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bonanza
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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: DuggaBoy]
      #134506 - 05/05/09 08:24 AM

By saying BIG GAME, that drives the result heavily towards the .338 or .375

Now for all **NA** game, one needs only two rifles: 6.5mm (your choice) and .375 H&H.

The 6.5mm can take anything from varmints (100 Hornady) to Elk (160 Woodleigh), the .375 speaks for itself.

NOTE:

This year I'm going to developed a true reduced .375 H&H load. I want something that approximates a 30-06 for deer hunting. Stay tuned.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: MKresinske]
      #136586 - 02/06/09 11:57 PM

Howa is marketing a rifle in .375 Ruger now.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: Plains99]
      #136611 - 03/06/09 08:29 AM

338 Win mag its just a reliabe killer, it will smash a massive bruin or the biggest elk.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: JAWZ]
      #136751 - 05/06/09 10:04 AM

my 300 wby has dropped 1/2 of all american big game coupled with a barnes 180 none have gone more than 20 yards that included the 9'mountain grizzly.shock kills not just the size of the hole you also need speed.i like any 30 caliber they will work have worked and will keep on working

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: bonanza]
      #136761 - 05/06/09 01:20 PM

Quote:

This year I'm going to developed a true reduced .375 H&H load. I want something that approximates a 30-06 for deer hunting. Stay tuned.



Gotta dandy;

220 Hornady FP at 2400 fps.

For a flatter shooting variety, the 225 Horny Spire Point.

Accurate 5744 powder for a .30-06 duplicate and very light recoil.

BTW: Agree 100% on the 6.5 component to the equation, too!

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: bonanza]
      #136776 - 05/06/09 07:01 PM

Quote:

Now for all **NA** game, one needs only two rifles: 6.5mm (your choice) and .375 H&H.


You said it!

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #136781 - 05/06/09 10:00 PM

Maybe 270 (110 to 160 pills)and 404 Jeff(with 300 to 400 grain pills)

If only a single cal then 404 Jeff.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #136793 - 06/06/09 03:46 AM


If only a single cal then 404 Jeff. [/quote

A good choice! But the 404 Jeffery is not a American caliber!

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: grandveneur]
      #136823 - 06/06/09 11:19 AM

I took it to mean for American game not the obverse.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #136834 - 06/06/09 01:46 PM

Due to the capitols used in the title, it means calibre for for NA game.

Hard to beat any of the 9.3's or a little .375. I could easily hunt all BIG game in NA with these, but demand a second rifle in .17AckHornet for rodent practise.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: DarylS]
      #136840 - 06/06/09 04:03 PM



but demand a second rifle in .17AckHornet for rodent practise.



If you select a good shooting angle, you can use your 404 Jeffery!

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: grandveneur]
      #136849 - 06/06/09 10:30 PM

I chose the .300 Win. Mag., but could just as easily have picked the 30-06. I shoot the 06 more than any other caliber except the 45-70, which is too slow for long range hunting of all American big game.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: Birdhunter50]
      #138760 - 10/07/09 01:57 PM

I use a 1895 cowboy in 45-70 handloaded to aprox 450 marlin for everything, despite it's 26" barrel it handels now as well as a 30-30 which i have 2 ,have a browning lever in 243, 300 mag and 22lr and I like them all. But when I head out it's always the one that gets put in the jeep. Excepting it's limitations, which now is out to 200yds has made me a better hunter, which mades it more fun still.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #138789 - 11/07/09 02:32 AM

For the one rifle and ALL NA game, for practicle sense, I picked the .375 H+H. It is more than adequate for any NA game when you include the big bears and BIG moose like in Canada. The trajectory is impressive compared to most any other selection. Bullet choice in good in factory loads and the most important is the ability to find the ammo most anywhere you can buy ammo. Otherwise, I would be in the range of the 9.3x62. Usually lighter rifles, but with plenty of power and penetration for any NA game with the right bullet. If you exclude Big brown bears and Polar bear (though many have been taken with less powerful cartridges), then I would be in agreement with Daryl and 9.3 with the 9.3x62, 9.3x57 and the I would include the 8x57 in proper loadings. The issues are of finding and buying a particular caliber cartridge when I can't bring my own is a concern for me.
Having said that, I would love the challenge of using my original .45-70 Rem. Rolling Block to do the same. i just received a new batch of .460 dia 500 grain RN cast bullets that I will load and test in the .45-70 and the .577/.450.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #139376 - 23/07/09 06:15 AM

if you take brown bear off the list... 30-06 hands down... so versatile...

gotta have the 375 for the big bears though.

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Re: Best American BIG GAME CALIBER!! [Re: DuggaBoy]
      #139415 - 23/07/09 10:39 PM

North American Experience = Nil.

However I'm going with the .375H&H.

I don't care what's popular, on the basis that more people bought VW Beetles than either Rolls Royce or Ferrari. Doesn't mean that Beetles are a better car, just a more economical one.

The .375 is big enough to be a good choice on any of the bigger critters, even under less-than-ideal circumstances, while not being too big for any of the medium game. Nor is it too heavy to carry to too hard in the recoil for any healthy adult who is prepared to keep themselves fit and learn to shoot it well.

Plus, I like it.

Peter

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