hunt ? It lasted over 2 weeks !!!

Edited by 500Nitro (03/09/09 03:34 AM)

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Mike_Bailey
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Re: would you?? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #141500 - 03/09/09 04:04 AM

Iqbal, I have a number of the b****ards roaming around my garden but unfortunately I don't know
which are the neighbours otherwise they would all have met their makers. I detest them, best, Mike

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500grains
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Re: would you?? [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #141501 - 03/09/09 06:02 AM

I don't have a problem with the hunt, although it is not the most appealing hunting opportunity that I can find. However, there may be a fellow with mobility problems, deteriorating health, and a desire to hunt a cat, and this may fit him just right.

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tophet1
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Re: would you?? [Re: 500grains]
      #141503 - 03/09/09 07:06 AM

500 grains has a valid point if the hunt was acceptable to a disabled hunter. I could not hunt a lion in South Africa.

I would submit that hunting 15,000 acres of Bushveldt on foot would not be that easy. As 9.3 has indicated, the behavioural conditioning of the animal would make it a canned hunt, not necessarily that sized area.

The idea of possibly taking more than one lion in the advert as posted absolutely stinks.

Bramble, has your recent success in the ashes prompted the mention of a cricket bat ? The use of a cricket bat must be the genteel english method. Here in Oz we would just grab the nearest Waddy Stick and wail the c#@p out of the offending animal. Crude I'll admit, yet effective ... and strangely satisfying if not quite the Tarzan approach of our Kiwi colleague Sarg.

Edited by tophet1 (03/09/09 07:38 AM)

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Re: would you?? [Re: tophet1]
      #141506 - 03/09/09 08:09 AM

Time for my cat story... I remember back when I was a teenager, we had a pesky feline that kept getting into our trash cans every day and garbage would be strewn all over the yard. So, after this went on for a couple of weeks, I set my bow and arrow out on the side of the house as I left for school. When I came home, I grabbed my bow and sneaked around the house to see the mangy beast rooting around in the trash. I drew my bow an put an arrow right into its chest. As the cat rolled around with the arrow in it, I ran up and stepped on the animal and pulled my arrow out. As soon as I took my foot off of it, that darn cat bolted out of there! A couple of days later I found the cat in the gutter under our driveway. I cornered it and picked it up - and there wasn't even a scratch on it! No blood - nothing! It was the weirdest thing... do not tell me that cats don't have 9 lives - I witnessed it for myself! (by the way, our trash remained undisturbed from that time forward...)

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500Nitro
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Re: would you?? [Re: crkennedy1]
      #141507 - 03/09/09 08:13 AM


Good one crkennedy !

So he only had 8 lives left but would never use them !!!

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Bramble
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Re: would you?? [Re: tophet1]
      #141511 - 03/09/09 11:52 AM

Quote:


Bramble, has your recent success in the ashes prompted the mention of a cricket bat ?




Would I rub salt in the wound.

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500Nitro
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Re: would you?? [Re: Bramble]
      #141512 - 03/09/09 11:56 AM

Quote:

Quote:


Bramble, has your recent success in the ashes prompted the mention of a cricket bat ?




Would I rub salt in the wound.




When it comes to Australia and cricket, YES, as payback
for all the times in the last 20 years when we did it to you !!!

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