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eagle27
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Re: Question on the Trigger Sequence in a Double [Re: 400NitroExpress]
#139131 - 17/07/09 04:34 PM

"I think I will avoid the brown stains and stick to single triggers".

I probably should have clarified this quip in that I use a Mauser DG rifle so only have a single trigger to work with, and it is a replacement Timney instead of the double stage original at that.
I would be quite happy using double triggers on a DR.

In the event of a misfire with inertial set triggers, a quick shunt on the butt sets the second lock and is probably quicker than reloading a bolt gun after a misfire(for me anyway as a southpaw) or breaking open the DR to replace the misfired cartridge. Just would have to hope there wasn't a tonne or so of buffalo trying to beat the reset.

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Paul
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Re: Question on the Trigger Sequence in a Double [Re: eagle27]
#139137 - 17/07/09 06:54 PM

The problem I see with resetting single triggers, as with shortstroked bolt-actions, is the possible shock of it stopping the shooter from thinking quickly or straight. Although I have handled shortstrokes OK when shooting at deer, I'm not sure I would if a lion were galloping towards me. From this point of view, I'd prefer to hunt dangerous game with a reliable, well cleaned semi-auto than a bolt-action rifle, if legal.

That's heresy, I know, but the mechanism has no nerves. As long as it is clean it is probably less likely to malfunction than a skittish shooter.

By analogy, I'd rather trust whatever complications may be in a 'mechanical' single trigger than hope to tap the butt or reset a selector when TSHTF.

- Paul

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500Nitro
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Re: Question on the Trigger Sequence in a Double [Re: Paul]
#139138 - 17/07/09 06:58 PM

Paul

How come you short stroke a bolt gun ?

Sounds like you need a bit of practice under pressure,
it's the only way to overcome it.

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Paul
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Re: Question on the Trigger Sequence in a Double [Re: 500Nitro]
#139140 - 17/07/09 08:24 PM

It's happened to me just twice in 35 years, Nigel, no big deal at the time but a warning of what can happen when excited. The second time, about 26 years ago, might have been explained by my having a new magnum-length Sako, after using only a Mauser previously. It's nothing that an elephant culler would do more than once but, when you only have one hunt to get something good (or be got), I'd rather use a double.

But if you're starting a shooting school (in addition to the mooted commercial loading venture), let me know, I might come along.

- Paul

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500Nitro
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Re: Question on the Trigger Sequence in a Double [Re: Paul]
#139141 - 17/07/09 09:27 PM

Paul

Sorry, it sounded like it was a common problem.

In any case, short stroking a bolt action is
a user problem caused by not enough practice.
Just my HO.

Shooting school - not me thanks, prefer to go hunting.

"commercial loading venture" ?????
Would love to know about that.

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RLI
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Re: Question on the Trigger Sequence in a Double [Re: 500Nitro]
#139171 - 18/07/09 12:03 PM

I found this link from Merkel and if you scroll to double rifles it says you can double discharge a rifle in certain circumstances, this may clarify why Merkels double discharge how ever I have never heard of or seen this occur.

Steve

http://www.gsifirearms.com/gsif/m-sidebyside-man.pdf

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Paul
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Re: Question on the Trigger Sequence in a Double [Re: RLI]
#139197 - 18/07/09 07:47 PM

Nigel, the commercial loading venture came from your offering to do some
.450/.400 reloads for me for $149 a packet, probably as a joke.

Actually, having fired the first packet, I might be interested if you had some Woodleigh softpoints and knew the Hornady load. I took the rifles for Africa out today and everything went well. Shooting off some dowelling sticks I was able to put both barrels of the Heym within about 1.2 inches of each other at 50 yards, in a pattern seen earlier.

It seems to shoot about three inches higher from a rest but right on the top of the bead off-hand, possibly because the heavy triggers pull it down - at least I've noticed that when dry-firing.

Cheers
- Paul

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