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tarawa
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Siace Paradox
#131805 - 08/04/09 09:27 PM

While looking at Siace's website I noticed that they offer a double shotgun with rifled barrels in 12 and 20 guage. I was wondering if it would be regulated somewhat?

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JPK
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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: tarawa]
#138686 - 09/07/09 03:46 AM

I took a look and couldn't find the reference to rifled 12 or 20 bores. Can you point me in the right direction?

Several years ago, I asked Dewing's gunshop in West Palm Beach, Florida to ask if Siace would make a rifled shotgun. The answer was yes, but they would need a minimum of ten orders to do it. I didn't follow up, but did ask Dewing's the following year and got the same answer.

Dewing's told me Siace would regulate the guns with whatever ammo I specified.

Maybe they went ahead and did the guns? BTW, Dewings closed their doors a couple of months ago.

I ended up ordering the Conneticutt Shotgun RBL rifled 20ga.

JPK

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tarawa
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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: JPK]
#139216 - 19/07/09 05:57 AM

Dewings is re-opening under a new name and management. I believe one of the previous owners is involved.
See what is on page 10 of the online Siace Catalogue. You can try the link below or go to there home page and click on the "production" tab.

http://www.siacearmi.com/images/siace.pdf

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JPK
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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: tarawa]
#139602 - 27/07/09 03:01 AM

Tarawa,

Thanks! I found the info in your link.

Very interesting.

A 12ga with a pair of rifled barrels and a pair of smooth bore barrels would cover a whole lot of shooting here.

Under what name is DeWings re-opening? Same location?

JPK

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rigbymauser
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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: JPK]
#139605 - 27/07/09 05:59 AM

I will run them an e-mail...asking them a few interesting questions

I`LL post reply here.

j

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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: rigbymauser]
#139606 - 27/07/09 06:27 AM

This is what I asked them:

I see you have 12gauge paradox rifled guns on your homepage. Are these rifled and regulated for the traditional 750grain slug at 1400Ft/sec??

Sincerely jens

lets see what they reply

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rigbymauser
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Reply from Siace [Re: rigbymauser]
#139778 - 30/07/09 02:02 AM

29. juli 2009 11.56
Fra: "Siace Armi" <siace@siacearmi.com>Føj afsender til KontakterTil: rigbymauser@yahoo.dkMr. Poulsen,

Thank you for your enquiry.

We inform you that our 12 GA paradox barrels are fully rifled and regulated at 30 mt with BORNAGHI SLUG ammunition 1 1/8 Oz.

Do not hesitate to contact us for any further information.

Best reagrds,

Dr.ssa Veronica Gelmini
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P.o. Box 97
25063 Gardone V.T. (Bs)
Tel +39 030 8912613
Fax +39 030 8911518
Skype: siacearmi
http://www.siacearmi.com

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Re: Reply from Siace [Re: rigbymauser]
#139782 - 30/07/09 05:59 AM

Why do they call them Paradox Barrels if they are fully rifled ?

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Re: Reply from Siace [Re: 500Nitro]
#139785 - 30/07/09 08:11 AM

ESL (English as a Second Language)

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Re: Reply from Siace [Re: kamilaroi]
#139787 - 30/07/09 08:33 AM

I don't class ESL as a reasonable excuse.

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tarawa
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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: JPK]
#140369 - 11/08/09 11:53 AM

Sorry it took me so long to answer, but this was in the Palm Beach Putz. Left Wing Mayor, Lois Frankel was trying to block it by changing the zoning laws.

"The store arrives on the scene after the bankruptcy filing and closing of another downtown sporting goods retailer, Dewing's Fly & Gun Shop, at 123 Datura St. On April 1, Dewing's moved to liquidate through a Chapter 7 filing that listed $6.8 million in debt and $172,000 in assets. The store's manager for the past seven years, Michael D. Burnett, is now president of Palm Beach Sporting Traditions LLC."

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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: tarawa]
#140392 - 11/08/09 02:58 PM

How can a small sporting shop rack up that kind of debt? Seems an astronomical amount!

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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: tarawa]
#140394 - 11/08/09 03:06 PM

Sheeeit-

Quote:

Sorry it took me so long to answer, but this was in the Palm Beach Putz. Left Wing Mayor, Lois Frankel was trying to block it by changing the zoning laws.

"The store arrives on the scene after the bankruptcy filing and closing of another downtown sporting goods retailer, Dewing's Fly & Gun Shop, at 123 Datura St. On April 1, Dewing's moved to liquidate through a Chapter 7 filing that listed $6.8 million in debt and $172,000 in assets. The store's manager for the past seven years, Michael D. Burnett, is now president of Palm Beach Sporting Traditions LLC."

I'd love to see the carpet that guy's riding away on!
Nearly seven million in loss with less than two hundred grand to show.
Makes a guy wonder if 'antiques' are counted on the records of a FFL firearms dealer.
I can imagine six or so million in 'antique crap' I'd like to shelter in such a fiasco.

Wowza!

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JPK
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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: tarawa]
#140524 - 13/08/09 03:20 PM

Quote:

Sorry it took me so long to answer, but this was in the Palm Beach Putz. Left Wing Mayor, Lois Frankel was trying to block it by changing the zoning laws.

"The store arrives on the scene after the bankruptcy filing and closing of another downtown sporting goods retailer, Dewing's Fly & Gun Shop, at 123 Datura St. On April 1, Dewing's moved to liquidate through a Chapter 7 filing that listed $6.8 million in debt and $172,000 in assets. The store's manager for the past seven years, Michael D. Burnett, is now president of Palm Beach Sporting Traditions LLC."

Thanks!

JPK

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Re: Siace Paradox [Re: tarawa]
#140525 - 13/08/09 04:10 PM

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Dewing's Fly & Gun Shop, at 123 Datura St.

Datura St. eh?
Maybe they simply hallucinated that there was over $6mil in debt!

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Edited by Huvius (13/08/09 04:11 PM)

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